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A journalist named Vaughn Hillyard posted a Tweet calling out trump's lie about 'thousands turned away' along with a video of the courthouse area that had cars rolling down the street in front of the court, unimpeded by anything. Hillyer noted that in the viewer area across the street from the court, he counted a total of one trump supporter. The video shows ample room for thousands of people, but the total, including cops, was about 3. (The Tweet and video can be found on X at @VaughnHillyard) I can help donny out here, however, by stating something about large crowd size that is absolutely, 100% true: trump drew the largest supporter crowd ever of any ex-President on trial for schtupping a porn star and paying her off to keep quiet. Now that crowd might only have been 1 person, but the record stands until broken. Though not quite as impressive as Cy Young's 511 wins, it is a record unlikely to be broken by anyone other than trump himself. Somewhere on the order of 85,000 people in the NYC area voted for trump, but it seems they did not answer his clarion call to come show their support. Maybe they've all driven down to DC for his Capitol attack trial, or down to Georgia for his Rico trial, or Florida for his stolen documents trial. Frankly, the trial should be on TV. Not sure why NY State would prevent the taxpayer from seeing what their tax dollars bought. Watching the trial would also give outsiders more confidence in the verdict, when it comes, and allow the law to control the narrative, rather than trump and his Tweets.

For a good chuckle, one should try to find the leaked Business Plan for Fox, written by Roger Ailes. Ailes was of the view that lesser intellects were not being well-served by media thought to be too high brow and complicated. He argued that dumbing down news into simple black and white concepts would draw society's lesser lights, perhaps most all of them. Individually they might not represent an attractive demographic for advertisers, but collectively they would be large enough to draw ads. Murdoch bought into Ailes thinking, and Fox "News for the Rest of You" was born. Obviously it has the largest market share, because more high brow media splits its audience, while Fox---and now with some competition from OAN and Newsmax---captured its target demographic. Fox let its success go to its head, however, and seemed to forget that lying can carry consequences. Tucker---now fired---was unveiled as merely a Performance Artist who 'shouldn't be taken seriously' (his lawyer in court). Dominion got $787 million from Fox for spreading lies, and an ongoing $2 billion lawsuit by Smartmatic could hurt Fox even more.

In the interest of accuracy, it was Bernard Shaw: "The skies over Baghdad have been illuminated" The late Shaw was in a Baghdad hotel room with Peter Arnett as the first Gulf War began.

There is absolutely nothing likeable about trump. He was born with a silver golden spoon in his mouth, lied and cheated his way through life, and was never---until now---held accountable for his criminal and immoral behavior. He is a moron but can fool the naive into thinking he's smart; he's a bad businessman, but can fool the low IQ crowd into thinking he is "self-made". He knows nothing about the founding principles of the US, nor the sacrifice many have made in service to the nation, yet if he molests a flag at a CPAC shindig, his goobers think he's a patriot. He calls those who served and died "suckers and losers". He mocks the disabled. He's a racist and misogynist. He claims to be a person of faith, but is the Poster Child for engaging in all of the Seven Deadly Sins and breaking at least 9 of 10 Commandments. I'm not religious, but then I don't pass myself off as a person of faith. That the US Talibangicals buy his schtick says just how stupid they are. My primary beef with trump is that he is 100% self-centered and couldn't care less about the US. He practices pure projection, meaning everything of which he accuses others is what he regularly does. You want 'weaponization'? We can call this my opinion---so no LINK, but I know it as fact: on 23 January 2017, he sent Jared and Bannon to CIA HQ to find out what the agency was capable of doing in terms of eavesdropping, and how trump could use it to go after US domestic critics. Pompeo was the new DCI at that point, so it was up to the agency lawyers to read the riot act to Bannon and Jared, and report back to trump that what he hoped to do was illegal. Oh, and I bet you think it's 'pure coincidence' that the IRS did aggressive audits of both James Comey and Andrew McCabe in the same year. That is weaponization, and just evidence of more trumpian projection. Call this opinion, too, but on 21 January 2017 trump tried to avoid a Code Pink protest on PA Ave (middle aged women seem to scare him, as other Code Pink protests sent trump running into the White House bunker), but came out to agency HQ in Langley, first met with SIS officers (where he spoke for 30 minutes solely about how great he wanted everyone to believe he is), and then stood in front of the Memorial Wall in the lobby (where we all have friends memorialized), and told the audience again how great we must believe he is and how he had just had 'the biggest Inauguration ever' (a lie...not even 20% of the crowd at Obama's in 2009). trump had bused in a few loads of new White House staff, had then seated in the first three rows, and had them howl and cheer his every boast. Real agency folks had to sit behind and listen to his silly talk, though a good many said "eff this sh!t" and walked off. Finally, when trump lost in 2020, he: 1) stole highly classified documents that jeopardize both natsec and the identities of clandestine foreign assets. It had to be assumed everything in those documents was compromised, as his club is open to anyone who can pay the $200K initiation fee, which means hostile foreign intel operatives such as the MSS. He lied about returning what he stole. 2) He pressured State officials to change the actual vote, obviating democracy 3) He (allegedly) was intimately involved in the Fake Elector scheme 4) He called his morons to DC for a pro forma certification, and then told them to march to the Capitol and 'fight like hell', an act that resulted in 140 injured police officers and almost resulted in the execution of the Vice President---and all the while he sat on his bloated backside doing nothing but egging it on more with his Tweets. After some of his terrorist mob were caught and convicted, he calls them 'hostages' and 'political prisoners', when they are just scum. That you support him despite all of this (and lots more) is proof that it is YOU who suffer from TDS. Tell me, how do you justify his criminality? Oh, and what are his policies (not his silly slogans, but actual policies), that have you climbing up his backside in fawning sycophancy? Real <deleted> can be seen if you go look in your bathroom mirror.

