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It has nothing to do with any opinions I would make. Is there something wrong with being a moral thinker, thinking women aren't objects but our equals? Are you saying it's okay to pay a woman to use her body for your pleasure? I'm not even getting into the dangers these women are put through but just the obvious. Just because people do this makes it right? Again, I'm not judging but just saying this is how it is, and how it affects others. It doesn't matter what I think anyway. What matters is if this is a right thing or a wrong thing. Of course people who pay for sex are going to say it's right, and that's the problem. It's all about them and not how it affects the women and men involved. Does it make it right because some people believe its so? Or is it a wrong thing that others think is okay because they like the endgame?

You need to stop assuming how smart other people are. Guessing you know who someone is is just a guess. And it doesn't matter anyway because his replies are right, as was Patong's. And changing your username doesn't make you autistic.

What would men do if prostitution didn't exist? Of course it does but I'm asking. Morality going down , like the breakdown of the family, has caused most of the world's problems. Of course a person can choose to do whatever they like, but those choices always have consequences. Keeping this trade alive is keeping the numbers of beaten, drug addicted and killed women and men who are involved in the trade going. A lot of people who pay for these girls and boys don't see the other side of their lives. The control, abuse, breakdown of the body due to drug use or the ones found in a ditch somewhere because the client was a psychopath. Many serial killers target prostitutes because they have no connections to family, and are soon forgotten. I think many who buy these girls don't understand what's behind the closed doors of their lives. Yes, many get into it from low self esteem and have no pimps and work as bar girls for more money than they would get at a 7-11, but their reputations are shot, and if they have kids? The john doesn't care, because after he gets off, he goes home. No conscience makes the world a hard place. Judging? Not my place but Gods. I just don't like women, nor anyone, to be treated as meat, whether it's in a marriage or a pay for play. A man can always have one girlfriend after another, much the way a player works, and not many see the wrong in it. I'm hardly a prude but I think morally. I went after a couple when I was a teenager, but none afterwards because I always was able to find a girlfriend. Most didn't last, as most relationships do, but I always looked for a relationship. There is a right and a wrong in all facets of life. People who think prostitution is a harmless activity aren't seeing just how wrong it is.

And there are those that stay because they love, respect and enjoy each others company and the bond hey created, which isn't a transaction but a commitment.

One point you're missing I believe is that most of what I, and others have said here, is that prostitution is bad, especially for the women involved, and I posted a link showing why they get into it, and what happens to them when they do, whether it's by force or coercion. I didn't say people who go after prostitutes can't get a regular woman as many are married to good women and feel the need to cheat. Many are bored with their women because they aren't giving her the attention she needs , and punish her by going after a woman they pay for. Like I had mentioned, there is absolutely no reason a man has to go after a prostitute as there are millions of women out there who would love to have a good partner, and would fulfill their needs if they only treated her with the respect she deserves. A man that goes after a prostitute when he's married is plain wrong. A single man who does does so for a number of reasons. Control , seeing many of these working girls are abused or killed, and he feels the need to hurt a woman, maybe because he hated his mother or a wife did him wrong before. Maybe he thinks he can't attract a young girl because he's out of shape or plain looking, and this is the only way he thinks he can get a pretty, younger girl. Not true of course because there are untold numbers of nerdy, plain looking men with pretty wives. Some think they deserve many women because they might be handsome men, but they don't understand no one deserves a good woman unless he's also a good man. A good man doesn't need to go with a prostitute because he will attract a good woman with his good attitude and how he carries himself, and treats others. Again, there are millions of beautiful women out there, so what's the need to pay for sex? There are those who will justify their actions because others do the same as they do, so of course it's okay. I think many don't see the very dark side of prostitution and only the pleasure they get from it. Of course there are many who only pay because of this pleasure and don't intend to hurt the girls and only get off, but the next client may do them harm, or worse. It happens every day all over the world, and many of these girls, and boys, are forced into the trade by disturbed money chasers, and forced to do drugs to control them. Many are coerced by parents because they are sick individuals that only look for the cash they can get. Many are in it because they had a home life without a fathers love. A woman doesn't have to go into this trade because she likes sex. That kind can get laid anytime she wants. It's not normal thinking to sell your body. There are other ways to make a living, and low self esteem gets many into this. The other side is the john, who by paying promotes this trade and keeps it going. Without them there is no one hurt from it because it won't exist. If prostitution didn't exist, what would the men who use it do?

Because he disputes people who are into prostitution and agrees with Patong, like I do, he's autistic? Again you assume you know others, just like you did a few minutes before, thinking my wife left because she was "tired" when It's I who had to divorce her to bring my daughter back where she belongs.

My ex wife stayed because I treated her better than she's ever been treated before or since, and this is why she still wants to come back. It's always better to refrain from commenting unless you know the whole truth of the matter. I've tried explaining this to you before, and again now, but I'm sure you still won't get it, as your thinking doesn't match my logic. All wives will stay if they are treated well, even if the money's not that much, unless they are gold diggers or mentally ill, or suffer from depression, which makes them over think and second guess themselves. And how can you comment when you always pay for your women, in a much different way than I and others who have a relationship do? Yours are transactions, while mine and others are a relationship. Most adults understand the difference.

If you think every one of them is drivel, you surely have seen where he mentioned he's married, and has had experience in these matters before. Again , Patong summed it up pretty well, but there are those that are into this kind of lifestyle, and can justify their actions, no matter how off they might be.

