Petey11

3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Time to stop all this mass testing and follow Sweden back to the old normal

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/sweden-stops-mass-covid-19-testing/100820856

Think of the money they will lose from hospitalising tourists.

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Thailand is unlikely to lockdown again or close its borders despite increased infections

 

Despite increasing covid infection numbers due to the Omicron variant, Thailand is unlikely reimplement a nationwide lockdown or close its borders to international travelers, a senior doctor told Thai Enquirer on Thursday.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/37387/thailand-is-unlikely-to-lockdown-again-or-close-its-borders-despite-increased-infections/

Unlikely to close borders but want to stop reporting infections whilst still having restrictions on incoming tourists. You want to stop reporting numbers, then remove all restrictions for incoming tourists, maybe just a negative test before flight. No more test on arrival, 5th day test and no enforced hospital quarantine. Removing daily reporting of infections whilst still having restrictions and hospitalisation of tourists is not going boost the tourism numbers, will have the opposite effect in my opinion.

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

No it doesn't.  This is a TVF perpetuated myth.  Long ago, yes, now, no.

So if I visit Thailand as a tourist, rent a condo for maybe 3 weeks and test positive on day 5 I will be allowed to self isolate in that rented condo? Really? Please enlighten me. I'm talking about tourist visitors, not expat residents 

8 hours ago, jchfriis said:

You should just assume everybody you meet is infected. Here in Denmark the daily infections have been around 50,000 for the last few weeks, and that with a population of less than 10 percent of Thailand's. So I don't think the number of infections matter anymore. The number of people in ICU and deaths from Covid are what matters I think.

Covid itself would not worry me, it's the enforced hospitalisation if testing positive when visiting Thailand. I'm UK and as everyone knows it was rampant here in January, difference is if I caught it in the UK I can hole up in my own home.

24 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Unless the Thais have some natural immunity? Funny story.... my son and friend both recently had covid back in Australia. Wasn't determined if Omicron or Delta etc but both of them very mild symptoms.... I would say less than a bad flu. Both vaccinated and boosted.

 

Soooooo...there are many ways of looking at this.

How did they get covid  when they had 2 vax and boosters?

or is Covid not as bad as they say...only in specific cases (old, already sick etc)

or would it have been a lot worse if they weren't vaxxed.

 

What ever side of the debate you were on you would have a case lol!

 

But back to Thailand....2 days after my friends wife from Thailand arrived in Australia, my friend was tested positive for covid. Living in a small Condo in Sydney together, you would think she was a certainty to get it. They both quarantined together in the same apartment, slept together, ate together. After 2 weeks she was still testing negative every day. He reckons it's all the horrible bacterial stuff she eats. Covid wont go near her 5555

My daughter's been a very close contact 3 times now, tested everytime for a week, all negative. Told I can't fathom why she hasn't picked it up. Must be natural immunity as she is still a junior and no vaccination.

26 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I thought it would be because end of Chinese new year, and

because people are baulking at the high prices, supply and

demand , plenty of pork about , less people buying ,result

price goes down.

regards worgeordie

Basic economics but remember this is Thailand, normally raise the price to counter shortfall of sales rather than the other way around.

4 hours ago, Don Chance said:

Why do they keep on letting so many infected tourists? This test and go is daft. They will catch covid on the place, arrive test negative then go around infecting everyone.

Thailand should just wait until omnicron comes down a bit or require 3 days of quarantine.

Or is there a possibility that people are negative on arrival and then catch covid in the days before their test on day 5/6?

"Business operaters' request 90000 slave labour" is what it should say. What about all the Thais with no jobs in the fall out from covid/tourism demise.

Off with his ***** , won't do it again.

Mandatory vaccination of children by default, not good.

If all countries tested like Thailand I'm sure a lot more would climb the table.

20 hours ago, EricTh said:

Which country provides free PCR-test for non-citizens?

Pretty sure UK does if you have symptoms, but then the UK doesn't force PCR tests on fully vaccinated visitors and even a positive ATK does not require a follow up PCR now.

Thought they said they were going to stop using the "sino" vaccines?

59 minutes ago, DavisH said:

How do you explain the low number of deaths then? If there were really 10's of thousands of cases a day, why is the death rate only 10-15 a day?? So you don't believe the death count either?

Do all deaths have to be certified by a doctor? I believe not so if someone falls ill and dies out in the sticks who certifies it, let alone connect it with covid.

Why are the excess deaths way above the official covid deaths. This was discussed yesterday on this thread.

2 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

The official covid deaths in Thailand are 22,176 to date, or about 11,000 per annum.  The economist lists excess deaths to 28 Jan at 55,430 (https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker).  That's about the road toll over the same period.  I think what you intend to say is that Covid is preventable by taking the necessary precautions and therefore we should track it.  Are not diabetes (Type 2), Pollution and road deaths preventable.  Why do we not have daily updates of those and extreme restrictions (sugar banned, factories and crop burning properly monitored etc.).  Heck there are over 60,000 deaths from coronary disease annually in Thailand.  Is pork fat consumption being reported each day.  This reminds me of when there is a shark attack reported and so everyone avoids going in the ocean.  Statistical perspective and risk is warranted.     

You state 55k excess deaths, that is over and above the average. Previous years averages would have included those from road accidents, illness etc. How do you explain such a large excess apart from covid is ravaging the world. Just need to put two and two together to see that in most countries the excess deaths have rocketed in the last two years above the expected 5yr average. Remember the word "excess".

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The first evaluation period before declaring Covid-19 as endemic will be in February, Health Minister Anutin said on Friday. (1/3)

 

Currently, children under the age of 12 have not been vaccinated, and only 20% of the population have received three doses so it’s still too early to declare the disease as endemic at the moment. (2/3)

 

The minister added that Thailand hopes to become a "Covid Free Country" with zero Covid deaths from having high vaccine rates and enough medical supplies. (3/3)

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1486980684786765827

 

Wishful thinking, don't think there will ever be a time when there is zero covid and zero deaths. That's like saying there is zero seasonal flu and zero deaths from flu or dengue fever.

1 hour ago, philr said:

Why can’t Thailand do something similar that’s so eminently sensible, clear and simple?

You hit the nail on the head right there. It's Thailand, plus no extra money in the Dubai model.

10 hours ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1486848225432637440

 

Be nice to know the number of Sandbox tourists testing positive on their second test who I think, in my opinion , maybe contracting the virus in Phuket.

48 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

CU medical expert warns Omicron yet to peak in Thailand

 

An epidemiologist and medical lecturer at Chulalongkorn University on Thursday has warned Thais to strictly protect themselves as the spread of the Omicron variant in the country has not peaked yet.

 

Thira said Omicron started spreading in Asia after other continents and it was on the uptrend and but yet to hit highs like in other continents.

He noted that Thailand’s decision to open the country to foreign tourists could lead to various Covid-19 strains entering the country.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40011590

They won't know when it's peaked I think, don't test, don't know. Same as new variants entering the country, if your not looking you won't pick them up until it's too late.