RedPill

14 minutes ago, brain150 said:

There is no Pandemic !

There is a huge media propaganda campaign and criminal Governments making people <deleted> poor !

 

And there are hundreds of Scientists and Doctors all around the world now to back up this claim !!!

At first I was against these kind of thoughts ... do the right thing ... do everything 'I' can do to help and not make it spread. 

After 6-7 weeks, doing all what we've been told to do ... and looking at the numbers here, whatever those numbers are ... there are no crowded hospitals or dead ppl stacking up.

I start to change my mind and start to agree with you, or at least, start to think more serious and critical about it. Maybe there is more truth in what you say than what i thought initially.

The fact is, all the older generations, who can stay at home, have some sort of steady income .... will agree, stay at home.

That was the whole point in the beginning, protect the older and weaker members of society. 

But not that the complete world is going down and the future of all others, who can't just stay at home, is getting destroyed.

No one knows why it didn't spread here like it did i.e. EUR or US ... but one thing I start to believe, if it would had spread here, it would have done it in the same way ... regardless of the restrictions here. Which were more or less the same as every where else (except the alcohol ban).

I don't know why ppl talk about Farangs and alcoholics.

Yesterday I saw the neighboring Thai resort owner arriving with 5 boxes of Singha and 3 boxes of Leo.

Their business was shut down for weeks ... alcohol sales is open ... what do they do? Including all the mom & pop shops etc.?

All the news and pictures show Thai's making a run ... to get their hands on the boxes, before it might get banned again.

Sounds very logic to me. I would do the same, if I would have a catering/hotel business in Thailand.

Who created that issue? And no one is even sure what really caused the fact that there was no real outbreak here.

And all the drama and restrictions, look at the Air Asia crew uniform these days?

When, where and how will this end? For the people who are 'not' pensioners with a steady income or have savings?

What are they supposed to do? Stay at home forever?

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I ignore COVID because ........

1) I think I already had it (along with 3 out of 4 of my family).

2) I'm prepared to take the 0.15% risk of death in order to live a normal life.

3) I'm happy for you to stay home and never go out again, in which case you'll be safe.

4) Living in constant fear of death is probably worse than death.

 

It's not a case of being an expert, it's a case of not being stupid.

As for Darwin, I've already had 5 kids, my life is already near it's and, I am ineligible for the award.

 

I agree with you. It was ok for 4, 5, 6 weeks ... but this can't go on forever. The WHO can stay at home ... they have the money ... not everyone in the World can. People start to go on to the streets. I really hope for the countries who lose restrictions, that is goes ok ... and all follow.

18 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Alcohol sales in countries where there has been no restrictions have soared during the pandemic. For example, UK sales are up about 33% and the US up by about 22%.

 

A lot of people are spending money they don't have on Alcohol, all over the world. 

 

Please explain why the ban was a bad idea? 

 

The policy to limit sales per customer is a great idea.

 

 

It has soared because of a beer in these countries?

No one knows why it exactly hasn't soared here ... you can just be lucky it hasn't. Otherwise it would have been a pretty bad picture, with or without alcohol sales.

Social distancing has a lot to do with it, IMO ... but a strict alcohol ban, was not really the reason.

You can ban any groupings get together, whether on the beach or anywhere else ... with a cup of thee or a beer. 

10 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Alcohol sales in countries where there has been no restrictions have soared during the pandemic. For example, UK sales are up about 33% and the US up by about 22%.

 

A lot of people are spending money they don't have on Alcohol, all over the world. 

 

Please explain why the ban was a bad idea? 

 

The policy to limit sales per customer is a great idea.

 

 

Freedom ... ppl want to live in freedom and make their own decisions.

No one got infected by having a beer with his spouse at home ...

People got infected by snuggling up, hugging, handshaking, kissing for greetings etc.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Nope, that is Tesco limiting how many people can be in the booze section at any one time.  There are no limits to how much you can buy.

So does the poster have a link to the news with limits on how much alcohol one can buy, or did he make it up?

Ok, sorry, I thought that was what was asked.

The remaining ... is just the typical 'clear' situation ... 15 day ban, no a 30 day ban ... now it's only a 2 day window, tomorrow it's lifted completely, now a threat is will make a u-turn again, if you don't behave.

And some ppl on here want to argue and wonder why so many make a run as soon as it's available, on Day 1.

3 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Do you have a link for that?  I don't see that in any news anywhere.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162996-tesco-lotus-sets-new-procedure-for-alcoholic-beverages-sales-amid-covid-19-risk/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-15381894

20 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Not just here, but across the world world governments are exploiting the fear generated by the media-manufactured panic-demic to expand their control over our lives. 

 

This is what they really mean when they talk glibly about things never returning to the way the they were before COVID 19 became part of our lives.

 

Our biggest problem won't be defeating the virus, which will peter out eventually no matter anyone does. It will be telling powers that be where to stick their "new normal" - and showing them we mean it.

 

 

I agree with you.

People start to go onto the streets already, everywhere around the world.

What do they say? Give me my freedom, or give me corona. I don't care.

Last week in the US, in Spain, and yesterday in Holland ... 

Tesco's opens up, alcohol for sale again ... what do they do ... they run for it, stock up. Either for their business or personal consumption.

