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They put up some research data on the news tonight that people who were dying from covid would have on average have lived another 10 to 17 years had they not been infected. 

Just heard on another forum from a well connected member. Who states it is now confirmed that they will not issue any extensions to existing visas without an embassy letter. Without you will have to leave the country when the amnesty expires. Even if you have not had a previous extension prior to the amnesty. 

How many rolls of foil to you go through a week to cover your head ?

I read an article that 2 studies had show that approximately 70% of males that have died from covid 19 were bald or had male pattern baldness which is mostly related to high levels of androgens. Potentially indicating that it may make you more susceptible to severe covid 19 illness. 

8 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

It is a bit of both plus that the surge in cases in the south & west have been disproportionately in younger people as that is who rushed out into bars etc when they reopened.  What remains to be seen is whether this will be followed by a spike among older people. They do after all often live in the same family.

The death rate often peaks several weeks after the rise in infection numbers, probably too early to tell yet. Though one Texas doctor i saw on the news stated the patients they are seeing now are ten time sicker than patients they were seeing in March/April.

22 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

thailand certainly has a bee in its bonnet about healthcare. i'm sure this happens in many countries, especially popular tourist destinations, but the adverse financial/economic cost is far outweighed by the income from tourism, the situation just needs to be monitored and managed effectively.

 

my australian inlaws were over a few years ago and needed hospital treatment, they were given the excellent care that any uk citizen would receive, they should have paid, were billed, and said they would pay, however they just skipped off home. i have no doubt this happens all the time but is managed by the uk government without bureaucratic measures being applied to tourists, because guess what? the uk wants and welcomes tourists as they are a great source of income for the country.

 

however every country has the right to deal with domestic issues as they see fit, and as i said, healthcare is a very sensitive issue for thailand.

Doesn't the UK and Australia have a reciprocal Health Agreement 

Great compilation of the Legendary Thai Brake Failure

Manufacturing down 25% Tourism down 80% that is  just international. exports down. Looking like a minimum 15% contraction

21 hours ago, Sujo said:

I cannot believe they live amongst us, all because they dont want to wear a mask.

 

 

God help America. But looking at this it may be beyond help

3 minutes ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

The idea that herd immunity has to be at 60% and up to get any results is completely false. Think about it for a moment - who are those 6% who already got it? They are the people most likely to get it because they have the most contact with other people. There are significant portions of the population that have less contact with others who wouldn't get it even if they're not immune. Think elderly, kids who stay at home, stay at home moms, unemployed basement dwellers, and anybody who self-isolates. In reality you need closer to 20-30% to get herd immunity as the virus will just die out if it can't feed on the population most likely to get it. In places like New York and Stockholm they're basically done with it - it's dying out - and it's not due to "social distancing", it's due to the fact most active people already had it. There won't be a "second wave" there. For the rest of the world - yes - a second wave is coming and there will be a third and a fourth if they don't just let it runs it's course.

So the stay at home mum never goes to the shops , the basement dweller never  takes delivery of his pizza in person and the elderly never get visits from their family ? I think you are just changing the science to suit your own narrative. There still is no consensus that those who have been infected will retain immunity long term so its still very much a hypothetical that herd immunity can even be achieved. Its still way to early to think that its still over for places like New York or Sweden.   

1 hour ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Will this include Americans?  At the rate they are going they will be testing herd immunity by August!

Not likely. If current estimates of people who have had the virus at ten times known cases is correct that is still only 6% of the population. Still another 54% to get to herd immunity. Some areas might get there quicker then it will just move on to other areas. Its pretty much a runaway train in the USA now. Who knows what the final destination will be. 

On 6/29/2020 at 9:45 AM, Henryford said:

Still less than 1% of annual global deaths in a NORMAL year. What's all the fuss about?

Give it another 6 months through the Northern winter and then we will look at the numbers

19 hours ago, dbrenn said:

There have been dire prophesies of Thailand's impending doom for the past 30 years, but the place nevertheless goes from strength to strength. 

So a country that cant afford to feed the people is going from strength to strength ?

So the average spend is approximately $1400. Sounds a bit on the low side to me if that includes all accommodation, meal, drinks and shopping ??

Maybe the disaster is yet to come if they open the borders too quickly. 

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

Second wave - bad news in Australia. All looking good, then in last 2 days some increase in numbers allowed in restaurants, sports, family gatherings etc.

 

Very quickly in Victoria in 1 day 25 new infections found, next day 10, also bad numbers in NSW. 

 

There's a long way to go yet....

What bad numbers in NSW ?virtually all in NSW are hotel quarantine cases. 

Do they not know that the projections are that the second wave will start around the 1st of September in the northern hemisphere. It is projected that that daily deaths in the USA will go up from 800 per day to 1800 per day in September alone and continue to rise through the northern winter. 
There won’t just be passengers on the planes. 

The projected Covid19 cases for the Americas and Europe in the northern fall/winter period do not look promising. you can probably apply that to the whole northern hemisphere. Thailand should just effectively write off tourism for this year and work on how they can stimulate the economy domestically or they will end up becoming the next big casualty.

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