Cabradelmar

declare, don't declare, it's irrelevant... because whatever happens, nothing would change as there is no political will to do what needs to be done. look at the up-side, when TAT misses it's 40 million goal they will have an easy built-in excuse.

And the instant thumping when you fail to comply to any of the simplest commands, resist or otherwise talkback #westernstyle

https://aseannow.com/topic/1322598-two-new-zealand-men-arrested-in-phuket-for-alleged-brutal-assault-on-traffic-cop/?do=findComment&comment=18774667

Doing what self entitled rich people do... Classic.

There is also evidence on the cops phone of the NZs trying to bribe their way out of the final stop, and eye witnesses at the noodle shop where the final stop occured. Hamish and Oscar did a stupid thing and will face consequences. That is a near certainty. As it should be. Should have just obligated the original traffic stop. Everyone knows those stop points are designed to sweep in as many as possible. But they also let go as many as they fine.

And the fact the NZs evaded an order by police to stop. It all starts with one bad decision. And that was what triggered everything. Even if the NZ bozos through the call to stop was unjustified, and even if the cop drew his weapon (on 2 fleeing and evading perpetrators), the NZs are on thin ice.

Yeah, so scared they didn't run off, just decided to hang out with the cop after the wrestling match to chat about it. 😂

They should have just paid the traffic cop. Far cheaper.

Hard to argue with video evidence. The second guessing about a "possible" unjustified traffic stop, subsequent shakedown, or fears of persecution will never justify or negate what's in the video. It was a TRAFFIC stop. There are now only excuses, made by 2 NZ guys with more brawn than brains. You have to be boarder line psychotic to escalate, even an unjustified traffic stop, in broad daylight, in front of witnesses, by even the worse of cops, asking for money, to a wrestling match over a live firearm. Until more people in Pattaya, Phuket and Koh Samui become enraged by the level of lawlessness by foreigners, and stop blaming the police, nothing improves. And that's the saddest part of all.

Yeah. I'm sure. The NZs will likely claim they thought it was a police escort to the beach. A public service for the self entitled. 😂

Nope, I did. Overly entitled gets my vote.

So in conclusion, anytime a police office draws down on someone that said someone is then entitled to wrestle the firearm away from law enforcement to "deescalate" the situation? GTFOH 😂

Yep. And still complain about it.

Flee a police stop and when they catch up to you expect to be confronted aggressively. How on earth that gets to a self defense argument is just utter nonsense. Nope these 2 foreigners need to be punished severely. What's great about the Thai legal system is that bull<deleted> arguments won't be entertained. The NZs are in the system now and it will be a painful journey.

There are no excuses. And the NZs will have many... Didn't know we had to stop, didn't understand the offices commands, felt threatened, blah blah blah... You failed to stop, and when you did the cops were pissed, things got heated (no doubt)... And then the assault on a police officer, taking his weapon. Anyone willing to confront law enforcement at this level deserves the maximum punishment. You don't need to like the police, but if Thailand doesn't get a handle on this soon, something far worse is likely to happen (eventually). Sadly, you can now expect far less gracious behavior from Thai police towards foreigners. You want western style law enforcement, well that's what you will get.

Fleeing and alluding. You try that anywhere with any cop and when they catch up to you weapons will be drawn. NZs got scared due to the escalation and did the dumb thing, and took the gun away. There is nothing to justify their actions. The brazen disregard for law enforcement, I hope, lands them in prison for years. It should. This is next level stupid. Even if they felt justified, they were not.

So what? The word means a white skinned foreigner.

Smuggled in from a neighboring country, not importing directly into Thailand from Brazil. I'd guess and say Myanmar or Laos.

Just another trying to get in the fraud game, thinking Thai authorities are too slow/lazy/dumb to catch them...

It's a miracle! It's almost as if there was never anything wrong with him 😂 #conman

Allegedly. Look up that word in your law dictionary.

Grab. And never charged a cancellation fee. Ever. Read the policy... it works against the drivers. The driver should be pissed because he likely sees nothing on these last minute cancellations. 7.2.1 Unless otherwise stated in any Grab Policy, you may cancel your request for transportation services at any time before you commence your ride with the Partner that has been matched with you by the Service.

Yep. And they will be quick to let you know, or quick tell you how much it will cost.

Man: "it's not getting bigger" Voice in man's head: "put another one on" 🤣🤣🤣

I have to say, I've not seen any reduction in the cost of imported wine. I suspect the vendors are just pocketing more profit.