UncleMhee

7 minutes ago, zaZa9 said:

I was told outright by a Retired Immigration Officer on Monday that the law is written clearly enough and it says that Insurance is NOT required for existing Retirement Extensions based on an original O-A Visa  and any office saying its required is , "Not doing correct thing ."

This is what all on pre October 31 2018 O-A's would like to know unequivocally......well I would at least; before May would be good!

Thanks for posting @britishjohn; but anecdotal doesn't cut it. Just sayin'

LH menu..... non "O's" are listed; just not retirement.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/hochiminh/en/services/2886

14 hours ago, MagnumForce said:

 

Many thanks. Joe.

 

Just to confirm, there is no online appointment system at Savannakhet, like there is at Vientiane, right?

 

MF.

There is no online appointment system at Savannakhet,

My understanding of TW procedures is the money must come from an account in your name. That's it, end of story...... As for borderless accounts last time I checked baht was not on the list of available currencies; so again not an option.

9 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Really where can I buy it then?

Google is your friend...."email lists for sale".

How many pages you want?

2 hours ago, tgw said:

Aaaaah, I was waiting on that kind of politically correct passive-aggressive smartass reply. And without fail, it came!
Well, I can't do it because I didn't get any email from "Grace" so I don't qualify for lodging a complaint.

That's just a politically correct excuse for not taking action on something You personally see as being wrong. 

If it doesn't affect you personally, let someone else do it? Says a lot really!

7 minutes ago, tgw said:

will someone have the balls to lodge a complaint with the cybercrime division of the RTP?

Grace has to eat too......as for complaints; why don't you do it? Worried about the possible fallout?

And this thread is news because......get a life! TIT

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I choose to believe that when my body dies my life force returns to the creator ( as with all living things ). Otherwise what is the point of living a life as a human? Better to just be a cow or something and not know anything.

So in your world humans are the only animals that are sentient beings?

I'm sure that's a comfort to all of the other animals suffering ill treatment trying to find the best way to avoid it. 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From nothing we came, and to nothing we return, our lives have no meaning, no importance, we are nothing? Somewhat dismal belief, surely?

I choose to believe that we are more than nothing, but that is only possible if I believe that we are part of something greater than us mere mortals.

Quite a convoluted argument you have going on there with youself because.....in truth; we did come from nothing and to nothing we will return. That statement is Fact!

Our lives have no meaning, no importance, we are nothing......if you have no self esteem; that will be the case, and cause of having dismal thoughts because of having no belief in yourself or your abilities. Another Fact!

The last part of your argument doesn't require you to choose to believe or kid yourself about anything (same thing BTW); because taking part in the much greater pantheon of life, ensures that we are; and is also Fact. At least until you're dead and fade to dust! 

To the OP; this is an official site. You asked the question, here's an option. Can only give it a go. Yes or No!

3. Channels to submit application

Applicant may submit their application at the Royal Thai embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General in their home/residence country or at the Office of the Immigration Bureau in Thailand located onGovernment Center B, Chaengwattana Soi 7, Laksi, Bangkok 10210, Tel 0-2141-9889.

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O-A"-(Long-Stay).html

31 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

An issue is what is he using the agents for. The provide numerous services.

I think the OP has already stated what he wants to do; so I suggest that is what he's going to use an agent for.

52 minutes ago, Why Me said:

converting from tourist to non-imm O based on retirement

Which channel he may be looking at using out of the agents handbook, I respectfully suggest is none of our business; and to ask is going directly against @CharlieH has already warned about.

22 minutes ago, elviajero said:

That said I don’t see why people get their knickers in a twist about emails from Grace that seem to offer a useful services to expats!

Not all do, just the ones who don't seem to understand where they are.

4 hours ago, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

Or maybe the simplest explanation: I can imagine, without straining myself too much, that there's "something in it" for Thai immigration off the top of the insurance industry's income stream. 

And I can imagine, without straining myself too much, that there's "something in it" for Thai immigration off the bottom of the agent industry's income stream as well. 

There's only one winner out of this!

