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Yes, not far behind the legalization of cannabis, which you said would NEVER happen. ???? https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/does-thailand-need-casinos-study-to-be-submitted-next-month

Fair question.

Sometimes I'm out on weekends, sometimes week nights. For sure weekends are busier, but I would not describe Pattaya as "thriving" "rammed" "packed" or "booming" even on weekends. In my opinion, Pattaya is not back to 1/10/19 numbers.

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I agree. Many are propping up "the dream" with their savings, but eventually the money runs out, or they sell at a fire sale, or walk away. I simply make the point that, just because a business remains open, despite constantly have very little customers, doesn't mean it's viable, let alone successful, and such businesses are destined to close. Interesting for those that poured a lot of money into new builds. Eg. The Warehouse, Bling, High Rollers etc. That's a lot of money to recoup, after expenses, let alone, turn a profit.

Never had a property, business, or Thai girl friend. Never sent money for a sick buffalo. I have nothing I can't walk away from and head straight to the airport, should I ever need to, or want to. I suppose you found optimism in the shut down of the world's economy due to covid, and now the war in Ukraine, and it's effect on the global economy. You continually troll and are off topic.

But if I have bought a 3 year lease, paid 3 years of rent up front, also paid 3 years of key money up front, because I am still open 18 months later, despite having no customers, I must be doing something right. The business must be successful because I am still open. Right? ????

I don't put "skin" into a 3rd World Country that's a sham democracy.

I'm starting to think the UK should have remained in the EU and asked for a bail out. ????

Unless the government defaults, then all bets are off.

After which, the moto taxi driver said to Mr. Tony, "You pay me 60 baht for your friend." ????

Did the guy who hit another guy in a gym here with a dumbbell, breaking his eye socket, which needed major surgery to save his eye, get the deported? I believe he had to compensate the victim, but not sure he was deported, even for causing such a serious injury.

If the company truly wants to create "an onboard experience" as stated by HammerMan, they definitely need more rooms, otherwise, it's just transport that takes hours, that is more expensive than flying with an airline that flies out of a nearby airport, and only for expats wishing to take a vehicle, which is a small segment of the market.

As I have said in another post, YOU claim "Pattaya is thriving." Yet, you haven't been to Walking Street, nor Soi 6, and no doubt, many other areas. You post that you went to 2 bars on Soi Baukhao, and just as before, declare Soi Baukhao "as busy as 2019." As I said, many businesses relocated to this area, most likely due to cheaper rents, so it will be busier than it was in 2019. Another example is Tree Town. Of course it's more busy than in 2019 because it was basically a patch of dirt in 2019. ???? Tree Town comes at the expense of Soi Made in Thailand. Danny's Sports Bar being an example. Get around Pattaya's nightlife scene more and perhaps you will see it's not back to pre covid, low season, 2019 levels. I posted the numbers for you. 40 million tourists in 2019. 3.78 million to date in 2019. You are posting fake news.

So, they set up their own social media channels, but are not on forums such as Pattaya Addict and AseanNow, both being very popular for information on Pattaya / Thailand. A little naive, kinyara. Sometimes it's easy to spot with a thread title: "Where's the best XYZ in Pattaya?" It's usually followed by some posts from members with low post counts posting, "ABC on Soi #." Followed by similar low post count members posting, "I second ABC for the best XYZ." We saw during covid how these business owners all got around to each other's businesses promoting them through their own channels, for each other. It happens on forums as well.

Ok, st there are only 15 rooms onboard, and a percentage of those 15 rooms would be the 17,000 baht a night rooms. Say there are 10 or 12 of the more affordable rooms available, and you don't think one should book well in advance to secure one of those rooms. Why is that?

The member stated "Pattaya is thriving." The member admits he has not been to Walking Street, nor Soi 6. When asked where he has been, it turns out he had been to 2 bars on Soi Baukhao. Since 2019, most probably due to lower rents, we have seen businesses relocate to the Soi Baukhao area. Thus, I don't doubt this area is busier than it was in 2019. A little like Tree Town is more busy than in 2019 because in 2019 Tree Town was basically a patch of dirt. ???? If Soi Baukhao is busy, perhaps busier than 2019, but Walking Street, for example, is dead, is Pattaya "thriving?" Walking Street is Pattaya's biggest tourist attraction, yet the member who claimed "Pattaya is thriving" hasn't been there.

Yes, it's just a large hotel, with some residents. Newly completed The Edge next door, is also advertised for daily rental. Apparently, allowing thousands of condo's in Central Pattaya to be used as daily rental hotels has no effect on the profitability of nearby hotels. ????

Not everyone, just the ones constantly talking up the the nightlife here with words such as "thriving" "rammed" "packed" "booming" etc. Pattaya is far from that, and even the tourist numbers I have just linked in another post show this. Now, there is a looming global economic recession, so that "bounce" back this coming high season may not be a high as many in business owners here would have hoped for, or need. Getting back on topic, this is why, in my opinion, there will be more closures here in the near future. Some members continue to derail the thread, and I have no problem humoring them. They continue to personally attack me, yet post ZERO links to support their opposing stance. As I have posted in the past, all those businesses here for sale, without a buyer, will not continue to remain open. The point comes where continuing to pay rent exceeds what they may sell the business for, if lucky, so the doors close.

One of many articles about it. Dated August 2022. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-saw-378-million-tourists-jan-mid-aug-govt-2022-08-19/ "Thailand saw 3.78 million tourist arrivals from January to Aug 17, a government official said on Friday." "Last year, the foreign arrivals plummeted to just 428,000 because of the pandemic, compared with a record of nearly 40 million in 2019, contributing to about 12% of GDP." So, 40 million tourists in 2019 to 3.78 million tourists so far in 2022 and YOU say tourism is back to pre covid levels. That is comedy platinum. ????

You don't, neither do I, but TAT do. ????

The amount of untruths, inaccuracies, and deceptive posts here, particularly by those with obvious financial interests here, needs to be called out. I make no apologies for doing so.

Another member posted there are 15 rooms onboard. I didn't cross check it. If that is incorrect, how many room onboard do you say there are? You keep playing the poster, not the post, which shows your ignorance.

Ranging from 9,000 baht a month to 39,000 baht a month with this local agent. https://www.pattayabayrealestate.com/map-search/?lang=en&keyword_search=The+Base&filter_search_type[0]=condo&filter_search_action[0]=rent&submit=Search&is11=11&advanced_city&advanced_area&bedroom&minimum-size&property-id&min-price&max-price&wpestate_regular_search_nonce=48bdbec94a&_wp_http_referer=%2F

So, you are saying the number of tourists in Pattaya today, being the 29/9/22, is comparable to the number of tourists in Pattaya on the 29/9/19. Where are the Russians? Where are the millions of Chinese? The numbers are nowhere near low season 2019 numbers.