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2 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Fair point.  I don't know if that extends to a smoker walking down the street to be honest.

 

So given your excellent logic, we must also have cars off the roads. Agreed?  Or is there some particular reason why it's ok to cause such harm to everyone?

Cars benefit many and transport benefits all. Smoking benefits NO ONE.

Interesting and you have a GBP account? or THB?  I have a Bangkok Bank GBP and I'm unsure they would take a cheque.

How pathetic America has become the Boy Scouts want girl members and **** the Girl Scouts. 

Let's have Trans Scouts, Gay Scouts and how about PC Scouts where you can have all of them? 

17 hours ago, Srikcir said:

For those who haven't read the link:

No reasonable person would deny someone who is currently living and working a chance to become legal. They should set a zero day and grandfather in those that are there for 1 year or more and then harden up on entry from that date.

8 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Is there such a thing as a politician that is not corrupt?

 

Politics in Thailand has not benefited the people one bit since I first started visiting in 1984.

 

Politicians want to control the budgets plain and simple.

 

Even current PM now caught with paying twice as much for helicopters as they were worth.

 

Money is the only thing important to these people as money buys power and face.

 

"Don't you know who I am" !

 

Politicians will never help the average citizen of Thailand with quality of life, education, retirement, or anything else

 

The first valid election won by the populace, will have another coup and back to years more of the same.

 

No possible way forward as no political party ever has the concern of the country or people in mind or actions

Maybe it's wishful thinking but I like to think the younger generation cannot be as bad as the guys in charge now who are steeped in nationalist 1500s ammart thinking. 

15 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

To answer that question, one only has to look back 10 year previous and see what happened.

 

I first visited Thailand for an extended stay in 1984.

 

Nakon Nayok area.

 

I can honestly remember thinking, man, this must be God's Country. 

 

People were genuinely interesting and so good natured.

 

People were very happy and content with what they had because they didn't have any western mass marketing advertising telling them if they didn't own an Iphone there were nobody.

 

People worked hard for what little they had and were genuinely getting by just fine.

 

Without going into a diatribe, after I moved there full time in 2004, I was like holy shit! 

 

What the hell has happened to Thailand?

 

In those 20 years, western mass marketing advertising had taken over and Thai's then had to own everything.

 

Long gone was the happiness from not knowing they were poor.

 

Greed had replaced happiness and it was affecting everyone.

 

The Age of Money and Materialism had taken hold and developed such a strong grip it would change the personality of the entire country.

 

No longer were people or accepting of being poor.

 

Corruption was rampant to fuel the materialistic purchases that separate the Thai Hi-Si's from the rest of the population.

 

Corruption in government, politicians running for office simply to control budgets and steal from them, cops corrupt, schools corrupt, people injuring their own parents for control of their money, land, you name it. 

 

Crime due to greed had increased 100 fold. If there was a way to rip some one of to make money, Thai's would exploit it.

 

The education system, no matter what you say, has not moved forward one bit. When a high percentage of Thai's believe corruption is acceptable, what they are telling you is they want a chance at a share of the corruption money as well.

 

Land grabbing at an all-time high and we are just now seeing the monumental amount of resorts built on land they didn't even own.

 

Why did all of this happen in 20 years?

 

GREED due to being bombarded with western materialistic advertising.

 

All Thai's want to be somebody. 8 Student's living in a one room flat cannot understand that logic as long as they can be seen on the BTS with a new Iphone.

 

So where will Thailand be in 10 more years is easy to see.

 

Politicians fight, not for the right to make Thailand better, but to control the budgets that they will rape for their own personal financial gain.

 

Who will look out for the country and the people? The answer is no one.

 

Keep the population un-educated so the government can buy blimp airships for $700 million and expect the people to believe this is a sound purchase

 

Recent crackdowns on expats, when there is still monumental prostitution, drug dealers, you name it.

 

Expats are finally start to wise up to the fact, the country is going to do what ever it wants to regardless of the expats welfare or not?

 

I see a time, when if the current military regime doesn't get elected to run the country legally, then the next group of politicians will plunder the budgets for personal gain, allow their friends to land grab, build resorts, you name it.

 

Anyone that can expose that corruption will be arrested, disappear or shuttled out of the country.

 

Thailand has not advanced in industry for over 34 years since I have been there. Don't see any Thai Rockets heading to the Space Station and they are even launching from Africa these days.

 

Thailand will be more indebted to China than ever, as any rail project, dam or any other large infrastructure build money comes from China or Japan; yes there is a price to pay for that.

 

Thailand is the land of greed and corruption. Soap Operas all in giant mansions, mercedes benz, you name it. If you are not living like that, you have no worth.

 

No sane person can expect Thailand will ever get better and for expats, maybe even worse.

 

There is such of divide between the lifestyle of Thai's living in the city and those in Isaan who still struggle to survive cutting rice by hand for 200 baht per day.

 

It has not changed there in the 35 years since I first visited.

