Chomper Higgot

As I stated, the UK were denying the leaked information.

One sides ‘porkies’ are damaging the economy, and it’s not ‘Remain’s’.

I think some would, but I think many would not. Regardless, they have no say in the matter, they’ve handed power to the ERG and the ERG aren’t interested in anything short of zero connection to the EU.

During the run up to the referendum ‘Brexit leaders’ repeatedly made public statements in which they stated a post Brexit UK would get a favorable deal with the EU; Norway Deal, Swiss-Deal, Canadian Deal etc That is what the electorate was told. It was a lie. It was called out as a lie by ‘Remain’ leaders. And here the UK is with its economy hampered by self inflicted trade barriers with its largest trading partner.

The polls are repeatedly returning results indicating the collapse of support for Brexit and growing support for rejoining the EU. So let’s run with this ‘will of the people’ thing. Since you mentioned Farage, I’ll remind you what he had to say: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way.”

Boris Johnson was a hardcore Brexiteer, he promised an ‘Oven Ready Deal’. Now if you are accepting that the Brexit leaders were lying to you then yes, I agree, I said so before the referendum and right through to Brexit actually happening. And here’s the best bit, they are lying to you now.

You got your BREXIT, it’s not working out as you hoped and you now resort to the latest version of: ”It’s always somebody else’s fault”.

Why do you miss out BREXIT I wonder?

Oh, so the weather is a ‘Constant’ weight of passengers is a ‘Constant’ weight of ‘luggage is a constant’, unplanned changes to routes are a ‘constant’? No ‘sunlit uplands’ is becoming a constant.

There’s a difference. Starmer has rules out a Swiss-Style deal if elected. The Government are responding to leaks that they are seeking a Swiss-Style deal

But the UK is struggling more than other countries, Germany’s economy has already recovered to post Pandemic levels, the UK’s economy has not.

You perhaps need to qualify that statement given every other nation in the G7 except the UK has recovered its level of economic activity to pre-pandemic levels, something the UK has failed to do. Your pro-Putin misinformation is noted.

To within a stated degree of confidence. Likewise aircraft fuel loads are based on a prediction of consumption for the flight, a bit of a problem for those who need to occasionally fly but struggle with an aversion to predictions. It is of course not the predictions that bother Brexiteers, it’s the fact BREXIT is failing and voters can see BREXIT is failing. Not a ‘sunlit upland’ in sight.

Yes, it was a prediction made by Brexiteers.

OK, so we are agreed, the impact of the three events COVID + WAR + BREXIT are mixed and it is difficult to determine the individual impact of each. However, as time passes the impact of COVID is receding. Likewise the impact of the war. What remains is BREXIT. Hence as the impacts of COVID + the WAR recede, the impacts of BREXIT will become more apparent. This process is already underway and will continue. We also already see people from within the BREXIT campaign speaking out against BREXIT. Public opinion polls are continuing to shift against BREXIT. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has clearly stated ‘unfettered trade with the UK’s nearest neighbours would be good for economic growth’. After that statement the Government has had to go on the defensive to deny leaks of seeking a ‘Swiss-Style Trade Agreement’ with the EU. And all the while the absolute certainty the 65+ demographic group that provided voter support for BREXIT is dying off. https://www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/ And let’s not forget that failed BREXIT forecast. Not a ‘sunny upland’ in sight.

You are lucky, you don’t seem to have an IP address.

Has Trump appointed a Campaign Manager yet?

I suggest you refer to the top of the thread where you’ll find a very clear indication of what is the topic of discussion.

How about you try addressing the present. “Why is the UK struggling more than other countries?” COVID + WAR + BREXIT = Outcome ? I know you don’t like the answer but don’t expect the rest of us to ignore the outcome just because you don’t like the answer.

The economic impact on the UK economy can’t be hidden, as COVID and the war in Ukraine fade into the past, the reality of Brexit damage will become more apparent. Time is not on the side of Brexit and the clock is ticking.

Now it’s you who is looking into the crystal ball. How strange is that?!

Do you have any comments on the subject under discussion?

It’s probably best if you stop implying other members are racists just because they make the factual observation that the UK is having to import Filipino Butchers to replace EU National Butchers after Brexit.

BREXIT has resulted in UK trade barriers between the UK and its largest trading partner. There is no need to have a crystal ball to see trade barrier will negatively impact the economy. Numerous examples of this are already being reported and referenced within this thread.

Wait on there. I’ve stated actual Tory sleaze, you’ve come back with some imagined behaviour of Labour. One is based in fact, the other just dreamed up nonsense.