Chomper Higgot

We need to make another distinction. The threat to the UK’s farming industry created by the UK’s surrender trade deals with NZ and Australia does not arise from labour costs, it’s a direct result of UK farm production being undercut. Both the UK building industry and Farming have long term labour problems, Brexit has made those problems worse. The UK already has labour shortages across all sectors and a Government which is actively seeking to suppress wage increases. End result, fewer workers, less production, lower productivity, lower GDP added to the already present recession.

We need to make a distinction. Building trade workers may be pleased to face less competition (30-40%??), Building companies not so as they are unable to find workers for their businesses. Meanwhile, the Government bent over to get trade deals with NZ and Australia, surrendering UK economy interests for a short term political gain of being able to announce ‘trade deals signed’. Both of these trade deals throw the UK’s farming industry under the bus. So a few happy Brickies, the building industry struggling to find workers and a real threat to the UK’s strategically important farming industry. You’ll find predictions of the year post Brexit trade deals to the farming industry filed under ‘Project Fear, sub folder Food Security’.

The problem is, you’ve chosen an extremely narrow example. Once you have broadened the ‘immigrants contributing’ to the ‘immigrants contributing’ your whole argument falls apart.

Clearly immigrants are contributing to far more than just the medical profession. You couldn’t get even that but right.

Added to which there was nothing at all stopping the UK trading with any nation that the EU did not have a trade agreement with. The US being an example, there are very many more. Membership of the EU did not prevent the UK from trading with the rest of the world.

Odd then that so many British businesses have been trading, and operating around the world while the UK was a member of the EU.

Tell me again how he’s running for President. He’s doing no such thing, he’s grifting the far rightwing and racists in his base while onboarding them for the stochastic terrorism he engages in.

Of course Australia are please, they gave almost zero and got everything they asked for. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-63627801

Meanwhile the US and India are following Australia’s lead and sticking it to the needy UK.

Agreed. There is the logical way and the emotional way. One is driven by what is logically best for the economy the other by a fondness of post war black and white movies.

You should perhaps avoid discussion forums where all members are permitted to discuss all topics open for discussion regardless of their own personal location or nationality.

That’s the problem with being desperate for any kind of trade deal, having voluntarily dumped the best deal on the planet.

Always somebody else’s fault, always somebody else’s bill. Except it’s not.

Oddly you once again omit Brexit.

Ah the unicorns grazing in sunlit uplands.

The UK always had access to the rest of the world while a member of the EU.

Funding is set by Westminster and distributed according to the Barnett Formula. NHS Wales is, like all UK NHS, underfunded. However tens of millions of pounds is available for direction through the NHS to Government Chums.

Undermining the struggle of working people to obtain a fair wage and working conditions. Makes me wonder who the enemy is.

Of relevant interest: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/09/uk-passport-delays-affected-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-this-year

Somebody is telling you porkies.

“British exports now face full EU customs and sanitary checks that increase costs and delays, making low-margin products unprofitable.” Well, yes. The UK left the EU and is subject to ‘Third Nation’ regulations when trading with the EU. This was always going to be the case, it was clearly stated by the EU and it was repeatedly stated by the Remain Campaign, you’ll find it filed under ‘Project Fear’. The Leave Campaign made baseless claims that post Brexit the UK could have favorable trade with the EU, you’ll find those filed under ‘Project Unicorn’, sub-folder ‘Cake’. https://www.politico.eu/article/15-things-uk-vote-leave-promised-on-brexit-and-what-it-got/

Democracy is a continuous process, the Brexit Referendum did not end the right of the growing number of people who believe Brexit to be a mistake from campaigning to have Brexit reversed.

More sensible people knew it was a crock from the start. There is absolutely no way the UK could erect trade barriers against itself with its nearest and most important trading partner and not suffer negative economic consequences. The damage will continue while the UK remains outside EU Free Trade. There is no ‘jam tomorrow’ there are no ‘Sun-lit uplands’.

That’s absolutely correct, the UK population lead down the path into a Brexit that benefits the Hedge Fund Managers who financially backed Brexit while placing bets against the UK. Ker-Ching!

It hasn’t failed.