As usual, trump left the courthouse Tuesday and began lying about security and crowd size, just as he lied about his Inauguration crowd size. There seems to be something about trump and 'size' which makes him prone to wild exaggeration and cover up of reality. Maybe Stormy will clear that up. Per the Independent (and many other media outlets) this is what trump posted on his Truth (sic) Social: “Thousands of people were turned away from the Courthouse in Lower Manhattan by steel stanchions and police, literally blocks from the tiny side door from where I enter and leave,” Mr Trump wrote on Truth Social on Tuesday. “It is an armed camp to keep people away.” There is zero truth to trump's Tweet, or whatever his lies are called on his TS platform. According to journalists covering the trial, anybody can walk right past the courthouse steps. There is security present, but plenty of access to the area. It isn't even one block, much less "literally blocks" as trump lied. Perhaps---and I'm just speculating here---that after sending their kids school lunch money to one of trump's PACs, buying some trump NFTs and Golden Sneakers and an autographed Bible, his cult doesn't have enough for bus fare to get to NYC. trump is going to have to choose: either his goobers come and show support, or they continue to send money to his PACs to pay his legal bills. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-dubiously-claims-thousands-were-231951200.html

Maybe the defense will argue trump is so tiny in that regard that 'technically', it would not qualify as sexual intercourse. That might catch Stormy off guard and she would be forced to agree.

A TV pundit, who may or may not be correct (though he was a DA in NY State), noted that what sets trump apart is that he falsified business records in order to influence an election. That is particular to NY State, which is why the trial is there, and not in Federal Court. Others who falsified business records, even those charged with a felony, were not running for any office. Sadly, trump's delay delay delay strategy is what made this the first of his indictments to go to trial. The easiest one would have been the classified documents case, as there is absolutely no possible excuse for all of what he stole, and subsequently lied about. That also cost the intel community time, money and assets, as it had to be assumed that all of what trump stole was compromised by hostile actors. Clandestine assets may have had to be ex-filled. Such an assessment of damage is difficult when a few documents are assumed to have been compromised; when it numbers in the hundreds, a major portion of the intel community has to be mobilized, clandestine assets informed, allied who share in liaison relationships informed, etc. An NSA analyst took a few documents home, claiming it was just to do extra work at home. He is serving 9 years in jail. For what trump stole, the punishment should be a major multiple of that, but his delay tactics will likely prevent that from going to trial until after the election. If he loses in November, or if the Repubs do the smart thing and replace him, he most likely dies in jail.

LOL Maybe that 'accredited degree' isn't quite enough to allow you to fully comprehend? Certainly I think it's high time you at least gave a shot at producing something of value. Come on, Skippy, show your fastball.

