Chomper Higgot

Get used to it, Brexit promises are being revealed as lies, you will be hearing a lot more of it.

Or so you allege.

While the UK Government struggles to reverse the damage done to the UK economy by the UK Government, the pesky French steal the ‘Golden Goose’: Paris has just past London as the largest European stock exchange: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/stocks/london-loses-its-status-as-biggest-european-stock-market-to-paris They didn’t even say s'il vous plait or merci.

Did it mention ‘sunlit uplands’ and when they might show up?

Oh, so now expats aren’t allowed an opinion on the matter. Makes me wonder why you joined an expat forum then started discussing stuff you think expats shouldn’t be allowed an opinion on.

I hope the OP is ready for the ever increasing public discussion on the failings of Brexit. There is nothing more dangerous in politics than promising ‘sunlit uplands’ then failing to deliver. My prediction is the coming months will see an ever increasing criticism of Brexit, in the press, on TV and in politics. The lipstick has been wiped off the pig.

Well yes, Brexit at its finest. Pointless.

I don’t think ‘we’ did anything of the sort. Some very clever people who undoubtedly included a number of foreigners did some very clever stuff using scientific advances made by other very clever people who undoubtedly a very large number of foreigners. Brexit cutting the UK out of EU scientific research programs isn’t going to help a repeat performance should the need arise.

I spent a couple of decades working around the ‘planet I’m on’ for a UK based company on multi $million/multi billion projects. Nobody told me or my employers that the EU didn’t allow such behaviour. Brickies in a Cricklewood might have a different view.

Did I say they were? Brexit funded by hedgefund manager who made millions by betting against the UK.

That’s not what anyone is saying. What I and others are saying is the Brexiteers made statements during the run up to the referendum that loss of trade privileges with the EU (the world’s largest free trade market) would be compensated by new trade deals, the jewel of which would be an FTA with the US. Brexiteers are now denying this, despite their anger when, after the vote, Obama told the UK it was at the back of the queue for an FTA. The Brexiteer self delusion of a UK/US FTA being possible continued until a lettuce eventually told the truth.

I take it you read Polish, which is quite an achievement, well done.

There was no EU rule, regulation or law preventing the UK taking the vaccine decisions it took.

I’m not a Brexiteer, I don’t believe in unicorns and I’m not taken in by a donkey with an upturned Cornetto on its head.

And there you have it.

Still waiting for those tangible Brexit benefits? Rees-Mogg couldn’t find them, can anyone here do better?

No. But the EU is the world’s largest free trade area, it doesn’t need a free trade agreement with the US, it’s large enough to do without it. The UK on the other hand has withdrawn from the largest free trade agreement, replaced it with tariffs, taxes and bureaucracy and the UK economy is now suffering as a consequence. It was Brexiteers who were claiming a US trade deal would fill the gap left by the madness that is Brexit.

Until you look at the details: ” Most recently it signed a deal with New Zealandon 28 February 2022. New Zealand is a small trading partner, accounting for less than 0.2% of total UK trade” ” Before Brexit, the UK was automatically part of any trade deal the EU had negotiated with another country. At the time the UK left, the EU had about 40 trade deals covering more than 70 countries. The UK government says it has secured rollover deals with 69 of the original countries.” More Brexit smoke and mirrors.

Show me a country that destroys its most significant trading partnership in a bid to end illegal immigration (your claim that was a motivation) and then fails miserably to do so.

Of course, the ‘It’s always somebody else’s fault’ defense. No, it won’t wash. Nobody was forcing Brexiteers to make statements on nations queuing up to make trade deals with the UK post Brexit. A trade deal with the US was central to Brexiteer hopes for those sunlit uplands. Nothing at all to do with ‘Remainers’.

So are you going to claim Brexit stopped illegal immigration?

So why did Brexiteers make all those promises about easy trade deals as a benefit of Brexit? https://www.politico.eu/article/15-things-uk-vote-leave-promised-on-brexit-and-what-it-got/

So why did Brexiteers make all those promises about easy trade deals as a benefit of Brexit?

I think this has been tried before, it goes by the name of ‘The Year Zero Option’ or in Brexit parlance as ‘You can eat whatever you want so long as it’s turnips’.

It seems everyone knew except the Brexiteers who where claiming it as a Brexit benefit.