Chomper Higgot

I don’t think there is any ‘maybe’ about it. Russia is a kleptocracy, why shouldn’t the Russian military budgets be rife with corruption and theft?!

It’s not for me to address Russian claims, it’s for Russia to back them up. Russia was invited to The Hague to present the evidence to back up the claimed reasons for the invasion, Russia was a no show. https://www.reuters.com/article/crisis-ukraine-world-court-russia/russia-fails-to-appear-at-world-court-in-case-brought-by-ukraine-idUKA5N2US010

It’s a good offer. And humane too. Not like ‘surrender or we’ll murder your whole population’. But even that has its backers, sad to say.

They’ve already lost, unless strengthening NATO, isolating their economy, isolating their nation, gutting their stock market, tanking their currency and humiliating their military were their desired objectives of this illegal and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation.

So Ukraine has offered the equivalent of Rubles5,000,000 and an amnesty to any Russian soldier who surrenders, they only need say ‘Million’ when they do so. This to my mind is a great idea. Poorly trained, I’ll equipped conscripts given the chance to get out of a war they want no part in.

So let’s take Putin at his word ‘safe passage’ and ‘I will not invade’.

It’s quite clearly not acceptable by all, the Ukrainians are lining up to fight the army that has invaded their nation. Their nation, their lives, their freedom, their choice.

There was an agreement for Ukraine and Putin signed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

Not only that: He’s done a fantastic job reestablishing support for NATO. He’s isolated the Russian economy. He’s isolated Russia on the world stage. He’s demolished the credibility of Russia as a safe place to invest. Added to which he’s now learning Ukraine is no pushover. I can only assume he’s surrounded by people who have for some time now been afraid to tell him the truths he needs to hear.

To be taken as a hostage by the invading army. Once again I encourage you to find a Ukrainian to pass that idea on your behalf.

Here’s a fact. Ukrainians have armed themselves with petrol bombs to fight the invading Russian army. No amount of expressed concern for Ukrainian casualties from appeaseniks is going to change the will of those people to fight for their freedom. Arming them with modern weapons evens the odds. It’s one of the right things to do.

Fortunately for humanity that line of argument has been defeated many times.

I’m sorry you have a problem accepting that Ukrainian has indeed been invaded. Yes we know about the demands of the invading aggressor, they’ve been discussed throughout this thread. Invading a sovereign nation provides no legitimacy to any demands made by the aggressor.

Of course you do, it leaves Putin to do as he pleases.

OK, give us an example of where surrendering to the invading army of a dictator worked out to be a good choice?

Protests in 54 cities across Russia, people willing to face the inevitable viscous consequences of speaking up against Putin. But once again your impartiality shines through.

Whataboutary. And given my record on opposing a number of ‘Western military actions’ completely baffling.

Let’s have a bit more history: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

So how did you learn of these corridors?

How about the invasion of a sovereign nation is not the basis to demand anything from anyone? Nor should it ever be.

Which ‘Democratic value’ is behind the invasion of a sovereign nation?

I’ve worked legally in Thailand for over 20 years, never had any problems with work permits or immigration officers. The ‘reserved occupations’ are by and large jobs no foreigner in his right mind would consider doing anyway.

Put him on trial for war crimes. ’Only following orders’ is not a defense.

I’ll equipped, poorly trained, underfed miserable conscripts freezing their nuts off. Is that the plan?

I always find arriving home that it fits me like an old pair of comfortable shoes.