The problem for Repub 'payback' is that they have to find actual crimes. trump makes it so easy, because he engaged in so many criminal activities, that his dance card is currently filled to the brim with court dates. Now if some Dem steals TS, SCI, SAP, SITK, Codeword, HCS and RD documents, by all means they should be prosecuted. Similarly if a losing Dem candidate calls a State official and pressures him to commit election fraud, by all means prosecute. Plus, if a losing Dem candidate gets involved in a scheme to have fake electors change the actual results of an election, prosecute. Finally, if a Dem losing candidate calls his supporters to DC for a simple election certification, tells them to march to the Capitol and fight like hell, and then sits and watches the unfolding violence on TV while refusing to order the DC National Guard---who informed him they were ready to go---then by all means throw the book at him.

What? Republicans continued dive into illegality, and justifying it because 'winning isn't everything; it's the ONLY thing'.

It's a bit surprising trump's lawyer took this tact: "Guess what? It's not illegal to try to influence an election; it's called democracy" That's a softball pitch to the prosecution, who only has to inform the jury of what actually IS illegal, which in NY State is using campaign funds to keep negative information from coming out, in order to influence an election. After that, all the witness testimony falls into place. Making someone accountable for breaking the law and committing a felony is as far from 'weaponization' of justice as can be. It's simply rule of law, the very foundation of the American system. The defense also tried to portray trump as 'poor little donny; he didn't do anything wrong, and he's such a wonderful, upstanding sort of guy' Prosecution has permission not to play the Access Hollywood tape, but to introduce the transcript of it into the court record. trump portrays himself as a 'star' who can even 'grab women by the p-word'. Suddenly trump looks like a sleazeball. Prosecution then will try to show trump lied about involvement in the overall scheme (Pecker is reported ready to testify that the first 'catch and kill' meeting in trump tower had 3 participants: Pecker, Cohen and trump. That makes trump a liar. Later Cohen will argue that trump was directly involved in the payoff, and Cohen apparently has phone recordings and documents to prove it. Enter Stormy and McDougal, who will both testify they had affairs/sex with trump, and again trump comes across as a liar. Though trump claims he will take the stand, his lawyer is likely too bright and too knowledgeable of reality to let trump do that. So the jury will hear testimony that trump was intimately involved in the hush money payoff, that trump lied about knowing about the scheme, and that trump talks like he's in a high school locker room, and that trump dallied with at least two women while his wife was recovering from childbirth. All of that makes the jury more willing to accept the legal definition of the laws NY State alleges trump broke, and with trump's bad character and lack of integrity laid bare by both the paramours and trump's former fellow participants in the scheme, it doesn't look good for donny. Another wild card is that trump's lack of discipline is likely to be put to the test as witness after witness calls him a liar and details trump's intimate behavior. Prosecution is likely to try to get under trump's skin and elicit a courtroom explosion by having at least Stormy 'prove' her story by detailing trump's junk.

To get a glimpse into how embarrassing this trial could be for trump, here's a visit to the Jimmy Kimmel show by Stormy Daniels from a few years ago, while trump was President, where she discusses her (alleged) affair with trump. Kimmel presents her with a display of various mushrooms and asks her to identify the one most closely resembling trump. He would not like that, if something similar comes up in the trial, which it absolutely will if the defense decides to continue denying that the affair took place. trump could likely avoid this sort of theater if the defense just admits trump lied and that the affair did happen. Claim that trump felt contrite and didn't want to hurt Melania, and the charges could be reduced to a misdemeanor. Hold fast to the "No Affair" defense, and Stormy will take the stand and expose trump's shortcomings. What will make it worse is that Stormy is now quite angry, as she has been receiving a constant bombardment of death threats against her and even against her daughter from trumpers. That anger likely will mean she holds nothing back while under oath. trump, just by existing, is an embarrassment to the US, but to have his micro-junk described in intimate detail really isn't going to gain him the swing vote in November. Frankly, the Republicans could win in November if they dumped trump and replaced him with a sane and thoughtful candidate, such as Mitt, or the former Gov of Maryland Hogan, or even the architect of the Border Bill that the House shot down (Sen Lankford). Stick with micro-junk trump, and they've got themselves a loser.

