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3 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

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Now that it has been established that there was no quid pro quo,

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Have you not heard from over a dozen witnesses, some of them first hand and some of them Trump's own administration, that there WAS a quid pro quo?

15 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

The Democrats overriding TDS won't permit them to focus on anything else.

I thought we rid ourselves of the "TDS" name calling. That's a term used by those who can't come up with a cogent argument.

15 hours ago, Thainesss said:

 

It will not be a disaster for anyone unless you're an illegal alien or china. 

It will be a disaster if you are a veteran.

It will be a disaster if you are a farmer.

It will be a disaster if you are a woman.

It will be a disaster if you are a news reporter (even Shepherd Smith from Fox News got fired).

It will be a disaster if you are not white.

It will be a disaster if you get sick.

And the list goes on and on and on and . . .

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

I know he was accused, but I never know when he was convicted. Didn´t Trump restore his rank for not getting convicted?

The ENTIRE sum of Trump's communication was via tweets. Navy Secretary Richard Spencer said he wouldn't follow orders from a tweet but WOULD if an official order came down from the White House and got fired for it. You can't make this ???? up!

8 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

It's funny, we keep getting told by posters here that this fiasco has nothing to do with the Bidens, and yet every article that covers it makes mention of both Biden sr and jr. It is problematic that the only hard evidence of extortion/bribery/quid pro quo concerning the Ukraine comes from Biden sr with his boasting of witholding aid money until the Ukrainians fired the prosecutor. 

 It's the sticky fly paper syndrome that 3rd graders are familiar with, the harder they try make it off limits to discus the Bidens corruption and extortion, the more it gets mentioned. Oh dear!

Well, your boy Nunes (the Republican clown who was the minority leader in the inquiry) just got implicated in the Ukraine/Biden fiasco during the "Friday dump." He should have recused himself. If there were no Faux Noise spewing lies, this would have been a slam dunk. It's a shame the Fairness Doctrine was killed by Saint Ronald Reagan, and now we see the results. Orwellian doublespeak come to life.

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Agreed. Everybody knows that assumptions and presumptions are woefully inadequate in a high stakes trial. Had there been any hard evidence at all, this would have played out differently.

That's OK. Trump SUPPRESSED all that "hard evidence" and in doing so obstructed justice, an article of impeachment in itself. Or, are you saying that all that suppressed evidence and testimony would have exonerated Trump but he was just too humble to allow it?

5 minutes ago, Tug said:

And trump is still out there pushing the russan disinformation like along with Nunes unbelievable!

Nunes was even called out during the inquiry about his involvement in Ukraine with Lev Parnas to dig up dirt on Biden. That alone should have required Nunes recuse himself. This is the epitome of an Orwellian dystopia.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/23/20979143/giuliani-lev-parnas-devin-nunes-biden-investigation-impeachment-inquiry

Here is a brief summary of this inquiry:

GOP: THIS IS BS UNLESS YOU HOLD A FLOOR VOTE!
Dems: OK, here's the vote.

GOP: WE'RE BEING SHUT OUT!
Dems: Four dozen of you were supposed to be here, but you usually don't show up.

GOP: THERE SHOULD BE PUBLIC HEARINGS!
Dems: OK, let's hold public hearings.

GOP: WE CAN'T CALL ANY WITNESSES!
Dems: We're calling the witnesses you requested.

GOP: IT'S ALL HEARSAY!
Dems: Here comes Gordon Sondland and Lt Col Vindham.

GOP: UKRAINE INTERFERED IN OUR ELECTION!
Hill: Russia interfered in out election; saying Ukraine did so is a Russian talking point.

GOP: TRUMP WAS JUST ROOTING OUT CORRUPTION!
Sondland: Trump didn't care whether the investigation actually happened.
Holmes: Trump didn't give a sh*t about Ukraine, just about finding mud on Biden.

Enough with the talking points. It's time to accept reality.

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

• The attorney, Joseph A. Bondy, represents Lev Parnas, the recently indicted Soviet-born American who worked with Giuliani to push claims of Democratic corruption in Ukraine. Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.

If I was a betting man, I'd put money on Lev Parnas singing like a canary.

I really feel sorry for Trump, surrounded by all those guilty liars. People! We need to PRAY for this president. Psalm 109:8

7 minutes ago, Tug said:

Sooooo let me seeee the guy that just got fined 2 million dollars for running a scam charity or a career diplomat putting his career on the line for his love of country 

Trump apologists will will come out and claim this is false, but this crime just got eclipsed by the MOUNTAIN OF OTHER CRIMES sucking up the spotlight.

32 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Are you from the states and a lawyer then? Otherwise I see just random sloganeering (except for the part about Roe v Wade, although only activists use the word attack)

I'm a U.S. citizen and know how to read. As such, I can recognize a Trump apologist a mile away.

3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

And for what? For Trump? Really? 

I honestly think it's all about the extreme right wing judges. As of 17 September 2019, Trump has appointed 150 lifetime federal judges. This is going to throw the states back into the dark ages. Roe v Wade is already under attack and similar crazy laws are coming down the pike. Corporations are LOVING it!

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO every day this farce continues makes Trump more likely to win next year. Every thinking American must be wondering how the politicians they pay to run the country can be doing their job when it's all Trump, Trump, Trump day in day out.

What Trump has done is rip off the veil that was keeping the ugly part of America under cover. We thought prejudice was almost gone, but with Trump's horrific rallies and policies, white nationalists have become emboldened, homophobic attacks have surged, Orwellian doublespeak is now a daily offense.

Trump WILL be impeached, Congress has the votes, this is a done deal. I really do fear this process will fan the flames of his blinded supporters and he very well could get a second term.

We ALL need to pray for the president. Psalm 109:8

Look it up, you'll get it.

37 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

*Yawn* Yet another nothing burger.

 

No quid pro quo.

I can understand if, in your opinion, it was nothing. However, when you repeat the lie of "no quid pro quo" in light of the mountain of evidence to the contrary, this says everything about your inability to even try to be objective. Your credibility is now *zero*

13 minutes ago, madmitch said:

Does every Immigration office have it's own vinyl poster printing machine? How else do they get these posters printed so quickly? Unless they are done in advance at the local print shop, in which case if I were on overstay or operating a dodgy racket I'd be there every day checking my mugshot wasn't all over one of them!

Maybe they make a poster then "find" criminals that fit the bill?