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Fex Bluse
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2 hours ago, Poet said:
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Perhaps, some day, a mental giant will emerge in this thread who can explain how the mass tourism doesn't kick in later this year once everyone in the first world who wants to be vaccinated is, once people get to travel safely for the first time in over a year, and once Thailand drops its onerous quarantine and testing requirements.
Again, 90% of the posters here on ThaiVisa are operating from a deep-seated desire to see Thailand explode. What has actually happened is that an important (but not vital) industry paused for a year. Millions of workers, most low-wage, returned to their villages. The hotels and airports remained standing. A few elite families had to stop inhaling money for a year but are unlikely to run out of food.
It all starts up again once the government can plausibly claim that the most vulnerable have been vacinated, allowing them to welcome the filthy foreigners back in. Vaccinated filthy foreigners. They will point to the fact that every other country has adopted the same approach. Other major destinations have ALREADY started. By the summer they will all be scrambling to get their slice of the biggest tourism boom in decades as pent-up demand kicks in. The hotels will be unlocked and dusted. The workers will board buses and return from the provinces. Everyone will continue on as before.
I've set a reminder in my diary to find you in the forums in several months to see how world travel and tourism is going.
Many of us predicted where we are now whilst many people thought this thing would blow over in a couple months.
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11 hours ago, Duckster said:
Maybe in 2025 unless another pandemic raises it’s ugly head. Who’s going to risk jumping through all the hoops to get in and then realize everything has been closed down again because of another 100 infection spike? Mexico is my new go to vacation destination.
Or risk getting stranded somewhere like millions of people all over the world. These Thai officials are fantastically juvenile minded. They think no better than young children. No wonder the country is so underdeveloped.
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On 1/27/2021 at 9:46 AM, hotchilli said:
Males will be jumping off the nearest bridge, females will be selling on the streets.
I said it a year ago that it will be a great time to get destitute ladies who us old blokes would normally not be able to get.
Bring on the young Thai ladies with nice feet and no splayed toes! ????
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5 minutes ago, webfact said:Foreign tourist arrivals in Thailand fall to decade low
It's ok. Foreign tourism makes up only a small 9% of Thai GDP. ????
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Sorry, as much as most of us love certain aspects of Thailand, we all know the grandiose Thai plans are likely to be abject failures. It's almost guaranteed.
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34 minutes ago, webfact said:American-born Thai businessman
Oh, I see. When Farangs are rich and popular, they become honorary Thai-somethings. Nice.
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On 30/01/2021 at 1:47 PM, DLock said:The 50,000 AZ was purely a diversion and PR stunt. Irrelevant.
The Chinese vaccine is not approved and may not get approved. Unreliable.
The ongoing delivery problems will stretch out longer than "February". Unclear.
The offer by India was dismissed. Face issue.
The Siam Bioscience being manufactured in Thailand is not of that much benefit as most will be "sold" overseas. Bad contract with AZ or profit motives.
If we need a local hero, now is the time to step up.
Chula....Oh <deleted>.
???? Someone who gets it. The India refusal/Thai Face preservation issue being crucially impactful.
You see, despite half of Thai culture and a significant percentage of the Thai genome coming from India, Thailand doesn't accept Indian culture. No doubt largely the result of more recent Sino dominant culture in Thailand.
Sad
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2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:Don't think 99,000 cases and under 5,000 deaths in China is believable either. Also don't think many of this hosts figures would stack up to the slightest outside scrutiny ????
There is a mountain of evidence (from Chinese in China and others) that China has been dramatically underreporting from the beginning.
Best estimates are that many millions have died already and 10s of millions have been infected.
Nothing China says can be believed.
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5 hours ago, josephbloggs said:
If I am going to comment on it I will read the article first. Maybe you should try that some time.
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1 hour ago, Guderian said:...and so the vaccine wars begin!
The Thai people have to pay the price for EU bureaucracy and incompetence, very sad and a betrayal of all the values that the EU claims to stand for.
They pay the price of not taking their development seriously and being incapable of contributing in any meaningful way to the scientific community or vaccine development.
The west owes these people nothing.
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@Natai Beach I thought Thailand had
1) the highly regarded Chinese vaccines
2) it's own Thai vaccine
Why is Thailand delaying because of the inferior Western vaccines?
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4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:
Fex, do you ever actually read any of the articles or just the TV click bait headlines? Genuine question. (I know the answer)
HI Bloggs. I do a little of both. How about you?
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They also found the cure for ebola a few years ago.
Also, they learned that you change the tide of flood waters by using a bunch of junk boats with propellers aimed in the direction you want the waters to go.
Thailand is always one step ahead.
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On 1/26/2021 at 6:19 PM, bkk6060 said:
Yes, correct.
They know what is going on they spoke with their friends prior.
So, in 99% of the cases I believe they know what they are getting into.
So sorry, not feel sorry it is a pretty well known situation they are getting themselves into they can choose not to go.
Exactly.
Over there, they say:
"I like Arabia man. I like you. Thai people, we like Arabia people. Very rich."