Very silly comment. Have you ever heard of Whitewater, the $37 million Repub 'investigation' into a tiny RE deal that resulted in a stained blue dress? How about the 11 straight hours Hillary endured discussing another Repub expensive wild goose chase referred to as Benghazi? As for Hunter, is he a govt official? Did he try to sell his name to developments in India and the UAE as Uday and Qusay Don, Jr and Eric did? Did any Biden or Clinton go to the Russian Embassy in DC a month before the inauguration of their namesake to "open a secret direct channel to putin", as Jared did? Did Hunter get $1.2 billion from Qatar to refinance a white elephant in NYC (666 5th Ave) while serving as a Senior Adviser to the President, as Jared did? And why did the sanctions imposed on Qatar 'suddenly' get removed days after the refinancing? Did Hunter get 37 trademarks approved in China while serving as a Senior Adviser to the President, as Ivanka did? I must have missed the DoJ going after Jared, Don, Jr, Eric and Ivanka for their influence peddling. ONLY trump tried to overturn an election. ONLY trump stole highly classified documents (vs the personal notes with some classified info removed by Pence, Biden and Reagan) and then lied about returning them. ONLY trump tried to pressure a State official to commit voter and election fraud. ONLY trump called his goobers to DC to "fight like hell" and "march to the Capitol". Al Gore, who had a legitimate reason to question the SC's decision re Florida, did not do what trump did. trump absolutely 100% deserves all the indictments coming his way, and if he truly was innocent, he would want to clear his name as quickly as possible, rather than delay in the longshot hope he wins re-election and can pardon himself for a few of his alleged crimes.

Prosecution can ask both Stormy and Karen McDougal to describe what they claim to have seen. Melania cannot be called to the stand, as far as I know, as she is the current wife, but in a pinch, Marla Maples could be called to corroborate or take exception to, what Stormy and McDougal describe. No matter, it's not going to be pretty, and is likely to upset trump a lot (though it could be a bonanza for enoki mushroom sales, as trumpers will scoff them up to show their fealty).

It's certainly going to be entertaining watching how the trial unfolds. From comments made by trump's legal team, it suggests the defense is going to change from 'don't even know horseface' to 'yes, he had an affair, but his goal was to keep from embarrassing his wife'. That, however, would do nothing to change the allegations of altered business records. It seems that if the payoff was done in order to affect the election, that makes it a felony in NY State, but if the defense admits to the affair and wins over the jury that the poor little serial philanderer just didn't want to upset the wife he was cheating on, the business alterations and fraud might be reduced to misdemeanors. No matter the defense strategy, trump is going to have to sit hours and days on end, listening to witness after witness talk about his affairs and his attempts to cover them up. For a guy who likes to believe he's always in control, this is going to hurt him badly. The danger for trump if he forces his defense team to still claim the trysts never happened, is that the prosecution then will be able to ask each witness---Stormy and Karen McDougal---to describe exactly what went down, and for bonafides they will likely be asked to describe trump's physical makeup. Because Stormy has already made comments about what she (allegedly) saw, the prosecution can quote her word for word and ask her if she stands by those descriptions under oath. trump definitely wouldn't like the entire world to be reminded of 'mushrooms' and 'well below average'.

Danderman123 already answered, but I will add that a thorough investigation takes time, and since Bragg entered office and began questioning Michael Cohen, it took time to gather all the documents and recorded phone calls, get a warrant to look at the accounting entries trump and Weisselberg made, etc. Once the charges were brought, trump filed a host of motions that delayed, as he has been doing in every case for which he has been indicted. Had he not filed all the motions to delay---and perhaps if he knew he was innocent and was intent on proving it---the trials might all be over now, and either trump would have been proven innocent, or he would have been proven guilty. The voters have a right to know if one candidate is a felon, yet trump files endless motions to delay, hoping he can avoid conviction until after the election. Of course he cannot pardon himself for the hush money trial, as that is a State issue, and neither can he pardon himself for alleged RICO violations in Georgia. He has now spent $86 million in legal fees, all of which he took from goober donations to his various PACS. The endless motions to delay no doubt have cost him a considerable portion of that sum, though the lawyers must be happy they are getting paid that much, and the goobers who donated to his PACS don't seem to mind getting fleeced by their messiah.