TIT

25 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

 

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So seriously...if you do have positive knowledge of "the real thing" and true "Source", then what are you doing here? Why not share it and prove it and be on the World's Stage...CNN, Oprah, BBC, etc...with your Nobel Prize, fame and fortune? Helping the world with all your knowledge and included benefits. 

I'm here because the real thing is so simple it's laughable, easily ridiculed and trying to break through 2000 years of prejudice and dogma is an impossible task. The pope's, bishops, pastors etc. who have bought the lie to convert others, are not wont to give up their power so easily.

People who can, already understand; people who can't, will never understand.

"I am the way, the truth and the life; follow me". My personal interpretation is thus; by following, you do and act the same way through following your own conscience, which is the only trustworthy way to know what the will of God, Source, etc. truly is for you. Nobody else know what your requirements to serve or do are; only you. 

Besides it's not about getting rich monetarily, and as it couldn't be discerned as a universal truth from a messenger then; why should it be any different now. People generally love to weild power over others in all sorts of situations. Well you won't get away with that <deleted> with this little black duck.

Follow your own, and keep a clear conscience; and let others do the same. 

Eg. Just because I can eat pork and you can't doesn't make either one of us better or worse than the other; it only makes us different from one another.

"They" may consider those uninsured on OA visas more likely to leave the country after running up medical bills, and in some cases that would be true. The same as in some cases people choose to overstay, while others use agents; though not for expediency.

And yes, if you live here 24/7/365 your connections to the country are definitely stronger; the argument though is somewhat tenuous if the only time the O-A holder leaves is for one weekend in two years to get the second year. Then only has a month at home having organised the main documents; police check online. It's then a rather simple matter of putting the application documents together and getting another visa and returning having been scrutinized in a different way.

2 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Just for entering the country while the visa is valid a foreign insurance will be accepted, if you have the "foreign insurance certificate".

I think of my printed policy as a "foreign insurance certificate". Or are you talking about something else. 

I think it maybe a can of worms on your 2nd year entry where an IO may deny you because of not understanding the original policy actually lasts two years. Hopefully i'm wrong on that! Of course it could be clarified and noted on the visa by the embassy.

4 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

According to Billy Graham, "then we would have been like puppets, unable to choose between right and wrong.

Except we aren't like puppets, we can choose right from wrong; but what proselytes don't understand is right & wrong isn't some universal law, it's individual. If you see something I do with a clear conscience, as being wrong; that's on you and your problem. That sees you as judging me and no one will judge me.....And that's why in the end people who think the same way as that will have the last laugh, because people like you will be told, "Truly, I never knew you". 

Narrow is the gate....the keeping of your own clear conscience my friend; not going out and about proselytising and stealing the God given individual minds of all others. May He have mercy on All of Your Souls!

8 hours ago, EricTh said:

I think it's the first 2 years that those people with OA extensions who didn't need to put any money into Thai banks that's the problem. During this time, if there are unpaid medical fees, the Thai hospitals have to bear the costs.

Yes you are correct. That is the situation.

However as insurance is now required on all new A-O's; if allowed to use insurance sourced from their home country for the full 2 year period of visa.......issue solved. Many here seem to think they're hard done by having to have the money in the bank here. Hey.....your visa, your rules, your choice.

To get an O-A every two years we must have the same financials; plus with allowed mandatory insurance from home we'd be covered better than uninsured O visa holders who aren't required to have it; and many won't.....going on the numbers talking about changing because of the requirement. Lay off the O-A bashing eh!

53 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

So...what's your point? 

Speaking in tongues.....

1 hour ago, Xaos said:

There is no planets and earth is flat...

....there is no more dinosaurs either.

29 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

I would not be using an 'agent' to try and bribe an IO ( truthfully that would be the only 'function' of an 'agent' in this case). Giving people advice to break the law (facilitation to corruption) is both irresponsible and idiotic.

Good for you.....ever been between a rock and hard place?

You don't understand Thai culture or business practices well do you? 

Take a look around you.....you no longer reside in a western society with all of it's holier than thou attitudes. Not that the same practices you so despise being advocated here don't apply there.

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