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29 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
You've been smoking for 40 years is anything clear to you..............lol
Ignoring the crash rates spiking as a result of cannabis usage suggests not
The study you provide the link to in its self admits that the "evidence" is somewhat inconclusive, and that would be clear to a blind man There is no way they can prove that the accidents were directly caused as a result of cannabis usage. It is anecdotal at best, in fact, all it does prove is that people are more likely to admit to cannabis use when it is not illegal. Don't need to be a genius to work that one out
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15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
I suggest you read my post, where did I say I drove at all? However thanks for the advice that it can stay in the body for weeks so people should be more careful.
Crash rates jump in wake of marijuana legalization, new studies showMore evidence is emerging that crash rates go up when states legalize recreational use and retail sales of marijuana.
Crash rates spiked with the legalization of recreational marijuana use and retail sales in California, Colorado, Nevada, Oregon and Washington, a new study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) and another by the affiliated Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI) show.
Its pretty clear from your post that you drove so don't try to deny it
Yeah and crash rates go up when people start driving at all ! maybe just ban cars then there would be no crashes. And if it saves just one child's life will it have been a positive move (to echo the usual arguments for banning things)
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3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Couldn't care less what you've smoked for the last 40 years. No I don't smoke, tried it once many years ago at a friends house, felt terrible, went out to the car and had to put the reclining seat down for 30 mins before even thinking about driving. Never again for me thanks.
As for my advice about not driving while on weed, yes its the obvious one that reflects my personal experience and was in response to this portion of your post below:
However its not just my advice is it. Its clearly illegal in most countries to drive under the influence as it is here. Yet most people in Thailand will take no notice of that and accident rates will go up as a result.
So after 30 minutes of being intoxicated whilst in charge of a motor vehicle, you then decided to drive despite being still intoxicated !!!! Very irresponsible behaviour indeed.!!!! The tell tale signs of cannabis use can remain in the body for weeks after intoxication has long passed so you really should have been more careful. but then again its OK for you just not for others?
And then you come on here to give me your "informed advice",,,,,enough said
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50 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:Still didn't see anything good for sale in Samui. Is it possible it's still illegal here as they tell me in the one bar I found selling max 1cm tall stale colorless buds with a few seeds for 700B a gram?
I found an excellent seller on twitter, he always has a few varieties and I tried 4 from him. All absolutely top notch huge lovely smelling buds, super fast shipping and friendly service. Prices from 330B to 380B. I'm saving a fortune it doesn't take much of this to be satisfied, probably using less than half the amount I previously was when buying the inferior 700B stuff.
Considering the quality, I think 380B is a fair price. I have seen some nice looking buds for 200B on a facebook advert will try these next.
Samui was not an independent state last time I looked, so I can't see that it is still illegal there However I also wouldn't take to much notice of what they tell you in bars especially ones with a vested interest in lying to you. The police may also try to call your bluff but in reality there is nothing they can do. they will invariably try it on with people they perceive to be naiive and they will back down if you stand your ground on this matter at present. Just make sure you are not guilty of anything else at the time !!
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40 minutes ago, KhunLA said:
Since the one site has sold out, and since restocked, I'd say more than a few are quite happy to pay 700/gr (-10% promo) delivered to their door for free.
Not myself of course, but I also won't pay 100 baht for a beer either, unless it or I, am somewhere special to warrant it.
Ah but are they really sold out, or is it a clever marketing ploy ??? Totally agree about beer prices , spot on
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32 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:I wasn't asking permission to respond to you, just giving you some facts whether you like to hear them or not is your choice, you can put me on ignore
I've smoked weed for over 40 years, you obviously don't smoke and therefore are not qualified to advise me or anybody else on matters regarding cannabis.
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1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:How would he know if he's not tried it before?
Possibly the same way that so many non smokers of cannabis seem to think they know so much, yet in reality know so little
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1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:
Plenty of sane, logical and non hysterical advice out there. Here's one, don't drive after smoking weed.
Here's the reality, most people in Thailand will take no notice of that and accident rates will go up as a result
Thank you very much, however when I want your advice I will ask for it
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17 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:Unless the market price for bud starts dropping and dropping quickly, I shall be force to set up another false GoFundMe page again.
The one about my kids walking 5 kms to school in the rain with holes in their flip flops usually draws out the kind hearted 'save the world' liberals.
Try saying that you jumped into a swimming pool with no water in it, I think that raised a significant amount
Im sure market forces will eventually prevail and prices will drop soon I am used to paying over the odds back in the uk but now I resent paying anything more than around 20bt per gram, and I doubt i am the only one
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19 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:
Sorry, the site is not very clear.
Even though you have informed me that the price is for 3.5g, I cant find any indication of the weight for this price.
However, the 3.5g price would make more sense.
Which brings me on to my next question:
700 Baht per gram, Who the hell is paying that?
If you click on the picture of the bud it opens in a larger window and the price per 3.5g is written in small letters just above it.
