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No worries. We have been assured Thailand's response has been amongst the best in the world.
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8 hours ago, webfact said:
People who have concealed information to medical staff are being blamed for the spike of COVID-19 cases.
Super shocking since many posters have assured us of Thailand's amazing, world class covid response.
I guess these lying Thais the government has mentioned multiple times have only just become immoral. Before everyone in the country was honest.
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6 hours ago, webfact said:AstraZeneca announced today that the samples from test batches of the COVID-19 vaccine made by Siam Bioscience had passed quality testing at AstraZeneca’s designated laboratories in Europe and in the U.S
Good job. I'm sure there was a learning curve. Now, get the country's population vaccinated ASAP.
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3 hours ago, webfact said:
BANGKOK (NNT) - Aeronautical Radio of Thailand (Aerothai) has lowered its estimates of total domestic and international air travel in 2021 to 323,093 flights, a 38% reduction from its 518,790 flights estimate at the start of the year.
More like a 78 or 88% reduction, but who's counting.
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22 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:
I have a very strong suspicion China has encouraged Thailand to delay all other vaccines into Thailand so that Sinovac can fill the void. No doubt the Chinese would also be quite happy to pay the 30% backhanders into the pockets of their Sino Thai cousins. Win Win Cooperation.
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37 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:
TAT and the PM will spin this in no time to say there was an increase in flights and the gap has been narrowed in losses thanks to the we travel together scheme and government assistance.
Yes, We Travel Together scheme or the Thai Domestic Tourism that posters such as @sandyf told us would plug the gap left by foreign tourism. ????
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Magic. Same, flat numbers. Thai Magic.
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On 5/8/2021 at 4:56 AM, webfact said:
“There is no challenge”, responded Thailand’s Public Health Minister, Anutin Charnvirakul, when asked by Thai PBS World what he thinks is the most challenging factor in the latest wave of the COVID-19.
Dismissive arrogant incompetence. A national characteristic.
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14 hours ago, webfact said:
People aged 60 or over in Thailand now have the option of having the Chinese-made Sinovac, instead of just AstraZeneca’s vaccine
No doubt their Chinese masters had them print this. Trying to fool people into thinking they are privileged to have access to the Sinovac gutter oil ????????????
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God so many people are endlessly stupid.
You could have 90% of the world's population vaccinated tomorrow and tourism still would not be back in any significant way for a year or two.
Incredible they can't understand it.
This is a multi year recovery from the time the globe has it under control.
No time soon
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4 hours ago, DrJack54 said:Agree.
When Melbourne, Au reached ~ 1000 cases per day they went into HARD lockdown that lasted 112 days. Currently that state has zero daily positive from testing. Few days ago another state WA had ~ 2 or 3 test positive and went into 3 day lockdown. Sydney recently had couple of + tests and other states of Oz banned entries from some areas.
Bangkok is not in lockdown. Far from it.
Granted different countries so comparison is over simplifying the issue.
What you don't seem to understand is what some posters know. Thailand is a magical place where they are protected by ancient amulets and other wisdoms and powers.
And where those don't work, they have amongst the best covid response in the world.
That's why the numbers in Thailand are so low and so flat. Has nothing to do with testing.
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4 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:
Some have made that claim but I'm not sure about it...at the end of 2019 and early 2020, all countries were unsure of the magnitude of what was happening. Since then, they have been very strict when it comes to the virus.
They were unsure because China was lying. They are still lying. It's been proven and admitted that they were working on a vaccine 2 weeks before they succumbed to pressure to admit the virus was human to human transmissible.
Anyway, they will pay a price of armed conflict a generation growing up without fathers.
Back to the topic. Wait, what were we talking about?
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5 hours ago, Flying Saucage said:
Never heard that in Thailand anything technically demanding is illegally copied other than T-shirts.
This is not China, where they copy everything, even airplanes and high-speed trains. The new Chinese Comac passenger jets are quite exact copies of Airbus.
But Thailand? Come on!
I think it's 1) simply someone's job to be thorough and Thailand is a known issue for decades and 2) there are likely some intelligent people in the US government bodies keeping southeast asian countries on their toes in anticipation of China trying to use countries like Thailand, Myanmar, Laos and others as proxies.
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18 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:
I would argue that's a strong incentive to report the numbers honestly...do you think the Chinese, their largest and most important market, are going to allow their nationals to return if they suspect any fudging of the numbers.
I like many of your posts, but I have to suspect you're having a laugh? The Chinese are the world's fudgiest in every aspect of their society. They did lobby to send their sickened tourists all over the world at the end of 2019 so perhaps they don't care.