Always amusing to see how trumpers rationalize and justify illegality. The former so-called "law and order Party" has morphed into the "And you thought Popes were infallible Party!", where anything their messiah does---from paying off porn stars while cheating on his latest wife to stealing classified documents and lying about it, to pressuring a State official to alter votes, to calling his goobers to DC on a day involving a simple pro forma certification of an election, to sending his goobers to attack the Capitol, to sitting on his bloated backside and doing nothing while watching a gallows erected on the Capitol grounds and his goobers chanting "Hang Mike Pence"---is kosher (to be somewhat ecumenical with Popes and kosher). Any illegality in the service of their messiah is okay. In trumpistan, terrorists are "hostages and political prisoners" (you know, the ones who beat 140 cops, sh!t on the floor of the Capitol and rubbed the feces on the walls, smashed windows and doors, and tried to find the VP and SotH to do both severe harm), lies are 'alternative facts', truth isn't truth (Rudy), the 'best economy ever' isn't in the top 70%, and elections are "heads I win, tails you lose". LOL "trumpers"

And there you remain, holding up the trumpers' side. Same thing over and over....I suppose one could say that about trump, Israel, Ukraine, Thailand-good-or-bad, Brit royals....nobody ever has his or her mind changed, but what the heck. The Forum has to have discussion, if it is to draw ads. I'm just doing my part for Capitalism. By the way, I often ask trumpers to explain things, such as why trump stole all of those documents, why he lied about it, why he told Brad Raffensperger to "just find me...11,780 votes", why he called his goobers to DC for 6 Jan 21 Tweeting "It'll be WILD!", why he held the Mall rally and told his goobers to "march to the Capitol" and "fight like hell", or why trump could call out the DC police to forceably remove peaceful protesters from Lafayette Park just so trump could hold a Bible upside down for a photo op, but refused to send the DC National Guard to the Capitol on 6 January to break up a violent terrorist attack, despite being informed the DC Guard was standing ready to deploy. And NO, the Speaker does not have the authority to call the Guard...just the President. No trumper ever offers any coherent explanation.

Isn't it amazing how 'trickle down' via tax cuts never actually reaches the majority, but strong organic growth, such as the strongest growth since the late 1990s, lifts most all boats, billionaires and the educated/clever alike. That it might leave out the poorly educated trumpers is not the fault of Biden, as people must have a needed skill or talent to partake in the modern economy. On balance, trumpers lack anything the modern economy demands, so understandably they are not keeping up.

So the Ukrainians should just let the russians bomb their schools and hospitals and not fight back? Let russia slaughter their people and take their country? That sounds both cowardly and stupid. The Ukrainians have showed immense courage in the face of heinous aggression by putin. Like many, likely most Americans, I have no problem with my tax dollars going to support Ukraine's fight against aggression.

trumpism is when correlation absolutely equals causation, such as how putin didn't invade Ukraine when his lapdog trump was in office, or how a trump loss in an election means it must have been stolen. It isn't 'lefties' blaming the other guy, it's trump and trumpers. Not once has trump ever accepted responsibility for anything negative, and despite leaving Biden 6.8% UE and a Recession, trump tried to take credit for the massive job creation and record low UE under Biden, plus the strongest economic growth since the late 1990's under Clinton. trump's siren song to his goobers is based on telling them their abject failure at life isn't their fault. He gives them "others" to blame, a tactic straight out of the autocrat's playbook. I agree sometimes a spade is just a spade and a leader is just incompetent. To take the low UE of Obama plus the growth of Obama and turn it into 6.8% UE and a Recession, all while increasing the accumulated 240 years of National Debt by a whopping 41%, as trump did, is incompetence on a scale that makes Herbert Hoover look good.

Lots of folks need constant reminders that the election wasn't stolen and that nearly 4 years later zero proof of any theft has been presented. That crazy conspiracy theory/trump lie resulted in the terrorist attack on the US Capitol, so it is abundantly clear the constant reminder is absolutely necessary, especially as trump continues to lie about it to this day. You might ask yourself why trump continues to lie about it. For what purpose?

If the facts did not point to trump having violated these laws, he would not have been charged. That I can guarantee. Michael Cohen is not, to the best of my knowledge, running for President, yet he was tried and convicted on some of these very same charges, and went to jail because of it. The same is true of Allen Weisselberg. Both allegedly did trump's bidding and paid the price. The jury will now decide if what witness statements, documents, and recorded telephone conversations back up what Cohen and others allege. The laws, as noted in the indictment and my post, are quite clear and on the books of the State of NY. Beginning Monday, we shall all see exactly why the charges were brought. The defense will be interesting to watch, as although trump has denied the affairs with Stormy and Ms McDougal, it seems the defense is now leaning toward admitting at least the Stormy affair. The prosecution apparently plans to call, inter alia, both Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to the stand to discuss both their assignations with trump as well as the payments for them to remain silent. It should make for grand theater. Now I wonder if anyone will also argue that if trump were not running for President, Georgia would not have indicted him for RICO violations and attempting to coerce the GA SecState to alter votes, or that the DoJ would not have indicted trump for the theft of highly classified documents and subsequently lying to the FBI about returning them, or obstruction the pro forma certification of the 2020 election which trump lost?

