vinny41

Toyota annual report has a tab which is labelled Sales of electrified vehicles and both the annual report and the Toyota Europe Newsroom both give a breakdown by type HEV,MHEV,PHEV,FCEV and BEV https://global.toyota/en/company/profile/production-sales-figures/202408.html the Toyota Europe Newsroom provides the break down to each model so anyone reading it can see that for example 19,651 bZ4X BEV were sold https://newsroom.toyota.eu/toyota-motor-europe-outperforms-market-with-all-time-record-sales-of-912671-vehicles-during-first-9-months/

As @JBChiangRai has posted many times One Swallow does not a Summer make.

I tend to take with a pinch of salt what Australians say about the automotive industry as far as I am aware the only major known brand that Australia is known for is the Holden The Holden was introduced to be Australia's car, being the first full scale produced automobile exclusive to the country. Prior to which, General Motors Holden's Ltd. assembled imported CKD kits from overseas General Motors subsidiaries such as Chevrolet, Buick, Vauxhall and more. And the only other cars built in the country being Ford and Chrysler vehicle bodies fitted to imported chassis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_(automobile)

Toyota Motor Europe outperforms market with all-time record sales of 912,671 vehicles during first 9 months Toyota Motor Europe (TME) vehicle sales up +6% year-on-year across the first three quarters, an all-time high for the period (1) TME’s total electrified sales mix has now reached 75% of all vehicles sold in Europe Toyota remains 2nd best-selling passenger car brand in Europe with sales growth of +5% year-on-year Toyota C-HR sales up +8% year-on-year boosted by the introduction of a plug-in hybrid model Lexus post record sales of 63,697 vehicles an increase of +17%, year-on-year https://newsroom.toyota.eu/toyota-motor-europe-outperforms-market-with-all-time-record-sales-of-912671-vehicles-during-first-9-months/

It makes a huge difference also important to show the baseline number if I sold one product in 2022 and then I said I increased sales by 1000% in 2023 that would mean I sold 10 products in 2023 selling 10 products not as impressive as saying sales increased by 1000%

For anyone that bought a MG ZS EV in 2022 and paid the after subsidy price of B949,000 their car value is approx B485K although most MG ZS EV are being advertised for around B469K now if there was no price reductions and alllowing an annual depreciation rate of 10% per year their car should be valued at B769K The Chinese EV Brands are reducing their prices to sell and they have a huge overstock but at the same time the price of parts are not reducing at the same level that is taking place with the price reductions on cars For the Chinese EV manufacturers that signed up to EV 3.0 subsidy in 2022 the conditions are for every car they imported in 2022 and 2023 they are required to build on a 1 to 1 ratio in 2024 there is an allowance that states if you don't build your quota in 2024 you can carry over that quota into 2025 but the ratio changes to 1.5 Thai builds for every 1 vehicle imported if you don't hit the quota and the end of 2025 they have to repay the subsidy + fines + import duties I have seen reports where the fines range from B550K to B750K The easiest solution would be if they were allowed for the 2023,2024 imports to be allowed to delay some of the local build into 2025/2026 on the same ratio as 2024 1 to 1 ratio Even with B450K price reductions that is still cheaper than paying back the subsidy y + fines + import duties Chinese EV industry in Thailand faces a crisis. It is demanding an urgent hearing from the government on its promotions https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2024/10/09/chinese-ev-industry-in-thailand-faces-crisis-it-is-demanding-an-urgent-hearing-from-the-government/

First class car insurance BYD ATTO 3 This year, the car insurance of BYD ATTO 3 has increased significantly from the first year of its launch. And many insurance companies have also 'delayed the warranty for electric cars', which has reduced the number of leading insurance companies quite a bit. https://money.priceza.com/blog/car-insurance/byd-atto-3-price-insure-blog/ Thaivivat adjusts EV insurance premiums after the Office of Insurance Commission (OIC) gives the green light to adjust premiums by 50% according to risk... https://www.prachachat.net/economy/news-1599485

MG updated their website 1st October https://www.mgcars.com/th/promotions/12

You not going to find a new one at B829 as MG reduced the price to B599K as they wanted to clear the remaining stock before the replacement model comes in next year And you wife confirmed with your local MG dealer that the B599k price was valid while stocks last as you posted here And you posted "The 599k & 699k advert is accurate, and available a MG dealer, while supplies last. And if past sales #s are any indication, they have more than few sitting around."