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This is what happens when the charade is up and you can no longer hide and your incompetence behind well-crafted propaganda.
They should take lessons from China - kick out or threaten all foreigners, lock down the media, push out constant propaganda about how perfect everything is.
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10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:
Yeah, you can repeat your mantra over and over, but answer this:
Chonburi is extensively tested every day. Why aren't the numbers that high?
How do you know Chonburi is extensively tested every day? Are you part of the testing effort or have you simply chosen to believe something you've been told? That's your answer. ????
1. The Thai infrastructure is largely incompetent. I don't think anyone would genuinely be surprised by this -- especially anyone who has lived here for long.
2. Thailand has a STRONG incentive to underreport. Haven't you seen the incessant pleas to lure tourists back - even before it's safe to do so? A massive chunk of Thailand's economy is virtually shut down. Previously (and obviously dishonestly) reported to be 9% of GDP but recently admitted to be well over 20% (which is still too low).
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1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
The most useful info in these stats and graphs are the (typical) cartoons. ????
On a serious note, thank you for taking the time to post all the stats, though they are likely wildly inaccurate. Whether the reported numbers are rising or falling is useful to some extent.
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5 hours ago, dinsdale said:
Get >2000 with low mass testing (argue against this if you will) and the infections rate MUST be higher. BKK alone should be doing 10,000+ tests a day. Test more, find more. This is one way to stop clusters early.
It's probably too late. "Brazil" variant has been detected. Only a matter of time before "India" variant as well, probably coming across from Myanmar and the fighting there.
The Thais refuse to be serious and so they'll pay a significant price.
To all the people who think they are testing properly and somehome, magically, beyond any mathematical reality, the cases are stable everyday: you shall see soon.
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This is their level. It's fun to make fun of them, but the reality is that we should pity them. They can't seem to understand these things.
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15 hours ago, Scott Tracy said:One would think, unless Thai Airways has filed for bankruptcy protection everywhere, anywhere it flies, it will have lien on its assets in no time.
The best thing in the world would be if countries start seizing THAI airplanes. Massive and deserved loss of face.
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Very obvious and predictable strategy here. They were always simply stalling until tourism kicked in again and they should start making money again.
The entire thing is a charade, though their foreign creditors are the only serious parties.
The Thai bankruptcy court could not care less and all these powerful Sino Thais will be conspiring to stall the proceedings until the pandemic is over and large numbers of tourists return.
They have no other strategy.
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14 hours ago, kimamey said:
I've never noticed this attitude from Thais in Isaan where I live or in general but I do think it may exist in government circles which means it has a greater effect.
I don't know about the Thai smile but Thai politeness exits but with limits. Anyone who claims Thais are always polite has never driven on Thai roads.
The prevailing xenophobia is, in my opinion, driven primarily by Sino Thais and Sino Thai elites in particular. Experience shows in virtually every part of the world where there are large ethnic Chinese national populations, there is a deep xenophobia for outsiders. Now, it's not just ethnic Chinese, of course. East Asians are largely deeply xenophobic. I love and respect Japanese culture, but I would NEVER live in Japan.
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43 minutes ago, TaoNow said:Indeed Ben.
And the collateral damage of the Covid pandemic might be the deterrence of the international sex tourists who used to come to Thailand to plunge their fingers into the "candy store."
The demise of that market could be the silver lining of this all, and to the great relief of mainstream Thailand.
Rest assured that Thailand's main export will be its pretty women for decades to come. Until the Sino Thai elites understand that increasing the size of the economic pie is better than pocketing every satang they can, most Thais will remain poor.
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5 minutes ago, rabas said:
Please read my above post. Standard protocol calls for widespread screening to discover outbreaks, done in Thialand. Then testing is adjusted to maintain a high level of tests/positive case. Or a low percentage of positives/test. Same same.
By studying the below graph can you see which country excels at that? Without Thai man bad glasses it is clearly Thailand.
I can show you a graph of virtually anything. Does not mean it's accurate or created in good faith. Surely you are aware that people do lie. Even Thais. And, people are incompetent. If you'd like examples of times graphs were ENTIRELY and CATASTROPHICALLY incorrect, I can furnish a few. ????
Thailand halts entry of foreigners from Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal over virus variant
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Yeah, unfortunately even with the best quarantine system in the world, some will slip through for a variety of reasons.
Every variant will be found in every place on earth. That's almost a guarantee. Only a matter of when.