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2 hours ago, sambum said:
I presume because people in "pubs and bars" are less likely to follow the "social distancing" rule!
Perhaps because going to pubs and bars, for Thais, is very much an activity indulged in by young middle class people - dangerous people. they have ideas and opinions, which they may exchange and share - dangerous people...
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Fundamentally what happened in Bristol, and with Churchill's statue, was nothing to do with what happened in Minneapolis and the subsequent reactions to years of effective racial and economic discrimination in the United States.
Bristol has a strong "tradition" of "community leaders", largely self selecting and self appointed, who wish to expand their power and funding. Claims for "compensation for slavery", to be paid and administered by the community groups which they run, are a long standing demand by these people.It is unfortunate but true, that the communities which they "represent" are dominated by criminal gangs, and these "community lealders", if not allied with are certainly tolerant of them (the criminal gangs). You may remember the violent campaign to stop Tesco opening a store on the Gloucester Road. Billed as a movement to protect the community from the deprecations of capitalism, it had a much more prosaic cause - Tesco refused to pay protection money! The police (Avon and Somerset Constabulary) were ultimately embarrassed into abandoning their cozy de facto truce with "the community" and taking action.
The destruction of Colston's statue, by gangs who have no connection whatsoever with slavery, save that of pigmentation, is nothing to do with democracy ( Bristol has a long history of elected left wing local governments), they could have removed that statue if they wanted to at virtually any time in the last thirty years. It has everything to do with these self appointed "community leaders" making their mark". They wish to cement their control of "their people" without the inconvenient, counterproductive and very likely non achievable process of actually winning a democratic mandate. If it is the wish of the people of Bristol, expressed through their elected representatives, that the statue of (in my opinion) the deeply flawed and despicable character that was Colston be removed then fine; not torn down by a mob inspired by an equally flawed "reinterpretation" of history.
And the police? Avon and Somerset Constabulary - need I say more?
As for defacing Churchill's statue - the irony is that were it not for the stand against fascism, Nazism and racism by the generation which he led, they would not be living in a country which allows their protests.
Once again, if it is the wish of the people of the UK, expressed through their elected representatives, that the statue of Sir Winston Churchill be removed, so be it. I think we all know that it isn't.
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Talk about a rabbit in the headlights, he looks a bit desperate doesn't he?
I wonder if the reality is settling in. It's over - all over - and no amount of made up statistics will change it.
The goose is dead, and a significant amount of the blame is at their feet.
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36 minutes ago, Brunolem said:
The closed door will stop them...
Yesterday evening my daughter went to the movies with her pals. I dropped her off, and had a couple of hours to wait. I haven't been in town in the evening since the whole lockdown palaver began. To my surprise, about 60% or so of the street food stalls and shophouse restaurants were open, and quite busy. Some bars were open, albeit with dimmed lighting, once off the main roads even more so. I took a stroll down the " western strip" (such as it is). No tourists of course, and only one of the westerner owned bars showed any signs of life; several of the Thai owned operations were discretely open. The massage joints all had the usual collection of girls outside. Absolutely (as before) no sign of any police presence.
I was surprised. Now we are a long way from Bangkok, but I can't help wondering if 1) the authorities have proved susceptible to a certain amount of "influence" and 2) are the Thais voting with their feet?
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1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:
And as is the case with everything this administration does, no thought is given to the bigger picture, the long term view, or the value of the money that these gals earn, when it is sent and spent upcountry. Again, upcountry does not count for much, though they represent the majority. The poor here are scorned and ignored. Why do you think Thaksin was so immensely popular?
This is all about power, at this point, and has NOTHING to do with public safety. And the best way to insure public safety and well being is to let them go back to work.
Whatever the initial aim (to inhibit the spread of Covid 19) it has become a means of re-ordering society, how the people live, interact, earn a living, are educated, and when permitted enjoy themselves. It all hinges on control, the mobile phone apps are central to that. The Orwellian catch phrases "new normal" and "the new normal era" are the give aways!
For those lower down the chain of command, it is an almost unlimited, endless opportunity to enjoy and exercise power, to be welcomed eagerly.
Will they be able to establish the level of control needed to ensure that it works? We will see. Given their track record for incompetence and corruption, and given that those at the top have little interest in anything or anybody beyond metropolitan Bangkok ( unless it is a gold mine or similar source of wealth!) I am sceptical.
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It would be a sought after job - politician, NLA member or not I should imagine getting the post required a lot of influence...
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16 hours ago, smedly said:
if I owned a bar I'd be very angry
Perhaps not enough bar and venue owners have sold to the right people at the right price - yet?
I'm not suggesting that the principal of applying measures to inhibit the spread of the Covid 19 virus is (was) wrong.
I do suspect that latterly a variety of ulterior motives have emerged, in the way that they are being applied.
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Personally, I am always amused by the slogan " finger licking good" emblazoned across the "embonpoint" of the young ladies who work behind the counter of my local KFC!
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It is becoming rather obvious that, along with the remarkable level of control that they have established over the lives, economic activity and movements of their own population, they are seeking to extend the same degree of detailed control over any tourists.
