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2 hours ago, Surelynot said:They still don't seem to get it........in the middle of a pandemic you can't have holidays, weekend breaks, parties and trips abroad......get real and deal with it.
Agree. Reason they can't deal with it because
- like young children, and whilst having among the lowest testing rates in the world, they were busy telling the world that Thailand was "Covid free" thinking they could get tourists to come back immediately
- thus not investing in early procurement of vaccine candidates
- grossly underestimating the scale of and impact the pandemic would have
- being forced to acknowledge their long lie that foreign tourism contributes only 9% to GDP which grossly inaccurate
- and sadly have no backup plan for the 2 tier economy as the education system is horrific and leaves 10s of millions of Thais entirely unprepared for the emerging global economy
They've gotten almost everything wrong. And, now they are going to suffer as the world quickly races by.
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1 hour ago, scorecard said:
The reality is that they have no business plan that does not rely heavily on foreign tourism. They will stall as long as they can delaying their foreign creditors until mass tourism is revived."
Well there is an answer > no tourists therefore revenues down > easy answer > raise fares.
I will not be surprised if they do that. Thai Logic ????????
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18 hours ago, webfact said:
A Thai satellite has close shave with a space object last Saturday night
I had no idea there were Thai satellites! Wow. This is really big news!
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The reality is that they have no business plan that does not rely heavily on foreign tourism. They will stall as long as they can delaying their foreign creditors until mass tourism is revived.
Expect their foreign creditors to be trying to get money from THAI for a decade or longer.
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24 minutes ago, Suua said:
The only celebrating I will be doing is when the CCP are unceremoniously shot in the face.
And all Chinese nationals sent out of the West. They are not all bad but they are all easily exploited by their government and are thus a risk.
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Fellow Farangs should be aware of stories like this as it is not entirely unlikely that such stories will brew in Thailand putting foreigners at risk of retaliatory violence.
Even though this piece of trash appears to be black, there have been many similar stories in western countries involving whites and even Indians.
Stay alert
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On 2/7/2021 at 4:43 PM, TooBigToFit said:
I'd like to know more about this and the supposed other two people who were attacked. I also want to note that the guy was arrested along with someone who had a strangely Asian-looking name. I don't know if that person was actually Asian or not. Was that the person who filmed this? That's another person who we need to know.
"Also arrested was 20-year-old Maylasia Goo, who was charged with being an accessory after the fact." - from the DailyMail.
Personally, I don't doubt the attacker had some racist attitudes but most of these street thugs are just out for any weak victim or person who gives them any look. They are angry at the world more than any race or person. But in an area like San Francisco with many Asians, the attacker could just be going after Asians thinking them and easy target. I don't see this as a sign of some massive rise in racism towards Asians but more like one serial bully who targeted Asians who is now going to jail for murder.
With that said...
I checked out the tag #JusticeForVicha that was in the picture and found a clip posted on Twitter about this.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForVicha
A couple posters had some real anger at racism towards Asians/what they see as going on.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1357620390277730304
https://twitter.com/nguyen_amanda/status/1358083831237083138
There's another tag as well #AsiansAreHuman
You could very well be correct. Not excusing this disgusting violence against an elderly man. At the same time, Asian in western countries have learned to exploit race whenever possible to advance their cause. We all know how many racially motivated deaths occur in places like Thailand against Farangs, for example, but Thailand does not have a culture and news media that amplifies the race message at every opportunity. You'd likely find that even Thais living in the US have no clue how much racial violence occurs in Thailand.
This is the power of biased, propagandist 'progressive' media in western countries.
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4 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:Your dumb government destroyed the most lives.
I'm not from China. But, yes, you are correct. The Chinese government destroyed the most lives and this is why anti-China sentiment is so strong globally and is projected to remain strong for at least a generation.
Realistic estimates in China are that at least several million people have died from the virus. If you believe the official stats, that is everything I need to know about you.
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2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:Stranded me on the other hand will be boycotting my local Chinese chip shop the same as I have done for the last 353 days take that Xi ????
Same here. Boycotting this disgusting new year. Why would we celebrate the country that has destroyed so many lives. Ridiculous
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2 hours ago, ourmanflint said:Thailand still on track to be one of the last developed countries to be vaccinated. Bravo
Nearly none of us who've lived here surprised. Thailand is truly world class at failing.
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3 hours ago, from the home of CC said:
and some countries with all the benefits of 'education' and resources ended up with the highest death rates in the world - 'forward thinking' 'properly managed' ? biggest lines of bs I've heard all week ????
And, others have convinced daft, probably poorly educated and skint blue collar retirees that they have beaten the virus.