You will see this turn coming ... ppl have done a lot over the past weeks. Until they don't take it anymore. 

Their jobs are lost, business are down, their near term future destroyed. 

You can obey all the rules ... which you think makes all sense.

It's easy to say if you are i.e. a pensioner, with a steady income stream, or you have savings, to sit it out.

But not for the people in their 20's or 50s, and their business is shut down for weeks, jobs lost. That has a much bigger impact on the 

way they behave. And soon, it either opens up ... or they don't take it anymore, go onto the streets and don't care about 150cm . My guess. 

25 minutes ago, transam said:

I will have to rearrange my gray cells to find that one....????

Because it was just a nice discussion about a topic ... so many things changed meanwhile.

54 minutes ago, Almer said:

But not when the rules say you cant, send me a reply when the curfew is extended, beer is banned from sale again and shops  are closed again due to mindless people "not following the rules" that i and many cant understand the reasons for, but if they are not followed backwards we all go

Yes, I understand that .... and I also don't disagree. I also obey these rules. I do it since 7-8 weeks now.

What I am talking about is ... people making a run, and why, in "general"?

It's just expected ... if you have half a brain, you can forecast this.

However irrational it is.

I didn't buy a box of beer yesterday, but I saw a Thai resort owner arriving with her pick up, 5 boxes of Singha and 3 boxes of Leo.

Where did that come from?

They have to pick up on their business again ... it's all been shutdown for many weeks! They have to make a living.

First day open, what do they do? They run to Macro, Tesco etc. to stock up ... plus all the private people on top who have been denied to 

buy a beer for 4 weeks!

Matzzon wants to brush all these people off as alcoholics ... completely off this world his opinions.

His opinion:

Planning ahead, maybe put measures in place (as Tesco's did today) ... no ... refused as an argument.

You are an alcoholic. Everyone who buys a beer is an alcoholic. Period.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

How true.......

I even had a discussion with your about bar vs tesco's, remember ????

How many weeks back was that?

1 hour ago, Zikomat said:

One more alcohol-related topic. 

One more news on the topic ... it's just 1, 2 days that this restriction got lifted.

Should it get ignored, not reported by TVF?

I think it's great piece of news. Well done Tesco.

39 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

This could have easily been controlled by the supermarkets.

Good ... prepare for the masses ????

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162996-tesco-lotus-sets-new-procedure-for-alcoholic-beverages-sales-amid-covid-19-risk/?utm_source=newsletter-20200506-1255&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

@Matzzon .... what I was talking about and looked for, is forward thinking, by ppl who put rules in place and loosen them up, and how they do it. With respect to 'what you can expect is going to happen, on Day 1 of a lift of a alcohol sales ban.

You however, just sit there and label everyone an alcoholic and shoot everyone down who goes into a shop buying a can of beer!

I'm really happy you are not the president of this country! ????

1 minute ago, transam said:

Sadly the army rules because the others robbed....????

Good one, made me laugh ????

7 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

This could have easily been controlled by the supermarkets.

Yes, agreed. This was expected and you could place some measures in place.

Just now, Kaopad999 said:

Try google search, plenty of cases of Farang and Thai breaking curfew rules.. 

I know that ... but it was just to get clarification on that one statement/post. Which he already did. All good.

3 minutes ago, RedPill said:

The reality is that there are not that many.

The reality is .... there were many! 

That's why it hit the news ... and triggered the PM to make this announcement.

Are you daft, blond or just ignorant?

I'm talking about the masses, and expected mass behavior... and the masses are 'always many'!

2 minutes ago, lee b said:

Also this bulk buying wont last for ever, but people including businesses need to restock. They were not allowed to for the last few weeks.

Exactly. It won't last forever. It's the expected thing to see on Day 1.

But some ppl can't look through this and have to label it all 'alcoholics' .. the complete nation!

And meanwhile others, put in a threat to ban again. 

Go figure.

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Careful, Mazz wants folk like you deported, and I ain't joking............????

.... then he has to deport half of the nation, too, because if I look at the picture ... I see Thai's. All thinking the same thing I just posted above ... normal, or expected mass behavior ... I get as many boxes of beer as I can (or toilet paper), before it runs out, or get's banned again.

9 minutes ago, Almer said:

Addressed to the idiots who decide  to do whatever whenever they like, so the "you idiots" referred to anybody who risks extending or continuing the current rules at great expense to many, meaning, the thai families who have no work etc due to continuing rules.

Ok, so all the Thai ppl who 'run' on that alcohol in stores on Day 1 are all idiots? 

Or was that idiotic behavior created?  

Because just a few weeks back, it was the most normal thing, as long as I can think, the most non criminal thing, to buy a beer in a shop.

2 minutes ago, Yankeesvsredsox said:

At least they haven't ban social and news sites on the internet ,like they have in the past

... that would have been pushing it, for a country claiming to be a democracy, changing uniform for suit & tie ... keeping up appearance ????

1 minute ago, Almer said:

I think the booze ban was lifted to clear stocks now you idiots who are  abusing curfew and lockdown orders are playing straight into the big bosses hand

Who abused curfew and lockdowns? Who are the idiots you are referring to. 

A little bit more detail pls, otherwise I don't know how to read your statement correctly,