Thailand EV sales in 2023 went up 684% vs 2022 https://paultan.org/2024/01/09/thailand-ev-sales-in-2023-went-up-684-vs-2022-now-12-of-total-new-car-sales-byd-top-neta-second/ 684% increase of ev sales between 2022 and 2023 not the 900% that you posted and still haven't provided a link to support that claim There are plenty of facebook pages from various EV brands all stating that Insurance has doubled in insurance premium and that capital value has been reduced

Look foward to you providing a supporting link that EV sales have increased by 900% You are correct the 100% increase in insurance premium was incorrect it was 122% increase in Insurance premium from B9k to B20K with a capital value reduction from B840K to B640K as stated by the op here

I think the major negatives are cost of ownership EV vs Petrol 2020 MG ZS 1.5 model D millage between 60K-80K prices on one2car range from B345K to B369K no next to nothing in depreciation from when you sold your car in 2022 at B400k However the 2022 MG ZS EV model D has taken a huge hit in depreciation mainly from subsidy and price reductions price before subsidy 1,189,000 baht price after subsidy 949,000 Current price at dealers B599,000 for a brand new car There is a MG 2022 model x millage 10K-15K advertised for B495K depreciation and 100% increase in insurance costs + major reduction in Insurance capital value due to price reduction I would have expect the inital price of EV insurance to have been substantially lower than ICEV on the basis that only 20 moving parts on EV compared to 2,000 on ICEV but the killer is the EV battery which replacement costs are approx 70% of the total cost of the vehicle where compared to an ICEV there isn't a single component that costs 70% of the total cost of the vehicle Viriyah Insurance Mr. Surachai said that the number of EV insurance claims in the first quarter of 2024 grew by 100% compared to the first quarter of 2023. It is expected that the number of insurance claims in 2024 will grow by no less than 50% compared to 2023. https://www.thairath.co.th/news/auto/evcar/2798462

If you plan on driving in / through water, then a BEV may not be a wise choice. Flash-flood warning for 48 provinces, including Bangkok Flash flooding is a regular occurence in Thailand just going for a weekly shop in Makro or Big C you can come out and find the roads flooded MG produced a video of ZS driving through water Like all other videos it doesn't show real life of a large truck or bus coming in the other direction and the amount of wash that vehicle will produce especially as some drivers believe the faster you go in flooded water the safer your vehicle will be

MG ZS EV strands me after driving through water: Spends 4 months at ASC On the mentioned date, adverse weather conditions, including heavy rainfall and water clogging on the roads (water levels up to 1-1.5 feet), posed a serious challenge to driving conditions. While navigating near Richmond Road, our vehicle was unexpectedly impacted by a surge of water from the opposite lane, caused by a passing BMTC bus. Consequently, upon reaching our destination near my residence, the car abruptly came to a halt. Despite our efforts to restart the vehicle, it failed to respond (Transmission fault showed up on the dash). There have been several previous cases discussed on MG ZS EV forums where MG India has refused to honour warranty on the battery in the event of water damage. They seemed to have an unofficial policy where they made the customer claim insurance coverage even when it should have been covered under MG warranty. Several customers were frustrated and eventually forced to go along with this suggestion while some took MG to court. Was your insurance purchased via MG? https://www.team-bhp.com/news/mg-zs-ev-strands-me-after-driving-through-water-spends-4-months-asc It would be interesting to see if insurance companies published the number of ev's written off due to water ingress verus the number of ICEV written off due to water ingress hence huge increase on EV insurance premiums

BEV doesn't run the ever if water/humidity enters the battery compartment

I noticed one seller selling for B23K no soundbar but no option for delivery by seller own fleet for delicate items I prefer using seller own fleet

For Cash on Delivery new law came in from 3rd October 2024 Rights and duties of consumers 1. Open the product. The right to open and view the product according to the announcement of the Contract Committee in front of the delivery staff, along with recording evidence in the form of photographs, videos, or others by physical inspection, such as type, color, size, and quantity. If the product does not match the order or is damaged or defective, or the product was not ordered but was delivered, the consumer has the right to refuse to accept the product and not pay. 2. Rights to return products and request a refund. The right to notify the business operator to return products and request a refund within 5 days from the date of payment and receipt of the product. If the product does not match the order or the product is damaged or defective, or the product was not ordered but was delivered, with recorded evidence in the form of photos, videos, or other means, if it is true, the consumer will receive the full amount of the product within 15 days from the date of notification of the dispute. 3. Rejecting all products In the case that the ordered products are more than 1 piece per parcel, if it appears that the product does not match the order or the product is damaged or defective, the consumer must refuse to accept or notify the return of all products, including free gifts, and return them to the business operator. 4. If you are not satisfied with the product, you cannot return it. You cannot refuse to accept the product or request a refund due to dissatisfaction with the product. https://www.tcc.or.th/dee-delivery/

