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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

So nice to hear an intelligent voice of reason, amidst the panicked cries of "build the wall", or the country will go down in flames! 

 

The majority of Americans DO NOT support the wall, which is never going to get built. Only a percent of his base of devotees want the wall, and that is only due to constant brainwashing.

 

Roger stone was frustrated that Trump kept on forgetting to talk about immigration at the beginning of the campaign. He said Trump is a builder. He will remember to say build a wall. Hence the birth of the slogan and the fear mongering. The only terrorist apprehended at the border in the past 20 years was coming from Canada. All terrorists use the sea or come by air. None come by land. None. One in the past 20 years was caught. It is all a total ruse. Not only is illegal immigration way, way down, but if you look at crime statistics in the US, nine times more homicide is committed by American citizens, than by legal immigrants. And three times more homicide, by Americans, than by illegal immigrants. If Trump wants to solve the crime problem in the US, he has to get his own people in his administration and his team, to stop committing crime, then he has to stop committing crime, and then he can work on reforming his base, and then other Americans.

 

In a separate interview with NPR, on January 6, Darling expanded on his views. He is the mayor of McCallen, Texas.

“In certain locations, a wall or a fence or some deterrent makes sense but certainly not one across the great swath of the border in places where, ecologically, the damage would be much greater than a security benefit,” he said. “So it’s really a political football, I think. And just saying we’re going to build this great wall across the whole border makes no sense at all.”

 

 

Stop beating the drums, and listen to what is being said. You put forth a lot of effort for no good reason. What the major you quoted said is all that's being asked for. 

What Trump said yrs back doesn't necessarily hold true today about building a barrier across every foot of the southern border. Find the link to Trump's visit to the border 10 Jan. The Border Agent had some interesting things to say. 

2 minutes ago, Scott said:

Please supply a link for this information.  

 

news show on TV, words came from Border Patrol agent.

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Silly comment to ignore root causes - just like the destroyer in chief.

Classic move, edit my comment to feed your agenda.

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

How about addressing the points I raised rather than deflection

This is about stopping illegals at the border. Illegals not just from south of the border but from countries all over the world because of the soft border. The illegals circumstance in their home country is not my concern.

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

You do know Pakistani asylum seekers are seeking safe haven from oppressive Islamists, the vast majority being Christian. Last year trump cut by half the asylum seeker intake into the US, this year dropping to 30,000. In the meantime millions of asylum seekers are waiting years for relocation by UNHCR, whilst trump is also seriously cutting foreign aid for the most disenfranchised. trump has not articulated a solution for the majority of illegals who arrive with a visa, then overstay, only focusing on the optics for his base.

 

trump's knee jerk reactions are creating the very problems he is attempting to address. trump the destroyer does not have a strategic mind set, just tactical negative responses pandering to the minority of Americans - his base - a loser at large.

Everything is Trump's fault, illegals crossing the border, yep it's Trump's fault. The Border Agent confirmed the border requires more barrier. But, you go on living in your parallel universe. 

Mr. Trump just reported from the Border in Texas, one of the Agents in charge said in one day 133 illegals were apprehended from countries other than the usual suspects. 2 were Pakistani. Think about that, The agent was saying in his sector only 7 mi of border had a barrier with 93 miles of open border. Now the question is " How many folks aren't apprehended?

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You mean like having, heaven forbid, Social Security and Medicare???

 

I'm sure Putin and Castro are just giddy with glee and anticipation at the prospect of the U.S. becoming a socialist state... 

We have SS and Medicare already. Ms. Cortez is talking in favor of crazy tax rates like 80%. Re distributing the wealth is what the progressive libs want.

Life isn't fair. Get over it.

5 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Really? Then explain how Trump in a strong economy is more unpopular than Obama was during the aftermath of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

Only a massive consumption of the kool aid that the master is serving, could lead to a statement that is so erroneous, it does not even need to be disputed. Now, if you had said the majority of his base of 38%, that might have been accurate. The vast majority of Americans DO NOT support the wall, which is never going to get built. 

