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29 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

How many think the Democrats would call a so-called legal expert that did not think Trump should be impeached...raise your hands...I thought so!   ????

None such exist. If they're an expert then they say "impeach." If you believe in truth then they say "impeach." 

"Republicans complained that the inquiry lacked testimony from people with direct knowledge of the events. Trump has instructed current and former members of his administration not to testify or produce documents, leading senior officials like Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to defy House subpoenas."

You can not get a more clear example of pure obstruction. This means "impeach."

Three experts report that all requirements for impeachment were met - overwhelmingly.

It would appear you understand the whole concept of a vpn and what it's used for. Technically what you do, downloading torrents, is illegal. EVERY time I've tried downloading without a vpn when visiting relatives in the states I get a very nasty email (actually my relatives get it and ask me "What the hell?"). I have access to an account for U.S. cable which requires the appearance of being in the U.S. so a vpn is mandatory. You? You take a very small risk. I doubt you'll get popped for it, but the bridge players doing NOTHING illegal were busted. A vpn would be strictly for peace of mind.

Just now, JHolmesJr said:

Because all they offered were presumptions and their own biased opinions.

No evidence except superhuman powers of hearing.

When you believe one man above science, above U.S. Intelligence agencies, above former CIA directors and retired generals and career journalists - when you believe one man above even your own eyes and ears - you are fully indoctrinated.

1 minute ago, poohy said:

Did what? Their job!

I bet you be gettin' a lump of coal in your stocking this year.

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12 minutes ago, candide said:

They presented uncontested evidence. No one contradicted them under oath.

Haven't you realized you can't get through to some of these folks? If Trump supporters were actually interested in the truth then they wouldn't be Trump supporters in the first place.

Went for my 90 day report, Wednesday afternoon 1:45. In and out under five minutes.

Very crowded, line not quite out the door, but only one person in front of me for their 90 day.

PLENTY of people in shorts, sandals and T-shirts. Nothing scruffy, everyone wearing their "good" shorts.

Jomtien is the best!

Doesn't Erdogan owe Trump for giving him and Putin Syria?

1 minute ago, WalkingOrders said:

It still has to go to the Senate - and the Senate are not going to remove him, and well....that's it -- the last Democrat bullet has been shot, and then its four more years of Trump because the entire country next will witness what happens when Barr, Durham, and the IG all unfold.  The Senate will not convict, the potential that the house will not bring charges still exists. This whole thing is a farce. Go ahead mock me, talk your defense of the process, call Trump a bad guy...none of your opinion is going to change what is coming. After you are all proved wrong and Trump survives you will continue to render excuses. That's my prediction. And Biden the latest video of him rambling incoherently about the hair on his legs and kids on his lap shows that he needs to be brought home and put into an easy chair with the remote control in his hands before he hurts himself. There simply is no way to defend this craziness, even if Trump never existed: 

 

You know what the REAL problem is (of COURSE I'm gonna tell you!)? Nobody discusses any more. People only argue, and that's a profound loss for us all. In a discussion, you leave yourself open to the possibility of other ideas. In an argument, you have already up your mind and NO amount of fact will change that. What you post here is not fact, it is conjecture from your perspective. The Senate (a singular NOT plural body) has erroneously announced they will not remove the president before seeing a single piece of evidence at trial. Hell, Lindsey Graham has openly said he will refuse to even LOOK at any evidence. This is the very definition of a kangaroo court and makes a mockery of what SHOULD be one of the most austere legal bodies in one of the most serious matters most of us have ever experienced in our lifetimes.

The fact that the Senate has openly declared it will not convict before the trial has even started has openly shouted to the world the U.S. government is no longer about truth, no longer about patriotism, NO LONGER ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW! Rather, the Senate has publicly shamed itself. This is how banana republics behave.

5 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber lays out a really solid case, comparing what Trump has done with what Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich’s did years ago, i.e., a failed bribery plot to trade a senate seat for something of value (read quid pro quo).  It's amazingly similar.  When caught, Blagojevich used the exact same excuses Trump is using.  It didn't matter--he was indicted, impeached, and convicted.  He was sent to jail and is still in jail to this day.

I watched that! I couldn't believe how much has changed since Gov Rod got jailed, how much the public has become numb to what's going on! The most frightening realization:

When you believe ONE MAN above science, above our Intelligence agencies, above former CIA directors and retired generals, and revered career journalists - when you believe that one man above even your own eyes and ears - you have become fully indoctrinated.

Those dart balloon booths don't look so bad NOW, do they?

52 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

He isn't frightened and the bright thing to do would be to stonewall the dems.

Yes, for crying out loud, NEVER comply, NEVER provide witnesses, NEVER hand over subpoenaed documents . . .

Said no innocent man EVER.

2 hours ago, Longcut said:

How much is all this shenanigans costing the American taxpayers? Are the Democrats going to reimburse the American people for all this BS? I hope the real cost of all this comes to light before the next election. 

Every time someone brings up this tired, ridiculous trope, I remind them that so far 36 people have been indicted/convicted, and many of them either are wearing orange jumpsuits or waiting to get fitted for one.