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On 11/12/2019 at 11:56 AM, armadillo215 said:

Check DeeMoney....Easy, you can do on your mobile, relatively inexpensive and no gov. paperwork. You can send cash or transfer from your bank here to where ever...

Except it is too difficult to apply.  I am in Chiang Mai.  I did an online application and received an immediate email reply that someone would contact me within 24 hours to finalize the application.  72 hours later someone did but I was unable to answer the phone at that time.  I called back and was told they wanted me to go to Bangkok to complete the application!  I said no and was told someone would call me back within a week.  I am still waiting.

1 minute ago, UncleMhee said:

He can't!

which is what I was getting at with my first reply.

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Why? He could have a permit to stay beyond the visa validity date. It is only important he cancel that permission (ie have no re-entry permit).

You said a valid O-A which has its own ME (ie the the first year of the visa).  There is no way that I know of to cancel that ME.  It he is in his second year (ie exit and reenter) he has no reentry permit unless he buys one.  So if he leaves within the first year, how does he cancel that permission?

On 11/16/2019 at 10:11 PM, Max69xl said:

If the O-A is about to expire,then leave the country without a re-entry permit, and the O-A is officially invalid. Go to the consulate in, let's say Savannaket in Laos and apply for a 90 days Non-Immigrant O Visa based on retirement. Enter Thailand and after 60 days apply for a 1 year extension at the local immigration office. IF, he meets the financial requirements. 

That person would have to leave while the O-A is still valid and stay outside of Thailand until it expires since the valid O-A would have a ME with it.  This might be tricky if there are any issues with the 90 day O.

1 hour ago, BritTim said:

As you say, a unique situation. I would have thought you could find another reason why you need to leave than visa problems, especially as your girlfriend might come up with suggested solutions to those. However, I obviously do not know as much about your situation as you do.

 

Please take a few minutes to let us know whether insurance was an issue reentering with the Non O-A.

Will do.

21 hours ago, BritTim said:

You should be fine. Note that the second visa exempt entry (by land) can also be extended by 30 days so a second border bounce is not necessary.

Thank you.  I am in a unique situation (of my own making).  I am still in the first year of a pre-31 October O-A visa.  I will be reentering at DMK on the 26th.  What is unique is that I actually want them to say I have to have insurance and give me a 30 day stamp.  It is the easiest way to leave the GF, gives me time to finish my condo lease and move on.

30 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Extensions start from the end of the 30 day entry.

A new 30 day entry would start from the day you enter the country.

Thank you.

But is it alright to do an extension within Thailand and then do a border run for an additional 30 days.  I am just not familiar with the limitations for visa exempt.

US citizen arrives on a visa exempt.  Needs 96 days but can live with 90.  Can this be done?

Extend the visa exempt for 30 days for a total of ~60 days

Do a border run to add 30 days for a total of ~90 days

Do another border run to add another 30 days or try another extension, get denied and get 7 days.

Do extensions and border runs start on the day they applied for or at the end of the previous one?

2 hours ago, jackdd said:

Is there a right to stay in Thailand? Is Thailand obligated to offer a visa for every situation?

If somebody can't fullfill the requirements for a retirement visa they still have the option to buy the Thailand Elite visa.

And then next year immigration changes the requirements for the elite and makes it retroactive.

Thanks for the form link.  I still need to know how early I can apply for the extension and if it effects a later border run.

Is there a place I can download the visa exempt extension form and how early can it be filed?

Can a border run or two be done after that extension?

Is there any recent experience from someone who has reentered at DMK with a still valid (1st year) O-A.

How can an O-A (not extension and in the first year) be invalidated?  Would getting a 30 day stamp upon reentry make the O-A invalid?

Am I wrong in thinking that someone on an O-A and still in the first year would not be able to apply for an O based on retirement?

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

You would have to leave the country to get a visa exempt entry. Then apply for a non immigrant visa.

The reply to a post I quoted was due to his wife being on an extension based upon his that would end when his does and would need a new non-o visa to apply for hers. Immigration does not issue non immigrant visas for family members.