No, try keeping up. She hit me because she was mad at others and kidnapped our daughter four times because she was raised in an abusive and neglected home, which makes one a covert narcissist. This is someone who hates themselves and others because they never knew real love as a child, so they take this anger out on others who happen to be empaths. People they can try to control because they have no control over their emotions and only know hate. Shes been, after me, with two Thai and one foreign man, who she's visiting now. The other Thai men beat her up because she tried this behavior with them. One threatened to kill everyone in her family because of how she is. She wants to come back to me, but I'm not the one who stays with these types long, so I leave. I got tired of her so now you should understand.

DNA evidence is used to prove parenthood in Thailand. The child is 50% Swedish and 50% Thai. The child is a Swedish and Thai citizen. If you want the child to have a better life, keep him in Sweden.

With that attitude, she'll get tired of you long before you get tired of her. Only lazy people with unrealistic expectations get tired of their partners. Also those who always look at women as objects to be used instead of appreciated.

Taking care of a wife and also children, isn't funding but a responsibility. Funding is a transaction done between a prostitute and the man she wouldn't sleep with unless the cash was there. Everyone pays money for everything, but taking care of someone isn't a transaction.

Most do if the cash is there.

One thing you might do and I'm pretty sure no one would mind, is trap it and bring it to the Vet to be neutered. This will lessen it's aggression measurably and it will probably just stay away because it's desire will be gone. You obviously like cats so hurting it isn't in your thinking. It's just being a cat, and most animals here should be fixed anyway as most people don't care about them .

How do you know it suits them? Unless it's a transaction. If there wasn't something called sex, what would a woman be to you?

Life , especially a long life, gives you knowledge and wisdom, if you're not closed minded, a narcissist or an abuser, and think only of yourself. If you want more variation, try initiating it. Another one assuming they know what "most" people do. People from the beginning of time looked at sex and love as separate things. The same holds true now, and it's why the world is a toilet. They can go together, as millions have proven, and be satisfying. A partner isn't just there for sex, but to be a companion to grow old with, to have someone you can really trust and share life with. Not just go get off in. Some people will never understand this because their parents didn't teach them properly.

Swingers are also people who are missing something in their relationship. One reason is that they have never figured out how to romance their partner the right way to have them open up to being affectionate with them. Others are just cheaters who married for financial reasons and stay because of that. Some think their wives aren't giving them enough sex, so they look elsewhere, also probably because they aren't being attentive to their partners or listening to them the right way, which is a problem with many men. If you don't have the ability to be with someone and look at them as a partner and not an object, don't get married, because it's not part of the definition of marriage if you need to look elsewhere.

Do you live 24/7 with all the expats that live here, that you can make a statement like this one?........................"Hear, hear. And...most, if not all of them, are massive hypocrites because, if they are living here long term, the chances are that they have experienced short times by choice! " No, then I guess I'm not assuming but right on about my statement..................."And what you have actually seen here isn't but a fraction of one percent of who does what here or anywhere else". ............................ I would think there are surely some hypocrites here, but not near all of us, nor most, that live here. Am I assuming or do you actually know what everyone, or most everyone, does here?

And what you have actually seen here isn't but a fraction of one percent of who does what here or anywhere else. If you don't live with someone 24/7, you know very little about them besides what you do see and hear, and hearing means very little, as people are prone to exaggerations and lies. You assumed that most, if not all, expats here dally outside of their partnerships. The truth is, you know almost nothing about what other people do outside your own house, unless you are told by others, who also again, exaggerate and or lie.

I don't make opinions much, They aren't facts, which is what I go by.Take a few minutes and read the link I posted, although it might not make you think if you already are in the mindset that prostitution is okay behavior.

Another justification for bad behavior and also bragging about it. Most everyone does stupid things when they are younger but grow out of that thinking once they hit middle age. A woman who cheats on her husband loses everything to a player that couldn't care less what she is or what she does, as long as he gets off in a woman who has no morals, probably blames her husband for what she does, and goes back home to that same thing., until he has enough sense to leave her to her ways and find a woman who actually loves him. If the husband is doing the same thing, they deserve each other and shouldn't get others involved, as hurting a decent person is an incorrigible thing to do. The player wins all the time, because he cares for nothing but his own pleasure.

I'm sure you couldn't care less but you might want to read this...............https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/prostitution-sexual-violence

Yes, many are voluntarily there, because of a childhood without direction, or being forced by "parents". A behavior, selling your body for money, IS abhorrent and nothing to do with my opinion. It's your opinion that it isn't.

I feel sorry for a lot of the girls who are forced into this trade. What I would like to see is those responsible getting their freedom taken away for a long time, so that others thinking of selling girls, and boys, for profit, would think again if the penalty was a prison term taking away much of their life. Those forced by parents also. What kind of human garbage tells their daughters to do this so they can profit from it? Money justifies most anything, and people looking at women as objects to be used is despicable, although they have their cronies who will stick up for them.

Another assumption by someone who actually thinks they know more than just a few expats and what they actually do here. Many who live here long term are married long term. What they do is still not known by anyone besides themselves and maybe their partners. Maybe. The only person you know about is yourself. I've been here over 6 years, had a wife, now ex, and a girlfriend now. I would never go to a sex worker for any reason, seeing I don't like the idea of getting a disease, which with them is a much higher chance of happening, and would much rather be in a relationship where I look at my partner as a partner and not a purchase. Everyone pays something of course, but it's hardly the same with an actual girlfriend.