As regards to your second question... God only knows, some must have more money than sense! I paid 10b / gram for some excellent "brickweed" from shopee which really hits the spot
I guess Its like another poster mentioned ...the same people who pay 5000 bt + for wine
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Noticed this morning on the Amarin TV news ( channel 24) They now have a sign on the news desk A black cannabis leaf on a yellow background with words to the effect that Gancha is very dangerous if used incorrectly . Fair enough I thought, although they offer no advice as to how to use it correctly Some of my Thai friends often use the word "yellow" in the same way english speakers use the word "whitey" No doubt that is why they used the yellow background
I just watched a report about a gang of youths staging an impromptu road race on a public road right through the middle of a village, at least one was killed, but they didn't feel the need to warn the "vulnerable teenagers " watching that it is dangerous to use a motorcycle "incorrectly" I wonder why
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27 minutes ago, ezzra said:
No wonder... Go figure what they put in them rolled up joints, they can put and filler they like and you take it to your lungs...
I'll educate you they put Gancha in joints.... there now you know,
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19 minutes ago, pomchop said:
Young stupid people with little or no pot experience do indeed overdose on edibles just like young stupid people overdose on guzzling booze. And yes pot dealers have been known to lace <deleted> pot with cheap speed etc to be able to sell more . The problem with edibles improperly used is that anti pot crowd will point to edible od problems to try and claim that pot is oh so dangerous and all pot should be banned.
You might want to educate YOURSELF a bit with google ...and ps being stoned for 30 years does not impress me.. you are not the only person who has smoked pot you know?
Have you never found it strange that without exception websites like the one you provided a link to only ever publish a list of horrendous effects resulting from ingestion. They NEVER list any positive effects for example "pleasant relaxation" as an effect !
Can you not see that the reason they are so selective with the truth is because they have an agenda? If what they wrote was so accurate, its a miracle that anybody anywhere ever bothered with such an unpleasant toxic substance.
AS far as I am concerned these websites which often quote the name and "qualifications" of an "expert" in an attempt tp legitimise their scaremongering claims have absolutely ZERO credibility !! I have yet to see one that provided clear information in a non hysterical way and practical advice to those considering usage
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30 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:Just looked at the Bloom Express site:
Orange Pie is sold out @ 2,450 per gram.
Who the hell is paying that?
calm down bert thats actually the price quoted for 3.5g (still well over the top though in my opinion)
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Was just looking at geenlabs website all very "professional looking" wonder who's the influential guy behind that ? certainly doesn't look like a temporary thing either and that's possibly something to be optimistic about regarding future availability . It will certainly appeal to the more "well-heeled" customer
However I hope any future legislation doesn't squeeze out the smaller guy's firstly as I rather prefer the more down to earth experience (and prices) of shopee or getting it off a local guy, met some good friends that way over the years too. And secondly because its not fair if the economic benefits that were touted for all are monopolised for the usual suspects, especially if legislation is used to achieve that aim That would be bad for users too But allowing people to grow 10 plants is also a positive sign and I doubt that will change
Also if chintzy shops start popping upon the highstreet it might just help to dispell the "dirty pothead" image that the prohibitionists like to project
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On 7/2/2022 at 2:23 PM, bstafford214 said:
We have to remember this is how the country has always been, regardless of which type of government. You must first have common sense, leaders who think about consequences and what responsibility is needed. This country takes no action on underage drinking, smoking, riding motorcycles and wearing helmets, so why would they have any laws about underage smoking of weed? Then after making the laws, nobody will do anything, not the police, only waiting for bribes to let there child go after being caught smoking.
"Young people held up placards asking for tough penalties for law breakers and protection for the nation's youth. One in a white face mask had a big marijuana leaf." I think his mom was in front of him making him do that in the photo.
This will be interesting now, what will happen to the youth? 55555
hahaaha that absolutely looks like busted teenager forced to attend by his mother...Brilliant Observation
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On 7/2/2022 at 1:23 PM, Bert got kinky said:
Now there's a thing, years ago when i was younger back in the 70's we always used to pass spliffs round, sometimes it got a bit ridiculous with maybe 5 people and six spliffs going around, then one day it just kind of stopped, don't remember when, but all of a sudden we just smoked our own, and anybody who did pass a spliff round was considered a bit weird. Not a bad thing really as some people had really sloppy mouths and there was nothing worse than a saliva soaked spliff
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3 hours ago, daveAustin said:
No you don’t! These individuals who think they know what’s best for people and take away choice and freedom make me puke.
Absolutely spot on
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12 hours ago, TunnelRat69 said:
May I suggest a half glass straight lemon juice, that should loosen up your tongue enough to cure 'speechlessnes'
Guess you don't know me at all, a lot of my quotes are in jest, tongue in cheek, and well, I wasn't replying to you.
Peace
If it was really a lounge in cheek then maybe I should retract my remarks. But I still think that considering the level of ignorance and what almost boils down to bigotry regarding the matter in question the use of such clichés is not very helpful
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25 minutes ago, lemonjelly said:
Bumping up the potency of cheap weed of low THC with synthetic cannabinoids from China is a problem in some European countries already. The industry need some regulation, for the customers’ sake. Whether the army has the apparatus to test for such chemicals, I don’t know.