Let's see who comes out on top in the mid term. Some seem to be freezing to death without coal and stealing rice from SEA countries because they can't feed their borg.
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2 hours ago, Stygge said:
Maybe Thailand need a quick fix. Tanzania has declared itself covid free and won´t be needing any vaccine thanks to a revolutionary green smoothie consisting of local vegetables.
I´m surprised enterprising thais hasn´t come up with a lucky covid amulet yet. It works for traffic so why not for covid? No vaccine needed and welcome tourists.
@Natai Beach didn't you mention something about a Thai vaccine consisting of strong Thai herbs and chilis? What phase of testing is the Thai vaccine at?
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7 minutes ago, John Drake said:
Optimism is a good thing. I'll take it. Better than being locked down when there are no vaccines to be had.
Optimism is not a good thing when it replaces common sense and intelligent action.
Every child thinks he can be a professional athlete. Children are optimistic in this way.
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20 minutes ago, internationalism said:
I have quoted new york times, a respectable journal. It's scientific summary of what is available. That is not an article about politics.
But it's you who is trying push red necks perspective into this discussion.
No, covid did not created mass hate against china. But I can see hatred coming against each government which were inept in dealing with pandemic - that does include the USA, the UK, Brasil, where presidents openly spread disinformation and ignored incoming danger.
That would backfire not only against those governments (Trump lost election, Johnson also likely), but in the long term would lead to deeper political changes in those countries and worldwide. Profound change, similar to social and political changes which took place after the 1st and the 2nd world war.
That would also include china and thailand, even those governments were better in dealing with pandemic (or just lucky due to milder strain of covid or to many other factors).
Yes, at times of deep crisis, as we are now, hatred, nationalism, xenophobia and racism would emerge, and you are a prime example of such attitudes. Try to cope with stres in different ways than hatred, because it only destroys you and other around you. For me you are yet another frustrated gonzo, which just landed in my ignore list, so don't expect another reply
The fact you believe China's version of the truth is all I need to know about you.
All the best
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23 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:
Who the heck gave the center this obnoxious name?
Did a simple and sane "Center of Clinical Virology" not suffice?
17 hours ago, internationalism said:china has already 4, another 3 coming shortly (hopefully)
approved already in china:
"The Chinese company CanSino Biologics developed Convidecia in partnership with the Institute of Biology at the country’s Academy of Military Medical Sciences"
"The Beijing Institute of Biological Products created an inactivated coronavirus vaccine that was put into clinical trials by the state-owned Chinese company Sinopharm." APPROVED FOR USE IN: Bahrain, China, United Arab Emirates. EMERGENCY USE IN: Egypt, Hungary, Jordan, Pakistan.
"Sinovac Biotech, a private Chinese company, developed an inactivated vaccine called CoronaVac in early 2020" EMERGENCY USE IN: Azerbaijan, Brazil, China, Chile, Indonesia, Turkey.
"Along with their Beijing Institute vaccine, Sinopharm also tested an inactivated virus vaccine developed by the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products" LIMITED USE IN: China, United Arab Emirates
phase 3:
"The Chinese company Anhui Zhifei Longcom and the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences partnered to make a vaccine. ... Phase 3 trial with 29,000 volunteers in December"
"Clover Biopharmaceuticals developed a vaccine containing the spike protein from coronaviruses. To further stimulate the immune system, the company is testing so-called adjuvants made by ... the American company Dynavax"
"Researchers at the Institute of Medical Biology at the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, which has invented vaccines for polio and hepatitis A, created an inactivated coronavirus vaccine" In December the researchers launched a Phase 3 trial on up to 34,020 volunteers in Brazil and Malaysia"
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
Another paid 'wumao'?
You can stop pushing Chinese propaganda here. Billions of people all over the world hate China now. And with good reason. The benefit of the doubt will not be given to China for decades.
Only very daft people trust them.
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23 minutes ago, hotchilli said:Considering China [allegedly] manufactured Covid 19 you'd think they would have the first vaccine.
Seems they are not so smart when unable to steal from others
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52 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:
the Thais are a resourceful people, they'll adapt and move on from this nonsense that only benefits a few..
All humans are resourceful. Thais are not special.
What should have happened is the Thai government should have been investing in preparing Thais for the next decade. Some countries have been doing this.
Also, they should have been improving their tourism industry.
Also, they should have been trying to profit from the geopolitical situation with the world divesting of China. Vietnam did this.
Thais will continue to be poor and at the mercy of richer foreigners who come to exploit their poverty.