 

One can see the writing on the wall, that depending on which way the election winds blow, things could get even worse.

 

The best thing an expat could do is always have a plan; one way or the other.

 

There is no getting better until Thailand makes a commitment to educate the entire country and bring up their industrial skills to be able to develop themselves.

 

Predict there will be hard times ahead and the election will be the first start of all that.

No I think some of that is just we don't know what we don't know. Like you before I came here and lived I visited and worshiped Thais and Thailand but after I moved it was same as you "s**t it's an illusion".

I 'thought' they were happy but they were not and, as a suppressed people, until the dinosaurs are gone and hopefully the younger generation takes control they will be the same. 10 to 20 years to see that paradigm shift (if it comes).

ENOUGH already.

30 minutes ago, sambum said:

"Do you think that is because all have been living with and abiding the rules?"

 

Probably 99% of people that use(d) the Embassy letters abide(d) by the rules - I said much earlier in one of these threads that the ones they should be concentrating on are the ones who DIDN'T use the Embassy letters - the ones that ARE using dodgy Visa agencies - they are the ones who are falsifying their income and have led TI to "make a change".

 

However, that is definitely my last word on the subject - further discussion is pointless, but if you really must have the last word - go ahead!

That's not true. I know many American friends who 'swore' they had the income but didn't and laughed about it (how foolish the system was). I can't see what all the fuss is about. IF you have the income, and immigration accept that 65k into your account is proof what's issue?  IF immigration don't accept 65k into your Thai bank is proof then that is madness.

On 9/14/2018 at 5:37 PM, LammyTS1 said:

 

 

I have a click but haven’t used it since I bought a Vespa.

Yes they’re expensive, but I got a 2 year old LX125 for just 50k, cheaper than a new click. It’s now done 20,000 kms and still rides like a new bike. Top speed is 105-110kph but I upgraded the variator for improved acceleration, but now has a top speed of 115-118kph.

Test ride a Vespa & I’ll guarantee you’ll forget about the click.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

 

 

I have a Vespa and really dislike it because of the handling.  I used to have a PCX which is superior in every way. Now looking at the Yamaha QBIX for a small run around.

Arrest these terrible people who are hurting the hearts of Thais everywhere (minus the 6.2m and counting).  Lock them up!

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

MSM is making it clear that Trump's rhetoric is partially responsible.

 

When the communists thought the US considered the Korean peninsula outside its sphere of influence, they invaded South Korea.  When Saddam Hussein thought the US wasn't concerned with what happened in the Arabian Middle East, he invaded Kuwait.  When Saudi Arabia concluded (correctly) that Trump likes autocrats and hates journalists, it murdered Jamal Khashoggi.

 

The language used by the White House matters.  That's why responsible Presidents choose their words carefully.

And the Dems "harass them everywhere" does not contribute?  really???  Clinton "we can't be civil with them" and all the other hate?  Maxine Waters especially? 

MSN don't speak about THAT oh no it's Trump's fault there is a nutter sending bombs. You think America's gonna buy that?  none of this hate speech helps anything and it should be roundly condemned on ALL sides.

her next record is out next week:
 

"having a mental breakdown and Allah have another one soon"

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Just admit it was a trump supporter and not a democrat ploy as pushed by some here.

Obviously it was a Trump supporter but he can't be blamed for some nut case they are everywhere.

All that should happen is UTTER condemnation on both sides and don't tell me the Dems are not whining "it's Trump's fault" on every MSN channel they can. I condemn blaming by either side and I'm sick of it.

2 hours ago, Dave67 said:

Those who call him selfish know nothing about depression.

Did you READ what I said?

"in a right frame of mind,  to his fishing friends and his family back home but disturbed people do very disturbing things."  so my suggestion was?????????????? 

yes you got it 'he was not selfish because he was not in his right frame of mind he WAS disturbed'   *sigh*

6 hours ago, bristolboy said:

I bet you have lots of imaginary friends.

Yes just like the MSN:

'a source say's' 

'we have been told by someone familiar with the matter'

'it has been reported that within the White House...'

'a senior figure told us...'

Lot's of imaginary friends daily with not ONE IOTA of facts, figures or data.

6 hours ago, Becker said:

"You think MSN is 'sane and moderate'?  really?"

Where did I specifically mention MSN?

 

"Did I use Fox as an example?  Nah you made that up!"

Where did I say that? I said you never attack them. You seem to hear/read things that are not there. Are you sure your liberal friends are real?

 I never attacked the Jewish Chronicle either, you make a cheap deflection which is not part of the debate.  I include ALL the media (as you well know) and I ask for NON-POLITICAL reporting of facts. That's what the press should do.

Just now, Bluespunk said:

The poster I quoted is saying differently. 

I think we agree that assertions from either side that 'it's their fault' is absurd (but I see and hear it daily) and adds fuel to the fire. Whatever nut job did it needs shutting away for a very long time.