Bday Prang

I'm glad somebody else has noticed this, I thought it was only me who had spotted it

You are probably right, but if somebody did behave like that my first response would not be to establish their occupation, That is the most irrelevant detail in this case, or at least it should be

Those were the police's words not mine, its actually not inconceivable that they would have charged her before all this went "viral" They are after all currently going after big joke himself , many who consider themselves above the law get surprised here. You are right, he is stuffed. Do I care ? not at all but I am not in favour of the holier than thou keyboard warriors on here effectively forming a lynch mob

True enough, technically speaking, but I like to think that physically removing a drunk who was urinating in my garden would not render me liable for deportation especially if I was wearing the obligatory mask ( i would probably wear gloves too) However I would fully expect to be vilified on here, in fact I would look forward to that

But the position of the steps is relevant, before the location was identified as public land the police mentioned the possibility of charging her with trespassing which they themselves stated is subject to stricter penalties than the very minor assault. Had those steps been on the private land this would have been a totally different story

I don't think anybody refusing to join the lynch mob is trying to cover for him or excuse his behavior , More like they are just trying to create a sense of proportion.

That somebody did care about the extent of public beach land is a result of ongoing complaints regarding this matter Its not uniquely specific to this incident. Many developers including those building large resorts and hotels have been found to have crossed the line into public land, especially in beachfront locations, That's not really his fault , but it certainly hasn't helped him

Dave may or may not have known , Personally I doubt that he knew one way or the other, he doesn't own the house or the land and he has possibly never even seen the deeds, and even if he had , it would be impossible to establish exactly where the boundary lies. from the tiny layout plan that they would contain. I very much doubt there would have been a note on the deeds clarifying this. I also think there is a strong possibility that the estate agents dealing with the letting would not know either, and neither would they have mentioned it if they did, "Property for rent with private beach access" sounds a lot more desirable than "Property to rent with illegally constructed beach access" Estate agents are not unknown to be economical with the truth(( With the exception of those living in condos or farang style housing estates I very much doubt that anybody knows for sure exactly to the millimeter, where their (wives) land ends and their neighbours begins Ok its no excuse to behave like he did but its also no reason to adopt an open door policy to all and sundry "just in case" As an aside I have personally seen the land department called out to establish land boundaries and they appear to be more than willing to agree to "adjust" the position of survey markers for a "fee" under normal circumstances most Thais do not argue with them

No i am not that was pretty clear from the wording of my post, it obviously was to all except you, there's always one though isn't there?

And this was only established after the event, unless you know differently,

A baying lynch mob generally pays little regard to detail, once fired up the facts are irrelevant to them

It would appear that a "real" doctor has issued some sort of report claiming she is suffering from stress. However regardless of whether she is or isn't, only the most naive of people would ever believe that she would have any problem obtaining a medical report which would confirm whatever she wanted. Especially bearing in mind her occupation, her fathers position, and the current media frenzy

Or maybe his woman ran off with a DJ and he harbours a deep seated resentment of them Or more likely he just wants to join in with the lynch mob and indulge in a bit of virtue signalling

Indeed we are all a lot wiser after the event,

I have clearly stated that I do not condone his behaviour, but your uncontrollable urge to virtue signal and join the lynch mob seems to have clouded your judgement. Yes Thai beaches are public land, but many accesses to the beaches are private property and legally not accessible to the public. The house he lived in was on private land. But any body with half a brain would assume the steps were built on private land as the Thai authorities are not in the habit of constructing private beach access to beach side properties, Any access from a private property to the beach would be constructed by the property owner and should have been located on the private land. The fact that the steps encroached onto public land was not known at the time by anybody involved in the incident, Thai people, contrary to what you think do not inherently know where land boundaries lie that is a matter for the land department and would be established by a surveyor When she sat on those steps she would have assumed they were private property but chose to do so anyway. Immediately after the incident the police even suggested she could be charged with trespassing which actually carries a more severe punishment that the minor assault that occurred. Of course this was before either the land boundary, her occupation, and the identity of her father was established Now you can stop making excuses for her too

I actually agree with you, but in the same way that some people get a bit territorial regarding land boundaries others can show scant disregard for what they think is private property. At the time , in his mind, "allegedly" these were people he had already recently chased off his property I don't condone his behaviour but to a degree I can understand his frustration if, as he claims this had happened before.

At the time of the incident nobody involved was aware that the steps had been "illegally" constructed on public land, as far as they were all aware they were private property, This does not excuse the swiss guys behaviour, even though he thought he was in the right, but neither does it excuse her sitting on what she would naturally assumed was private property

But at the time she must have assumed they were private property, who wouldn't?

Even with glasses they all look similar, especially at night

Due to the excessive media coverage of this I doubt any court would deliver a sentence considered as "standard" for this sort of incident. Whether that works for him or against him remains to be seen

But she could not have known that at the time.

That is when hideous looking men dressed as and claiming to be women are referred to as "Mr" or " him" I believe its actually a criminal offence in some countries

But anybody, with a modicum of intelligence would naturally assume that the steps belonged to the property they lead to The fact that they were on public land was only established later. So as far as the presumably degree educated saintly doctor was concerned, the steps would indeed have more than likely been private property, but she still decided to sit there in the full knowledge that she was probably trespassing Whilst Kicking her was obviously unacceptable , to claim post traumatic stress as a result of what happened, really makes a mockery of those people who are genuinely suffering that condition as a result of a real traumatic experience , Like those who have been "misgendered" for example ! I shudder to think of the living hell those poor unfortunate souls must be going through

You don't know much about cats do you?

A porn film with impotent actors ? You have to be kidding