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1 hour ago, superal said:This is becoming a puzzle because I am sure Astrazeneca offered either the vaccine at cost and also offered to supervise the building of labs and production lines again all at a non profit plan . Or has this been rejected because it would be difficult to sell at a profit with the world aware ? I would not be surprised to see the Chineses vaccine Sinovac or the Russian Sputnik V being rolled out in Thailand cos to me that could be a reason for delays so as to procure the volume needed under secretive contracts .
Finally it is estimated that Thailand has in the region of 200,000 foreigners within the country and as of yet there has been no mention for their consideration vaccine wise . Now if a Russian or Chinese vaccine were to be mandatory that would cause a few farangs to panic .
Forward-thinking countries invested in vaccines early on. Some countries put money into multiple vaccine candidates.
Thailand did not and are thus at the back of the queue.
They were too busy telling the world they were "covid free" whilst doing almost no testing.
Thailand deserves to wait now while all the properly managed countries who dumped billions into the vaccines get the vaccines first.
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4 hours ago, rooster59 said:
TAT chief admits it could be THREE YEARS before Thai tourism is back to normal
@sandyf I'm so surprised about this. I thought the domestic Thai tourism could fill the very temporary gaps. The pandemic was only supposed to last a few weeks.
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As usual, the country is entirely uncoordinated with no well thought plans.
If they open now, they'll be burning through money with very few tourists. Of course, if it helps keep regular Thai workers marginally employed, then great.
If the country was smart, they would have been and would be investing heavily into a variety of infrastructure and reforms to prepare for a revival of tourism that is not coming this year guaranteed.
They are such shortsighted people. Too bad.
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3 hours ago, jacko45k said:
Nope.... I don't see how..
Has anything to do with this fraud perpetrated by a Thai male bank manager... just you having a go at some of the Pattaya Expats. Do you really know any? I know quite a lot and they seem pretty clued up, financially enough to live retired in Thailand, rather than some sad life on a pension back in the west.
I see now. You don't understand what I wrote.
I am talking about the fact that Farangs often date whores who have access to their accounts which is VERY relevant. If you can't understand or refuse to acknowledge that, I give up.
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@sandyf I'm super surprised the Thai Domestic tourism is not enough to cover the gap.
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2 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:
Problems are many.
These old farang blokes are often not too clued up.
They marry and date and open joint account with hookers and other lowly Thai people (almost never decent Thai women). I know "she only work cashier"... sure
Their Thai lady companions often constantly drip money from their accounts, constantly buying stuff or giving money to "cousin" or some other handyman, overpaying said "cousin" ... for some reason
The blokes almost never audit their accounts
Thailand in general is a very low trust society where nobody should be trusted implicitly, least of all people in positions of authority -- like bankers. Thais know this, but Westerners take for granted.
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This all equals a recipe for disaster.
1 hour ago, jacko45k said:The ones you listed are not anything to do with this fraud really... and you make a lot of generalizations.... but I got one too..... judging by that crowd I am surprised they have tens of millions of baht of free money to 'invest'
I rather think all the points I mentioned are relevant. Of course they are indeed generalizations but, looking at the photo, VERY highly likely to be fairly accurate. Come on, we all know how it is here.
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Hooker girlfriends and wives constantly funnel money out of the accounts making them difficult to audit. For example, if a guy doesn't spend much or takes our money in lump sums to spend on things but has a lady who is constantly transacting (after which he generally does not check his account every time), that makes knowing at any one time how much money is in the account difficult. This is common sense.
Westerners not generally being aware that in Thailand danger MORE OFTEN lurks in places it occurs LESS OFTEN in developed countries is also a huge risk. In most developed Western countries you'd hardly encounter a person in your entire life who will have had money stolen from them by inside people in a bank. It happens but far less frequently because of many things - more checks and balances, fewer destitute people, harsher penalties. This, too, is common sense.
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Problems are many.
These old farang blokes are often not too clued up.
They marry and date and open joint account with hookers and other lowly Thai people (almost never decent Thai women). I know "she only work cashier"... sure
Their Thai lady companions often constantly drip money from their accounts, constantly buying stuff or giving money to "cousin" or some other handyman, overpaying said "cousin" ... for some reason
The blokes almost never audit their accounts
Thailand in general is a very low trust society where nobody should be trusted implicitly, least of all people in positions of authority -- like bankers. Thais know this, but Westerners take for granted.
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This all equals a recipe for disaster.
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Thai businesses protest move to stop private vaccine imports
in Thailand News
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It would not be Thailand is everything was not chaotic and broken. I suppose it's what so many of us like about the place. Never a dull day.