 

Roger stone was frustrated that Trump kept on forgetting to talk about immigration at the beginning of the campaign. He said Trump is a builder. He will remember to say build a wall. Hence the birth of the slogan and the fear mongering. The only terrorist apprehended at the border in the past 20 years was coming from Canada. All terrorists use the sea or come by air. None come by land. None. One in the past 20 years was caught. It is all a total ruse. Not only is illegal immigration way, way down, but if you look at crime statistics in the US, nine times more homicide is committed by American citizens, than by legal immigrants. And three times more homicide, by Americans, than by illegal immigrants. If Trump wants to solve the crime problem in the US, he has to get his own people in his administration and his team, to stop committing crime, then he has to stop committing crime, and then he can work on reforming his base, and then other Americans.

You kind of shot yourself in the foot with those murder statistics, I'll let you figure it out.

8 hours ago, zydeco said:

Works for you?

Oh, so Huawei dominates the global 5G network but Trump holds out for the Wall!

 

The US gives in on the South China Sea but Trump is determined to get $5 billion that will not even cover 100 miles of the Wall!

 

Forced technology to China proceeds but we're gonna get part of a Wall!

 

China pinky swears not to steal IP but here comes that Wall!

 

Made in China 2025 is changed (to Made in China 2035) but THE WALL!

 

And for those of us living in Thailand who might care, because of Trump's fixation on THE WALL, thus hiding his cave in on China and goosing more debt out of the Fed for his precious stock market: the US dollar has dropped from around 33 baht to the dollar to around 32 baht to the dollar in less than a month. Don't watch Mr. Tariff who turned out to be a surrender monkey. Watch Mr. WALL!

 

 

So, no wall funding will fix other problems. just more lefty rhetoric. 

Just now, zydeco said:

This is all a distraction.  Just like every other time Trump starts yelling about "the Wall." It will grab all the media attention and nobody will notice that he is about to surrender to China on trade. Watch it. The trade "agreement" is just around the corner and nobody will notice it. All because Trump wants "his precious," the stock market, to continue its path to an even bigger bubble. I am now sick of the sight of this man every time he pops up on television or the news. He needs to go away, quickly.

Works for me, go Trump.

Miss Pelosi is now getting jealous about Mr. Trump's air time and wants the same as well. Course she'll require Schumer standing next to her holding her steady. 

8 minutes ago, Kalasin Jo said:

Never been asked that at Sakhon Nakon. I've always started using the money once I have the Under Consideration stamp and never asked to show bank book on returning to get my extension stamp. 

I bought my Truck and motorbike there and would get my Residence Letter there, 1000 bht for a letter. I think other places it's more in the 300 bht range.

All the talk about how the "Agents" work their magic is sort of like us mere mortals arguing about how a cell phone works. Yeah we kinda know a little but certainly not the entire story.

I'll be staying in Thailand permanently in a year or so and plan on using Non-O ME, and if that gets to be too much, the Agent route seems like a good alternative.   

Make travel a pleasure, if I had to decide between a 200bht taxi or the hassle of a songtaw, the taxi wins every time. 

4 minutes ago, keemapoot said:

How in God's name do you draw that conclusion??? The existing barrier is a good idea, and supplementing it and adding to it in strategic places wisely is also a good idea. There is a whole host of measures that have been discussed that would work for border security, all of them better than this simplistic low-technology wall idea. The wall is symbolic and for Trump represents the ultimate ego stroke.  

And that's exactly what Trump himself said recently on TV. he himself said many locations don't need a barrier because of natural barriers. And the 5 billion is just a starter. The only problem with Trump's plan is it's coming from Trump mouth. If we had a Dem president the money would have been approved without all this drama.

1 minute ago, keemapoot said:

Listen to yourself deflecting that guy's arguments.

If extending the barrier is a bad idea, then by default that means the existing barrier is also a bad idea. If that's the case having a Border Patrol monitoring a meaningless barrier is also a bad idea. What's not to understand.

1 minute ago, keemapoot said:

I didn't hear him advocate any of those things. I heard a lucid, well-articulated appeal to reason from a guy who looks like he could be a Trump supporter. He also pointedly refrained from saying "Trump," and referred to the government as advocating the wall through fear-baiting, but we all know who really is behind planting these illogical fears in many American's conscience.

Listen to yourself " from a guy who looks like a Trump supporter"???? What, as opposed to a clean shaven guy in a suit without southern drawl.

16 minutes ago, mikebike said:

 

So according to this we'd be better off disbanding the Border Patrol because stopping illegals from entering is illogical. We'll stop repairing the barriers we have because after all, what good does it do. That's an outstanding plan.

Or, we can continue to let Trump do what a president is supposed to do like protecting the citizens of the US and the borders. I know what I'm favor of.