You are talking about "spice" , it does not provide the effects that cannabis users desire and would be avoided like the plague so there is no future for that either . "Spice" itself only exists as a direct consequence of prohibition
If people were just allowed to grow their own there would be no black market, no "mafia" involvement. no profits to be made, and no need for any regulation. It would in effect be exactly the same as growing your own tomatoes
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It would be a waste of time and money adding "normal" cocaine, as cocaine in its standard form cannot be smoked (well you could smoke it theoretically but it wouldn't have much effect) it needs to be crack cocaine and seeing as its not grown in Burma it would be prohibitively expensive. Certain kind's of heroine can be smoked but the effects would not be what users of cannabis are looking for so another waste of time and money That allegation is therefore discredited
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11 hours ago, ezzra said:
The under statement of the year... does anybody here or even in the whole of Thailand, knows exactly what you can or can't do with the weed, or what are the precise laws regarding growing, keeping using and selling Marijuana i'd like to now...
You obviously don't smoke it so why are you so eager to know? thinking of reporting somebody?? Or are you considering dealing ?
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you can look on shopee but bear in mind the progeny from seeds are not identical, once you have grown one that you like , cuttings are the way forward
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21 hours ago, sambum said:
So if you smoke pot you are "indecent"?
Also if you have a back pack according to some
Pattaya police reportedly aid man on Pattaya Beach who allegedly suffered health issues and a panic attack after smoking a joint
in Pattaya News
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Well for starters nobody is "adulterating" weed to increase its potency, where are the news reports of that ? why on earth would they? as its not what smokers want and would not be tolerated, and as for pesticides they may well be used I guess just like they are undoubtedly used on most of what you eat ! that is something we just have to live with unless you have got a solution , which I doubt, as your sort never have'
"Serious nut jobs talking down to people" well you are certainly "serious" and you certainly seem to think its ok for yourself to talk down to people in your little rant, there are many people on this forum who have never been anywhere cannabis and haven't got a clue what they are talking about yet insist on spewing out rubbish, fuelled it would appear, by their fear of the unknown They actually seem to feed off each other, and its almost a pathetic competition to see who can come up with the scariest and / or most ridiculous fear mongering theories born out of pure ignorance
As far as road safety is concerned the impact of cannabis will pale into significance compared to the impact of alcohol. two completely different substances which affect people in completely different ways. Speaking from personal experience throughout the last 40 years I've driven 1,000,000s of miles over 3 continents with a spliff in my hand and have never been involved in or caused an accident (guess I'm just lucky eh?) But I haven't noticed any additional cannabis related carnage reported on the news and if there was, the media would be on it in a flash so its obviously not happening
And then there's your "predictable concern " for the youth of Thailand and the effects cannabis will have on their development ! somewhere along the way , no doubt due to your simmering outrage you seem to have conveniently overlooked the fact that cannabis is not legally available to people under 20 years old (even though they can drink, marry, procreate, vote and indeed fight for their country when younger than that) Or are you concerned that teachers might suddenly start turning up to work stoned?
Finally were are the people who continually castigate and criticise the Thais ? well I wondering that my self , and have come to the conclusion that they are currently too busy castigating innocent and responsible cannabis users who for your information have been lighting up without worrying too much about being arrested And with regards to exam results etc , no it isn't my problem or yours for that matter and anyone who thinks they can change things has delusions of grandeur
I find the general tone of your little rant very condescending you seem to think that everybody other than yourself is unable to control themselves and the whole country is about to descend into your self imagined reefer madness scenario,
Strangely I don't know one person who has decided to break a lifetimes abstinence and partake of cannabis due to the relaxation of restrictions, how many do you know? I'm not saying there aren't such people but they are in the minority there has not been and will not be the descent into Sodom and Gomorrah that you and your holier than thou buddies predict
Another obsession of the prohibitionists seems to be their perception and obsession regarding the strength of cannabis and their unfounded belief that cannabis users will uncontrollably crave stronger and stronger varieties. more absolute rubbish and again very condescending, One said on here that it is now 100 times stronger than "before" you really could not make it up.
Presumably you enjoy a beer ? do you continually crave whisky ? are you unavoidably drawn to Absinth or even Lao Khao? Have you found out the hard way....?
Peoples concerns are absolutely based on government funded propaganda and reefer madness hysteria as they have heard nothing else for nearly 100 years .Its actually impossible for the prohibitionists to base their fears on anything else People seem to ignore the somewhat unspectacular relaxation of restrictions in the more forward looking countries Holland Canada etc where society has not descended into hell on earth as you are predicting here
You really need to stand down off your soap box and give people some credit for common sense and the ability to control themselves
Yes there are plenty of things to worry about if indeed you are the worrying sort, the traffic safety concerns you have, will no doubt be addressed as I'm sure will your educational development worries, but it will be done by the Thais in a Thai style which is something you don't seem to appreciate, but unfortunately for you, due to your location, it is something you are going to have to accept