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Combine this with falling exports and the overvalued Baht and Thailand is really up the creek without a paddle.
They need to let farangs back in with Thai wife's without jumping through hoops and and those with Children ASAP to start the tourist ball rolling again
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21 hours ago, transam said:
Did he get voted in as President...?
With 3 million votes less than Hillary
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6 hours ago, rkidlad said:
‘Mr. Suthon maintained that Vorayuth’s car speed was 177kph, while Mr. Saiprasit maintained that the speed was about 79kph’
How can two ‘forensic scientists’ be so far apart in their calculations. It’s as if one of them base theirs on science and the other one on a large pile of cash.
$$$$$$$
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The Fat Boy tRump is not known for being coherent when he talks or his intelligence levels
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4 hours ago, CANSIAM said:
Somebody please tell me when Non O yearly extension holders will be considered, absolute BS, plenty of money in their banks, we are not tourists......
Also what about the men who work overseas and are married to Thai Ladies, or the men who have decided to retire in there home countries and come to see their wife's on 3 month visas twice a year
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10 hours ago, SVC Porter said:
As every day passes Thailand sinks further into a bottomless pit.
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4 minutes ago, sambum said:
"Thailand is so irresistible, that a tourist will spend $2,000 to $4,000 for quarantine, spend a two week prison sentence in a hotel room, and then be subject to extreme restrictions? What planet are these people living on?"
"the longer tourists stay away from Thailand, the harder it will be to get them to come back."
Absolutely correct on both counts, and in many cases I think they will NEVER come back having found more "tourist friendly" destinations. And of course, you have the knock on effect of them telling their friends and neighbours and workmates how "Amazing" Thailand really is!
Excellent post and so true
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1 minute ago, Older bolder said:If they think tourists are going to come in by the thousands with a lot of restrictions they need to think again... if they are going to let some tourists in they need to sort things out now..ie flight going in,3 of the biggest tourist companies are pulling out Thailand now..
If they don't they will lose 10's of millions in lost revenue and millions of jobs
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1 minute ago, sambum said:
"Under this plan only those from countries deemed to have the virus under control would be allowed entry and they would then be subject to quarantine and severe restrictions on where they are allowed to go."
"Countries that would be eligible were China, Taiwan, the US and those in Europe"
With more than 5,000,000 (5 MILLION) cases, and HUNDREDS more each day (sometimes THOUSANDS) I would hardly deem them to have the virus under control - or do the Thai politicians believe everything that comes out of Trump's mouth in the same way as they believe everything their own Ministers say?
And even in Europe, with the number of cases in the UK sitting at 308,134, with 46,413 deaths and hundreds of new cases each day resulting in places like Leicester under lockdown again. and many other places facing new restrictions, I wouldn't think that they have it "under control"
(P.S. I am a Brit, and the way my countrymen ignore the rules is sickening - kudos to the majority of the Thai people for at least recognising the danger, and taking the advice seriously - pity the Army didn't!)
Thailand has a lot of work to do if it wants free spending farangs to come back here when they open up the country again, and asking people to quarantine for 2 weeks isn't one of then and neither is jumping through hoops to get a 3 month visa.
The Farangs will find other countries to go to if Thailand doesn't become more Farnag tourist friendly.
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1 hour ago, kamma said:
The requirement for quarantine is not unique to Thailand.
Most countries in Europe are requiring tourists to quarantine upon arrival. France, Germany, Austria, Czech Rep, Estonia, Ireland and Bulgaria to name a few. Also N. America, many countries in S. America and Australia have quarantine rules for travelers in place.
And yet many are still holidaying this summer.
People here just wanna bash Thailand. The Thai government has many-many deficiencies in the way the country is run but all these armchair politicians here act as if they could run a country any better?
Nobody's Thai bashing, but there has been lots of Farang bashing in Thailand.
If Thailand is serious about getting Farang tourists back it needs to be a lot Farang friendly tahn is has been in the recent past, otherwise Farangs will just go elsewhere.
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4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:Of course it doesn't work for short-time holiday makers...
But if I was looking to come for the season and stay 3-4 months, I don't think an upfront two-week quarantine is so outrageous under the circumstances. And, the ASQ hotel prices in reality aren't necessarily that far beyond normal prices, when you consider the required testing and monitoring.
50,000b packages for 14 days work out to about 3750b per night. But that includes the required COVID checks and tests, and some level of meal service in most of the packages I've seen.
Trust me they wont be coming.
They will either stay in there own countries for Christmas and the New Year holidays or find a country that is Farang friendly foe the holidays and that certainly isn't Thailand
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30 minutes ago, Anna Rak said:British Home office remove quarantine restrictions for Malaysia and Brunei.
There are many great beaches and holiday spots on the East coast of Malaysia, so to try and get some sort of far east holiday this year that will be a last minute destination for me, my Thai wife and our children for our 3 weeks vacation.
So Thailand has lost my annual 200,000 Thai baht spend, I know in the great scheme of things it's a small amount but as they say every little helps.
I suspect that tourists that once used to come to Thailand for their winter holidays will now holiday elsewhere where they are welcome. Thailand is going to take a huge financial hit over the next 6 months which will it many many years to recover from and in the meantime unemployment soars.
