Chomper Higgot

And yet you never offered any verifiable evidence, just the ‘testimony’ of ‘former miner friends’ that supports your views. We should perhaps put this down to serendipity.

Renewables provide 43% of UK energy requirements. https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/how-much-uks-energy-renewable

I don’t know anyone who thinks solar and wind power are the only way forward.

No, it was to do with breaking the unions. Working people in the UK have paid the price ever since. Wages lagging the cost of living, final salary pensions stripped away, workers rights decimated and the birth of the gig economy. The inflection point was 1979.

Hogwash. Arthur Scargill was very clear in his arguments, that the then Tory Government wanted to close the UK mines, throw UK miners out of work an import cheap coal from Poland. He was right, that is exactly what the Thatcher Government did.

Whenever I hear people quoting percentages without providing data to back it up, I file under nonsense.

You are missing something. Discussing a criminal act or even planning a criminal act is not illegal up and until any member in the discussion takes any action towards committing the crime. At that moment the crime of conspiracy to commit crime comes into play. I look forward to the court ruling.

Was that before or after they got rid of the smog?

You are barking up the wrong tree:

Excellent News. Well done President Biden.

Releasing convicts and giving them guns. That must have been a second bottle idea.

Modern homes rarely have fire places.

‘Sedition’

I have no idea if that’s even true, but don’t let that stop you, go on, tell us.

From the article: “It [National Grid] will also launch a scheme from 1 November which incentivises businesses and households to reduce their electricity use at key times:” Are National Grid referring to the electricity millions of people in the UK can’t afford to use? With the increase in prices this year I suspect per capita electricity use to be very much lower through the coming winter than it was the last.

Put the evidence before a Grand Jury, if they hand down an indictment, send it to court. Nobody is above the law.

As a Liberal I’m struggling with the concept of ‘Republican excess deaths’. If the Republicans believe encouraging their supporters to follow a course of action/inaction that results, by means of Darwinian selection, in a reduction of their own voter base why would any Liberal waste headspace worrying about it.

I can think of one former President who’s words we should not take seriously, on account of his recorded habit of constantly lying. You just referenced him.

It depends where you looked. Heseltine had a very good Conference this year. His side meeting to discuss the problems with Brexit and rejoining the EU was mobbed out, standing room only for scores of Conference Delegates and Industry Representatives.

Clearly some will not be convinced no matter what the evidence. Refer a couple of examples above.

My post to which you have responded was a statement of observable fact, I said absolutely nothing about how immigrants or their children should think. However you do make a very valid point. Making assumptions on how immigrants, or indeed the children of immigrants should think is indeed an example of racist thinking This is especially so when adopting or disseminating gross pejorative generalizations of how you believe immigrants think. An example might be ‘Immigrants only come to the UK to sponge off the welfare state/for free housing/benefits etc’ We frequently see some members making this form of gross pejorative assumptions on the thinking of immigrants, often receiving multiple positive responses from other members. Another example is ‘an immigrant/asylum seeker should feel safe and should stay in (some other country than the UK)’ I can think of few more definite examples of an individual’s thoughts than how they feel about their own safety. And yet we frequently see posts from some members stating how immigrants should feel about where they should feel safe - and oddly such posts get positive reactions from the self same members. I’m with you in this JohnnyF, making assumptions on how immigrants and asylum seekers think or should think, especially when backed by grossly pejorative assumptions is racist.

Sorry that will not do. I did not mention her colour. Let it go.

I don’t think I mentioned her colour.

Are Labour the topic of discussion already?

Whataboutary