In the UK MG is planning to retain the name ZS for the Hybrid and name the BEV replacement MG S5

SAIC’s MG ES5 all-electric SUV debuts in China with 525 km range Built based on SAIC’s Nebula pure electric architecture https://carnewschina.com/2024/10/15/saics-mg-es5-all-electric-suv-debuts-in-china-with-525-km-range/ Think this is the MG ZS EV replacement which will either be in the Bangkok Motor show end of November or March next year

Law was changed from 10th January 2023 The announcement of the Contract Committee on the matter of the car and motorcycle leasing business being a contract-controlled business B.E. 2565, which will be applicable only to leasing contracts made from January 10, 2566 onwards. As for the hire-purchase contracts made before January 10, 2023, they will remain in effect until the contract ends. If the lessee’s rights are violated by the business operator, they can seek advice via the 1166 hotline or file a complaint via the OCPB Connect application or via the website www.ocpb.go.th 24 hours a day. https://justicechannel.org/read/newlaw51-1?fbclid= Bottom part of the website is in English

Banks and non-banks are strict about car loans, asking for a 30% down payment to reduce bad debt and seize cars. https://www.bangkokbiznews.com/finance/investment/1118155 Personally I would look at a Brand where their 2024 sales figures are not good as they might be inclined to offer you a good deal GWM sold 310 cars in August and 4,799 for the whole of 2024 GWM are offering GWM launches a campaign with 0% interest, low down payment, and full discounts and installment assistance https://autolifethailand.tv/gwm-august-promotion/ Yaris cross up to 30th June sold 19,668 its been the number 1 seller in the B-SUV / Crossover for thw whole of 2024 https://autolifethailand.tv/sales-report-b-suv-crossover-june-2024/ TOYOTA VELOZ sales for 2024 until end of July was 2,121 MITSUBISHI XPANDER sales for 2024 until end of July was 6,477 https://autolifethailand.tv/sales-report-mini-mpv-july-2024/ I have always found if a vehicle is selling well no need to offer incentives Selling a car that is under finance can be tricky as shown in this thread here

I agree with you it is more confusing when you read the op post 2 weeks ago So currently renting MG ZS B18,000 per month he will be in Thailand until next July and then possibly another year or 2 Doesn't want don’t want a big down payment or big monthly iinstallments no higher than B20K per month I assume with rental Insurance , servicing costs are all built into the rental contract and getting B600K return selling car after 3 years If car cost was B1,000,000 and you can find any dealer willing to accept just 10% down payment leaving balance of B900,000 if that was on 0% installments over a 48 month period that would be B18,750 per month excluding road tax,insurance and servicing he should expect to take a huge hit if he leaves next July if he stays the full 2 years repayments to finance would be B450,000 (24XB18.750per month) leaving B150K assuming he gets the B600K on resale

When the Uk was part of the EU it didn't stop Spain raising the Issue of Gibraltar many times as detailed here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_Gibraltar Spain tried to move the goalposts last Friday but came unstuck as their actions also affected Spainish Nationals trying to enter Gibraltar Tit-for-tat immigration controls cause rush hour border chaos https://www.chronicle.gi/tit-for-tat-immigration-controls-cause-rush-hour-border-chaos/

There is a Veloz hybrid coming out shortly https://www.car250.com/toyota-veloz-2024-10.html If your looking to get a new car without putting down a downpayment you should check out Toyota leasing scheme Kinto Yaris Cross 36 month lease B18,440 per month https://www.kinto-th.com/Home.aspx The necessary documents for consideration include: 1.National ID card or passport. 2.Work permit for foreign nationals working in Thailand. 3.Thai driver's license or international driving permit. 4.Various income documents such as the latest monthly salary slip, bank account statement for the past 3-6 months. It is possible to apply for the service without the need for a guarantor.

@LosLobo purchased a Yaris Cross recently maybe check past posts or maybe they can give you some useful tips I know that the Yaris Cross has ground clearance of 210mm which is quite high as most pickup's are around 220-225mm MG ZS has ground clearance of 177mm