How does that work? Presumably, he would have an existing O-A or an extension of stay.  So wouldn't someone with either of those two be simply granted entry based on one of those?

If someone were given a "30 day stamp" upon reentry, what is that stamp called and is it extendable like an exempt is? 

4 hours ago, FPizzle said:

I'm totally confused. I renew again in June, 2020 (13th year). I have my monthly deposit in line and now I see this. Do I need health insurance or not?  Just for fun I checked all of the companies listed and none, that I can see, will offer insurance to a person over 70 unless it is a renewal. These are the guidelines I found for the O-A (Retirement) renewal and there doesn't seem to be anything indicating a way to get around it.  It also states that if you have insurance from overseas you will have to show proof of Thai issued insurance at renewal. As usual none of this makes any sense!

Applicant must be aged 50 years old and over (on the day of visa submission application)

This visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year each time.

Health insurance policy must have coverage not less than 400,000 Thai Baht per policy year for Inpatient, and not less than 40,000 Thai Baht per policy year for outpatient.

In the case where the accompanying spouse is not eligible to apply for the O-A visa, he or she will be considered for temporary stay under Category “O” visa. A marriage certificate must be provided as evidence.

First year, all applicants can buy health insurance from insurance companies in their owned countries or authorized insurance company in Thailand. When the applicants want to renew the visa, the applicants must buy insurance from authorized insurance companies in Thailand only. Any inquiries on completing Insurance application can be addressed at each insurance company.

Pacific Cross does.

6 minutes ago, Mango Bob said:

Have you seen any company give you your money back it you return a product here in Thailand?

 

To be honest I don't think they do.  I have not seen it on their website. 

Technically, the product has not been delivered in full yet.  Also, I don't yet know how the insurance premiums are paid, all at once or monthly.  If monthly, the question is moot. 

I am on year one of an O-A.  I will be re-entering at DMK on 26/11/19.  IF I am stopped due to lack of insurance, what happens next.  I need until 1/3/20 to either leave LOS or change to an O.  It seems that I would get a 30 stay of some kind.  What can I do to stretch this out until the end of February?

Does anyone know of Pacific Cross policies can be canceled?

42 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

There's already been a post about entering on a re-entry permit. No problem as it should because it was an existing extension. 

I have no extension. First year of O-A.

8 minutes ago, Maestro said:

 

You've got a point. We have already gone off topic by discussing the application for the retirement extension based on an O-A visa, so to round it off let's add the entry into Thailand with a re-entry permit based on this type of extension or on the permission to stay obtained with an entry with the O-A visa. It may take a while until we hear from somebody who arrives with this type of re-entry permit so that we may note it for the record.

Me on 25/11

11 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

If you really need it, it will probably be useless because of the low coverage. Paying a lower cost, in your case 45k just to have an insurance is not that smart imo. Then it's much better to change visa to an O with annual extensions when the O-A expires. 

I was planning on doing that.  If, however, what a couple of posters have said that they were forced to get insurance after a re-entry while on an O-A, I will not be ready.  I was planning on having another 15 months on the O-A with the extra nearly one year of permission to stay granted during the 1st year after a re-entry.  I do not yet have the 800K required for an O.  I do have 8 months of 100K income into a Thai bank but that may not work for the O.

1 hour ago, Max69xl said:

What's the point of having a 780k insurance and then 300k deductible? You get a cheaper insurance but the coverage is in most cases useless. 

The point is that many people MUST have insurance that they don't need.  In my case, 200,000 deductible changes my premium from about ฿75,000 to ฿45,000.

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

They would prefer to see the 800k baht in a Thai bank.

 

They all require financial proof. Either the 800k baht in the bank or proof of 65k baht income or it could be both totaling 800k baht.

I am 9 months into my O-A.  I do not have 800k in the bank since I was planning on not needing it for 14 or 15 months but I will be exiting and re-entering this month.  I do have proof of 100K per month but obviously not for 12 months.

21 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

My mate just arrived today at Swampy and was told exactly the same. Given 30days, told to get insurance, go out of Thaialnd & return within 30 days.

Why "Go out of Thailand"?  Can't he get the insurance and just go to the local immigration?