Poor fellow. The bizarre world of conspiracy 'theorists' is heavily skewed toward trumpers, no matter what this poor fellow's politics happened to be. Conspiracy theorist's favorite phrase seems to be "do the research", which supposedly was what gave them great insight into truths (sic). The internet not only allows such people to find whatever they want, but also allows them to link up and reinforce each others' beliefs. The poor fellow at the heart of this article undoubtedly found what fit his biases online. He seems to have bought into a cornucopia of the many popular conspiracy theories. Here's a few of these "popular" conspiracy theories: 1) The world of QAnon (for those who don't know, this is a belief that an international cabal, led by people such as Hillary Clinton and actor Tom Hanks, kidnap, rape, roast and eat human babies) is 99.999% trumpers, and has about 20-25% of Americans as believers. They are ubiquitous at trump rallies, holding giant Q signs, and they were a substantial element of the terrorists who stormed the Capitol at trump's bidding on 6 January 2021, toting their Q banners. It is unclear if trump actually believes the whole Q drivel or not, but he most certainly panders to it and feeds into it. One of the QAnon beliefs is that trump was going to lead The Great Storm, which would round up all the supposed baby-eaters and reinstall trump as POTUS, first at the time of the 6 January attack, then in August of 2021, then August of 2022, then August of 2023. trump even discussed his re-installation in an interview, claiming it would happen and telling the interviewer, "It's too complicated for you to understand". In 2022 trump posted an image of himself on Truth Social wearing a Q lapel pin with the words "The Storm is Coming" (It can be found on trump's Truth Social history). 2) trump himself was the originator of the conspiracy theory about "stolen" election, having his team issue the phrase "Stop the Steal". All sorts of absurdities were added to this conspiracy theory, the craziest being from trump's lawyer Sidney Powell, who claimed dead former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez rose from the grave, wrote computer code which he uploaded to an Italian satellite, which subsequently altered votes on Dominion and Smartmatic voting machines. Fox News even aired some of this nonsense, and was subsequently fined $787 million and still faces a $2 billion lawsuit from Smartmatic. My Pillow founder Mike Lindell added his own crazy theories, is constantly announcing 'proof is coming soon', but his proof is like Godot. Sadly, this trump-initiated conspiracy theory was largely behind the terror attack on the Capitol. Another former trump lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, also claimed he had proof coming, but never produced any. 3) Yet another conspiracy theory is "weaponization of the Justice Dept", which non-conspiracy theorists just call accountability. trumpers insist that the very fact that trump has been charged with so many crimes is "proof" of a DoJ conspiracy, seemingly forgetting that trump is perfectly capable of committing so many crimes, and the evidence and testimony from former trump officials are what resulted in the current 91 felony charges against trump. trumpers could use Occam's Razor, but refuse to do so. 4) George Soros...Soros is a favorite target of conspiracy theorists, though one has to wonder why. It likely has an anti-Semitic element to it. Whenever an event happens that riles the far right and trumpers, Soros is always blamed for funding or fomenting it. The more batsh!t crazy conspiracy theorists even claim Soros is some sort of shape-shifting 10' Lizard who takes human form to cause all sorts of mischief. 5) Globalists...this is a kind of catchall where everything can be tossed into one package, and seems to be part of what drove the man who self-immolated to madness. Globalists are apparently some sort of cabal that either already runs the world or has some special plans to do so. Somehow, international leaders who hate each other or major businessmen who are in constant competition are actually all part of some highly cooperative group that tries to keep the people down and use the masses for their own personal gain. 6) Lots of other weird conspiracies are embraced, such as "chemtrails", FEMA Camps, 9-11 Truthers, the rogue planet Nibiru, and others that would be even funnier if for the fact so many believe them. It is a sad reality that on balance all of these believers gravitate toward trumpism.

Good cartoon about the real TDS: