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1 hour ago, still kicking said:

1 hour ago, Lucky Bones said:

am 64, nearing 80.

Can I be a part part of this conversation?

Welcome you are younger than me 

 Welcome, of course!

I think when I was 64 I was also nearing 80.  Now at 81 I feel like I'm nearing 64.  I look forward to 64, not backward to 80.

4 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

It's impossible for me to imagine sexual intercourse at age 80. 

 

In fact, it's impossible for me to imagine in-out in-out even at my comparatively tender age. 

 

I just find it less than exciting, thinking of 80-year-olds, with their huge yarbles and yarblokos, doing the old in and out. 

 

Why should I demean myself in this way? 

 

 

 

 

I think this is the core of the feeling that bothers me.  Why should sex demean you?  Why should old/young sex be funny, inauthentic, ugly, or improper?  Something about the old in and out?  There are so many ways of enjoying contact with another.

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Here, my GF does not care how old I look. She is still quite happy to sleep with me, and she has a vested interest in keeping me alive for as long as possible.

Same here, but let me parse this a bit:  My GF isn't oblivious to looks or unconcerned.  She will respond to a haircut or particular piece of clothing with a complement "you look good."  She'll approvingly say I look thin or "skinny."  She says she likes my white hair.  She thanks me for sex, but keeps to her own schedule (not everyday).  She has a vested interest in keeping me alive, but she knows I'll care for her alive or dead.  And I'm sure (as you must be) that her interest in my health is emotional, not financial.

Further, when she mentions age, it is her age not mine.  As she enters her 40s, she says she is getting old.  When I asked if a particular person was older than me, she said, "I don't now.  How old are you?

23 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

When you were 38 years old, did you fall in love with an 80 year old woman ?

No, but when I was about 38, I had a  date  with a woman also about 38 who stood me up in favor of an 80 year old man.  And no one laughed.  Even when she married him.  His name was Cary Grant.  

Unfair perhaps, but we live in a patriarchal culture which makes some elder men more desirable than elder women. 

I am no Cary Grant, not even an Archie Leach, but none of my friends or family have been anything but entirely supportive of my relationship with my beautiful GF 41 years my junior.

So why the laughter?  Why do we assume that a 38 and 80 yr old can't be real?  Thais don't assume that.  My GF's parents, siblings, and friends don't assume that.  

My point was that we also live in an ageist culture: one which puts undue pressure on age as identity.

12 hours ago, RafPinto said:

On 11/25/2022 at 6:15 PM, PeachCH said:

'm 80. Eat supplements, eat healthy food, stopped smoking and drinking alcohol. 

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But I hate to get older. Fortunately my wife is 42 years younger and don't care about my age.

Your wife is 38?

 

Must be true love.

Cue laugh response.  This has to be funny because we all know that a 38 yr old cannot possibly love an 80 yr. old.  

If Jerry Mahoney will forgive me for saying so, I have blood tests every 6 months.  The last eGFR was 75.  I'm 81.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

There are any number of gurus in their forties and fifties claiming to have found the elixir of life. AFAIK not a lot in their seventies and eighties.

Dr. Sinclair has proved anti-aging effects of a couple of organic compounds in yeasts and mice. That is a far cry from humans, allow me to observe we are somewhat more complex organisms.

When Dr. Sinclair can produce peer-reviewed research that proves taking pharmaceuticals prolongs life in a statistically significant population of humans when compared to a control group, I might take notice. Until then, I refuse to be a lab rat.

What you don't seem to understand is the side effects of almost all medications are more pronounced in the elderly.

Point taken.  But your bar is too high to ever take advantage if he's got something.  Meanwhile I submit my own happy experience without negative side effects as lab rat.

14 hours ago, BigStar said:

16 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I looked up Dr. Sinclair's website. The number of drugs and supplements he takes is quite astounding.

Dr. Sinclair is 53 years old. If he gets to my age (79) without seriously damaging his kidneys with the cocktail he consumes, I will be very surprised. Perhaps not, as I doubt I'll be here by then.

Recently, in a discussion on a fitness-oriented Twitter feed about health/longevity gurus whose appearance hasn't aged well, Sinclair was mentioned as an example. FWIW, of course. Paleo guru Mark Sisson looks great, but he's always kept extremely fit (former athlete) and he's on TRT.

I recommend Sinclair's book, which incidentally is quite readable, and you guys dismiss it without reading it because you know it's too much for his kidneys and because someone on twitter might have mentioned that he didn't age well?  If you look at his photo and videos online, btw, you'll see he looks quite boyish.   Unless you're focusing on one of the other David Sinclairs on the image page for the name.

About 30 yrs ago when I was 50, I had lost interest in sex.  My wife called my attention to testosterone treatments and I dismissed the idea.  I thought I was better off not caring.  About the same time I started seeing a psychopharmacoligist who discovered by way of a blood test that I had low testosterone.  She prescribed testosterone (androderm patches) and I've been like a teenager since.  Only happier and more satisfied than I was in my teens.  Now my 40 yr old GF is the one who needs coaxing.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Viagra and Cialis were originally developed to treat hypertension. Their use for erectile dysfunction came later.

For someone with normal blood pressure, both drugs can give rise to hypotension, symptoms include dizziness, fainting and nausea.

For years I took daily cialis, flomax, and finesteride, for prostate hyperplasia.  A new urologist said I should only take two of the three.  So I dropped flomax because I have long felt happily vigorous with the cialis.  I have low to normal blood pressure.  

46 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I absolutely do not understand why anyone would take any pharmaceutical when they do not need to.

Metformin has side effects such as nausea and diarrhea. It also has the potential to cause lactic acidosis, which in turn gives rise to severe kidney damage. When did you last have an eGFR measurement?

Avoiding Type 2 diabetes naturally is simple. Stop eating any form of sugar, lose weight and eat foods low in carbohydrate load. Execution is more difficult for those without mental discipline.

As I wrote above, I do not have diabetes 2.  Not even close.  I am thin, eat well, and avoid sugar.  For the reason, see David Sinclair's LIFESPAN.  It's a case for glucose and calorie reduction extending life.  I can't do the medical argument justice in a post but I urge you to read it.  I've been doing it for about two years and feel great.  Everyone says I look younger.

In the previous post I seemed to join a developing debate about over reliance on chemical vs natural cures.  That was not my intention.  I agree with previous posters who press the importance of diet and exercise.  Drugs are not an alternative.  But some drugs can provide an additional boost.  One in fact that I use is metformin, prescribed for diabetes 2 which I don't have, but recommended in David Sinclair's "Lifespan:  Why we age--and why we don't have to" for life extension.

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Alas, the last time I used pharmaceutical boosting it almost killed me, so had to give it up. Pity, as it had worked to give me a sex life after my prostatectomy for a number of years.

Do you mind explaining?  This sounds too important to just drop.  And did you consider an alternative?  The pharmaceuticals I referred to are Androderm, a testosterone patch (2/day) and Cialis (5mg daily).

If you’re able to return to the issue of your age:

Let me respond to two of the comments made in this thread to my fellow octogenarians.  One imagined the 40 yr younger GF eagerly crossing each day off the calendar.  The other suggested a “nudge nudge wink wink” incapacity.  While either of these is always possible, neither is automatically a product of a particular age.  My nudge nudge behavior is less energetic than when I was 20 but I would wager more satisfying to my partner than when I was 40 or 60.  That thanks to modern pharmacy, greater confidence, and greater emotional maturity.   Regarding the life pacing, my GF counts off the days we are apart, but not my days on the planet. 

I'm 81 and planning for the future all the time.  I'm hoping to marry my 40 year-old GF and get a home with her in Thailand for cool seasons plus.  I expect she will live with me summers in New York.  In the meantime I expect to visit her 3-4 times a year for a few weeks each time while I continue to care for my wife at home with Alzheimer's.  In denial or ignorance, I tell people (and myself) that I'm on the 140 year plan.

Responses like "80 is not perfect but" tell me that change is not going to happen.  And blaming the "concrete jungle" is not the answer.  It's true that paving the planet reduces air quality but I live in the original "concrete jungle" (Manhattan) where the air quality now is good.  Speaking of which, the prior prototype for poor air quality was SMOG as in Los Angeles in the '70s.  I remember alerts for children to stay indoors (as in Bangkok today) and the rare day when you could actually see the mountains from the very unurban Westside of LA.  Since then LA has become a dense concrete web.  But the AQI is in the green.  Change happens in response to Will and Policy.

My search for a home in Hua Hin has recently been stalled by my coughing, scratchy throat and my discovery of high air pollution numbers.  Like the authors of the AQI site for HH, I assumed that “it stands to reason that Hua Hin could definitely improve its pollution levels, especially as a coastal city which is subject to stronger coastal winds that should by most standards blow away a lot of pollution.”  My question is:  Can it?  Will it? Are there plans to curb pollution levels attributed to motorcycle exhaust, open fires, and other human causes?  Or should I just look somewhere else (like Phuket)?

On 10/17/2022 at 4:41 AM, swm59nj said:

The Moderna vaccine given here is not the latest version . It does help but does not have direct protection against Omicron and the newer variants.  
The latest Moderna version has been available in the states I believe since last month. 

This is correct.  I got my 5th Moderna a month ago in New York as soon as it became available. I asked the nurse if I would be better with a Pfizer to mix things up and she advised continuing with Moderna for its better results.  I'm 81, in reasonably good health, and still wearing a mask in many places now in HH (though not as many as my 40 yr old GF would like).  

What is the best way of bringing it over?  I've always done Wise transfers but is there a better way?

I would think most farang, like myself, would be put off by the threat of violence,

When my GF hit 40 (in Thai years) during the pandemic she said she felt old and "didn't have too much feel."

I said that was unacceptable to me, who wanted more, not less, loving at 80.  Since she said she too would like to increase her feel, I advised her to get hormone shots.  She did and seems to be getting more frisky.  Certainly less menopause as doomsday talk.