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Even if you did compile the evidence from this, it would still have no significance as applied to the UK population. But just presenting a link to a thread with uncompiled data doesn't even rise to the low standard you invoke. I'm certainly not going to take your word for it that this topic supports your contention and I'm not going to go to the trouble of compiling data to prove or disprove your point. This is just more trolling.

Basically, the point you make is a good one. But it doesn't help your case when you make false statements like: "On the downside, the insane Merkel policy of total dependance on Russian energy is going to take a little more time to unravel in Europe"

Who cares what you claim to have noticed? "Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source." Sound familiar? And now you're claiming that your poll actually will have some kind of sound evidentiary value? Give up the trolling already. It's just so tired and obvious.

No it isn't. For lots of reasons. For starters, yellow cards aren't useful for determining causation, They are reports of events. Given the politicization of the covid-19 and the controversy, it's not surprising that there were more reports of adverse events. NOT adverse effects. But even if they could have evidentiary value, what kind of value could they have with data drawn from a population that never used them? Saying we need to get to the truth when we already have overwhelming evidence is just a way of trying to sound reasonable while pushing an agenda that is anything but. Astra Zeneca is a good vaccine but it had a higher rate of effects judged to be adverse than did the mRNA vaccines. Certainly, it was far better to be vaccinated with it than to go unvaccinated.

From the article linked to by Bkk Brian "There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people. And vaccinated and boosted people, on average, are older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID outcomes.” That is why, Cox added, when the CDC statistics are adjusted to account for those differences between groups, “we still see that unvaccinated people are at a much greater risk of death and other severe outcomes than vaccinated and boosted people are.” https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-casualties-vaccines-idUSL1N32R1UI

First you claim your poll is going to tell us nothing, now you claim that it's those outside the UK. I have indulged you long enough. This is just one more way you engage in trolling by making things personal. Just like correlating those who rooted against the UK with being remainers. Give it up already. You're not fooling anybody.

So you weren't blaming the rising price of housing on immigration?

===== These same four decades you used began with the end of a busy post-war building era, necessary to compensate for zero building through the WWII years and just after them. After that then the numbers of annual new builds were exceptionally high. The graph I posted indicates a recovery in recent years (increased house building) but that has not been enough to deal with new high demand, which is far higher than before 1997, with much of that difference due to an extra 200,000 people a year coming in to the UK, This is a major factor and should be acknowledged. Yes there has been high house price inflation, especially after 1997, all partly due to low interest rates, environmental protection laws, plus local areas resisting rising congestion. Yes, agree, lack of social (council) housing - the discounted sale of council houses to tenants worked well for many but the effect of that has dissipated and new build social housing has been inadequate From 2004 to 2021 the foreign born population in the UK increased by 4.2 million. In that same time period over 2 million new housing units were built in the uk. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/ From 2003 to 2019 over 2 million housing units were built https://www.statista.com/statistics/746101/completion-of-new-dwellings-uk/ So how is this rise in housing prices due to the increase in foreign residents in the UK?

That you use phrases like "so many" in what should be a numbers based discussion demonstrates how little command you have of the basics of the issue. Without knowing the distribution of the vaccination by age and health status among the general population, it is impossible to draw the conclusions that you have done. Well, impossible to draw valid inclusions. You seem to have a gift for drawing the other kind.

What about the yellow cards? What does the British Health system have to do with this? Sinovac and Sinopharm weren't used in the UK. And even if they were, yellow cards are useless for determining effectiveness.

And how will a poll answer that. question? You might just try asking them?

see answer above

Given that the younger the cohort is, the more likely they are to be unvaccinated, it's more than likely you are just wishing to be young. You really don't have a clue about how statistics work, do you?

So why should we care about whether or not those living in the UK and post here tend to have a different opinion from those living outside the UK?

See my reply above.

Maybe you should read the forum rules about editing quotes to change their meaning. Here's the whole quote again "Vaccination status of cases admitted to hospital, admitted to ICU and those who die will no longer be reported. These data were included from 2021 when vaccines were first rolled out to monitor trends in the relationship between vaccination and outcomes. With most of the population having received at least two doses of vaccine and there being differences in timings of booster dosing across different age groups, the trends between vaccines and outcomes cannot be interpreted using these data" Clearly they are addressing the present situation and are retiring data that has outlived its usefulness. As for your assertions other assertions. Without knowing, among other things, the breakdown of vaccination rates in the total population by age, your assertions are worthless.

Maybe you should have taken a glance at page 1 of that report: "Vaccination status of cases admitted to hospital, admitted to ICU and those who die will no longer be reported. These data were included from 2021 when vaccines were first rolled out to monitor trends in the relationship between vaccination and outcomes. With most of the population having received at least two doses of vaccine and there being differences in timings of booster dosing across different age groups, the trends between vaccines and outcomes cannot be interpreted using these data" https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overview-20221217.pdf

You are making a common mistake in your analysis. It's not about who wins, it's about accuracy. How close did the polls come to getting it the numbers right. As an example: Which is a better poll? One that predicts Mr. A will win by 20 points but he wins by 2 or one that predicts he loses by 2 but he wins by 2? The polls showing remain were off but not by such a huge margin as is currently the case. It's extremely unlikely that a long series of polls that show such a huge gap now as there is between pro and anti Brexit opinion are going to be so extremely wrong.

The polls fluctuated before the election and they were close. https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

In the meantime, in the real world...

In countries where parents hate their kids?

Not so hard. There were plenty of studies done when the Chinese vaccines were being widely used in countries outside China. It was effective against transmission and against hospitalization and death. Just not as effective as the mRNA vaccines or the Astra-Zeneca vaccine.

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source." https://aseannow.com/forum/158-world-news/

Well, you previously claimed that the inflation situation in the USA was just as bad as in the UK. Which was false.

It took several engagements for you to disgorge that information. Why the wait?