I believe that they call it the "new normal"?
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2 hours ago, webfact said:
The state of emergency may be extended while schools and airports will reopen and there will be long holidays next month, according to Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam.
Cut and paste this to the computer's memory, it will be needed every month for the foreseeable future...
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11 hours ago, rooster59 said:
new normal era."
It does sound remarkably permanent doesn't it? A new order?
If (perish the thought) the government had the slightest leaning towards being an authoritarian regime these practices, controlling peoples movement, social activities, and determining exactly how they are to live, and how (or even if) people are to be allowed to conduct their businesses would be a veritable wet dream to the sort of people who favour black polo shirts tucked into black "business trousers". Lucky that it is just a set of simple precautions to hamper the spread of the virus isn't it?
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5 hours ago, Krataiboy said:a life of neo-feudalism run by self-serving politicians and deranged technocrats.
The best description of "the new normal" I have seen.
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No doubt if Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit were to sever all links with Future Forward, withdraw any financial support, and declare that he has no intention whatsoever of playing any part in politics ever again; then the matter of his mother's land will be found to be a simple administrative misunderstanding - they do so easily happen.
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4 hours ago, Olmate said:
“Excessive in the circumstances” is what is important.
They killed him.
In any circumstances, short of him actively threatening the life of anyone (policeman or bystander) that is excessive.
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The green striped deckchairs should be laid out on the starboard promenade deck, the red striped deckchairs on the port promenade deck.
No, perhaps the red towards the bow, and the green towards the stern.
Wait, my ministry thinks that...
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16 hours ago, Trillian said:
Government subsidies for rice, rubber, tapioca, oil palm, corn and now sugar cane, does anyone grow anything that isn't subsidised!
May I refer you to post#4.
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2 minutes ago, ChipButty said:I can see a good book in the making here if anyone dares to write it
Anyone writing such a book had better stop wearing socks!
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16 hours ago, Oldie said:
There was no other option to put them all on the picture...
Most cameras and smartphone cameras have a "panorama" setting these days - maybe that should be the "new normal"?
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2 hours ago, Cali farong said:
Step by step. They have a plan!
I need a drinkBetter than that, I expect that they have a "roadmap" - we haven't had one for a while, and the last one was good for several years; and look at how dramatically that changed things!
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I am a bear of very little brain in such matters, but: let us assume "Herfiehandbag leasing inc." leases some aeroplanes to Thai International. Although based in the USA, "Herfiehandbag leasing inc." has offices all over the world. What is to stop their, let us say. Ankara office sticking a writ on an aircraft when it arrives?
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Looks like some sensible outdoor activity - a bit of physical activity and some interesting tasks for the children with a well presented message.
Not sure about it being "military training" - no obvious cock ups, no transport turning up at the wrong place or time, nobody turning up in the wrong kit, no standing around for twenty minutes before being bollocked for being late, no cooks or Q staff throwing a wobbly because "they didn't know", where is the PTI at the end shouting about you being in your own time now? Nothing recognisably military about it at all!
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1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said:It's not just the hotel business, it goes way, way further than that, with many other types of businesses closing down. And people think the government did a sterling job ????
Oh I'm sure that when the dust settles, and some significant portfolios have been amassed at bargain prices, there will be those who will regard it as a "sterling job".
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1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:
Except if they want to change the actual world reputation for Thailand
and get ride of the girlies bars, It could be the unspoken project
I suspect that some (of influence) would quite like to, err, redefine the parameters for owning and operating the "girlie bars". Perhaps as an adjunct to a casino operation in certain selected areas.
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If they don't open the bars before the schools open. how the hell we will be able to hold all the meetings to prepare for the new school year?
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Felling of British slave trader statue heats up simmering debate
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Posted · Edited by herfiehandbag
If you had read my post, and not just dismissed it as "right wing propaganda", you might have noticed that:
!) Far from being proud of him and any roots which he represents, I consider Colston, and others of his ilk, to be despicable people, engaged in an abhorent trade, a trade which the United Kingdom, to it's credit, outlawed over two hundred years ago.
2) My post was concerned with the campaigns of these groups today. As a native of the West Country, who lived near Bristol, and had several friends and acquaintances from the West Indian community in the city, I am well aware of what drives these activists and the "community groups" which they lead. It is frankly neither concern about the plight of the urban black American community, nor the genuine needs and future prospects, socially or economically, of the people who live in the areas they claim to "represent" and seek to control. Rather it is to cement their powerbase, and guarantee or increase the (public) funding which allows them to operate.
If the people of Bristol had wanted to remove or move the statue of Colston there have been ample opportunities to do so, and listing would not have been an insurmountable obstacle. Any number of grade 2 listed buildings and monuments have been demolished and moved.
Because you disagree with my views, that does not make them "right wing propaganda". My own political viewpoint is probably to the right of centre (on the UK's spectrum - in the US I would be regarded as a dangerous subversive or even a "commie"!), I myself cannot decide whether I am a liberal conservative or a conservative liberal!