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3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:I don't see any evidence of that likely to be the case in Thailand.
Most of the "visitors" who come here come here in part because they dislike/want to avoid all the rules and regulations they may have back home. They're not exactly the toe the line types, in general.
And returning Thais certainly didn't honor the self isolation rules back before the mandatory quarantine came into effect... It was out the door and party soon after arriving.
Exactly. Even for a 3 month stay people won't want to spend 2 weeks in a overpriced hotel and in the meantime Farangs are looking to book their Christmas and new year holidays in their home countries unless Thailand makes it easier for them to come here.
This coming Christmas and New Year Thailand is going to lose out on 10's of millions of tourists money. that is a hell of a lot of money and jobs lost.
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5 hours ago, rvaviator said:i am sure they would get some uptake on a 14 day 'lock up' + 3 month tourist visa ...... Show travel insurance which would cover C-19. + return ticket.
Seeing as you have to jump through hoops before to get a 3 month visa and it takes for ever and day to get one i don't think it will happen
People don't want to spend 2 weeks in a overpriced hotel for the start of their holiday.
I get the covid-19 cover, but to expect men married to Thai ladies to spend any time in a overpriced hotel they are diluted. Perhaps it might be an idea to let these married men quaratine in their own homes. Just saying
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I seriously think that the junta has about one month to save the Thai economy for the next 3 years.
If they don't do anything to rein in the strong Baht and ease visa restrictions for the spending Farang tourists, Thailand will go from a 2nd world country back to a 3rd world country very quickly.
Miserly spending Chinese will not get Thailand out of this huge black hole it is in a the moment.
Farang spending will save jobs
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6 hours ago, trainman34014 said:
I would say 3 Million unemployed is a very conservative figure; 6 million may be nearer the mark and there is already an undercurrent of protest in The North about what the Brainless of Bangkok are going to do about it apart from offering 'Holiday Vouchers' !
Indeed, and probably more than 6 million.
The Thai economy is heading for one huge train crash unless the government get's serious about addressing the obvious problems
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1 hour ago, Kadilo said:
Open for Xmas.
If they aren't the country will be in a even bigger meltdown than they are now with the amount of jobs that will go to the wall, plus the one's that alreaday have gone to the wall
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1 hour ago, Bim Smith said:
Just got back from immigration and told after 7 years living here I have to leave the country before September 26th and do a border bounce and come back in as a tourist to get my Non O visa for retirement. Wouldn't it be better if you let those already living here to allow to change within the country?
That's common sense so they won't do that.
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1 hour ago, ronaldo0 said:Brother of one of my friends has a place in Pattaya and lives there most of the year . He is stuck in the uk and wants to return without all the hoop jumping and asked at Thai embassy when he would likely get back . They told him possibly around April !! If so the country should be pretty much ruined by then I would think.
The country is pretty much ruined now and in the meantime other countries in the region will take in the tourists that Thailand doesn't want and creating jobs and wealth for them countries.
How many 10's of millions of dollars will Thailand lose if they don't open up soon.
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Thailand needs farang tourists as farang tourists spend money here unlike the Chinese tourists
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4 hours ago, petermik said:
Simple solution devalue the hugely inflated BAHT...
Which will help exports and they should ease the entry rules to get more tourist here and who will spend money and save jobs.
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1 hour ago, 86Tiger said:No "tourist" is going to go come to Thailand under these conditions.
Exactly, and the longer the leave it to ease these rules the worse it will be for the Thai economy.
Once the regulars tourists who use to come to Thailand find somewhere else in the region which is more tourist friendly and their money goes further they will kiss Thailand good bye and never return.
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48 minutes ago, TooBigToFit said:
I find it idiocy that people think tourism is just going to pop back as if the world hasn't suffered a gigantic economic impact. You can't even send a letter or package regular mail to many nations right now. Average people have lost tons on the crisis and millions have lost their jobs. Nothing is going to come back as it once was. Besides long before the virus, Thailand was going down. Younger people aren't interested in Thailand the same way. Many see Asia as the source of the outbreak so that will scare off many as well. The only thing that might drive people to visit Asia in higher amounts than normal is poverty or on the extreme end such as a long term economic and social collapse of some western nations like the US.
What might get people to visit Thailand is easier entry rules and a weaker Baht.
Other countries in the region are going to be more welcoming than Thailand and that will create wealth and jobs for them countries
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12 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:
They really won't.
Their economy is also not reliant on tourism.
In this case i think they will. There is a lot of money to be made from tourism in this part of the world now that Thailand has really closed it's borders and Vietnam will want some of that pie, along with the Philippines.
When people go to Vietnam and the Philippines and see what they can gt for there money there compared to Thailand a lot wont be returning to Thailand.
It's different for people like me who are married to Thais and i have been for many years, but if you are a single bloke i say go for it in Vietnam and the Philippines.
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Not 'Thigh-land': Thais amused at Trump's slip
in Thailand News
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We can blame the Fat Boy for the amount of deaths in US though due to the Fat Boys slow response to the virus,