Back in Thailand, massing Farang:
"I not like Thai man. Him boxing me. No good. Oh, you very big! Thai man, not so big. I like you."
Massaging Thai guy:
"I hate the Farang. Smell bad. Not nice. Not much money."
Thai women know exactly what they are doing. They are definitely the brighter sex here.
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On 1/25/2021 at 10:54 AM, webfact said:
They will be asked to offer sex.
Shocking. Never happens in Thailand between Thais, of course. Only evil foreigners
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On 1/28/2021 at 5:27 AM, webfact said:
Thailand to warmly welcome inoculated travellers
Oh! No more "lure" or "flock". Thailand must be hurting... Surprising since so many people say tourism is only 9% of GDP.
Also, very surprising that their domestic tourism cannot fill the gap, @sandyf.
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8 hours ago, webfact said:
TAT advocates "Sexy tours" for "quality tourists" to boost Thailand's recovery
They FINALLY accept who they are! This is a MOMENTOUS DAY ????????????
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8 hours ago, Camillof said:
My impression is that the big importers and national distribution chains who monopolize the consumers' market in this country swallow up for themselves all of the benefit resulting from those agreements, without leaving a crumb of it to the end consumer. And NOBODY complains except some of us foreigners.
Yes, the Sino Thai psuedo elites hurting the country but benefiting their families.
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30 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:white rum, vodka, gin I would imagine
More like sake (Japanese) and baijou (Chinese) and soju (Korean) I think
I would not be surprised if the Thais single out wine because it's mostly a westerner drink.
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6 hours ago, jomtienisgood said:
I'm not so sure about your speculations; Tourism representing , depending on sources somewhere between 6 & 16%......
This was long the official figures from the State. However, they finally admitted recently that it was at least 20%. And that is official tourist money. Does not include gray market and black market spending. It's likely over 30% Thai GDP, especially when sex is included.
Of course, they Thais are embarrassed by such a heavy reliance on foreign tourism.
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7 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:
Is she a front line worker? Over 65? "Reseacher" seems marginal risk. I'm acquainted with a guy that works IT for a hospital system. 100% remote work never goes into a medical facility. Got his first injection January 4. When I asked how he was able to get it so soon the he tells me "I got an email maybe I wasn't supposed to get requesting I schedule an appointment." Then this dirtbag had the nerve to post on Facebook "got my covid injection to help keep patients safe."
Yes, the vaccine does not prevent a person from acquiring the virus and becoming a carrier. It should in most cases prevent a carrier from becoming infectious but no guarantee. Ultimately it's to prevent a person from becoming seriously ill because your body should have developed antibodies.
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16 hours ago, crobe said:
Latest local infections in Thailand today (Saturday 23rd) are 180 of which 163 were in Samut Sakhon, 9 in Bangkok and 5 in Samut Songkhram
That means only 3 in other provinces and I am guessing that Chonburi will be zero or one as it has been in the past 5 days.
The "red-zone" restrictions are not due to be reviewed until the end of the month, but with the inter-provincial travel ban in place is it not time to immediately open up local restaurants and shops for local people to use?
It won't be much help but it may help a little
Depends on if one thinks the testing in Thailand is very accurate, reasonably accurate, very inaccurate or deliberately underreported.
Thailand still has one of the least aggressive testing programmes in the world.
Testing kits, especially from China, which is where most of the kits in Thailand come from, are horribly unreliable. See reports by Chinese whistle-blowers on same.
Mass tourism will not be back for any of this year, anywhere on earth. No countries.
It might not be back all of next year either as people rebuild their finances and governments open up.
This is a multi year recovery. Not get jabbed with a vaccine and 10s of millions travelling to Thailand. This is 2-5 year recovery IF the vaccines are efficacious.
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23 hours ago, KhaoYai said:
Far more than 1.5 million. Since very few Thai's pay income tax, it would be interesting to know what the world bank base their figures on.
World bank generally bases these things on a combination of survey data and data provided by the governments in each country. And therefore only gross approximates of the truth. And, often wildly unreliable
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1 hour ago, morrobay said:As much as I like calling spades spades too. As noted before on forum, there is no doubt this forum is read by some in government. It's not a coincidence that policies by government seem anti and negative towards foreigners , especially the Western , native English speaking ones.
It's my view that they should not be in public service if they cannot tolerate criticism.
Also, even though we are foreigners, most of us pay tax (well more per year than many Thais) and should be afforded equal protections under Thailand's laws, which is obviously not the case.
Further, whilst we cannot vote, we do have the right to certain speech without breaking any Thai laws.
Last, I don't think Thai elites would be any better to us if we let them walk all over us without any protest. They would just push harder. If you know anything about Sino culture, you know power is the only equalizer.
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Foreign tourist arrivals in Thailand fall to decade low
in Thailand News
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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/2021/01/what-will-covid-19-vaccines-mean-for-travel-coronavirus/
Until the world has herd immunity, travel needs to be approached cautiously: As Mullen says, “being overly, or prematurely, confident about the vaccines’ effectiveness can lead to putting people in other countries at risk. Travel gives us a chance to contribute to their faltering economies. But contributing to disease spread undermines that.”
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