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1 hour ago, Mansell said:

Totally agree Mike. We need a million people on the street demanding that the PM and his army cronies are all removed from power for complete incompetence, and a total lack of caring for the Thai people. Time to return to Democracy for the country. 

I'm with you guys.

Hopefully the whole deck of cards collapse.  Anutin, the 250 self appointed ministers, the whole damn bunch.

Figure it out after there all expelled from the country.

Just now, hugocnx said:

Yes, and many vaccinated are now infected with the Delta variant. Hilarious.

And much more unvaccinated are dead or on ventilators, if ones available.

Heartbreaking, not hilarious.

15 hours ago, internationalism said:

you just go to visa agency and they charge an additional 5k for vax document.

 

But there would be shortage of vax, especially for foreigners, for many years. Thanx to dr Anutin.

The only reason the government will try to force vax on foreigners is for their money, not because 

they do care about your health or health in the general population.

 

Still, herd immunity is around 70-80%, you can chose to be in those 20-30%. Especially, if you are not in a risk group.

I don't think herd immunity will work with COVID-19.

Even when vaccinated you can still carry a load of the virus. 

Unvaccinated people will get the virus from vaccinated people.

Will see.  It seems years until the world reaches that magical herd immunity.  In the meantime expect different mutations and further waves.

7 minutes ago, SS1 said:

It's quite hard to call trips to the supermarket essential, when every supermarket out there offers delivery as well. 

Theres a maximum 5 kilometers for some supermarket's.

We're in the boonies.

7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That looks nice but boring. Try this:

https://www.penthousehotel.com/honeymoon_and_hotels_for_honeymooners_in_pattaya_thailand.html

 

Thats my first choice.

Funny.

24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

A Penthouse Hotel suite?

Center of town.  No riff raff.

4 hours ago, steve187 said:

how will they ever get this under control. with all the idiots out there not following the rules. it seems alcohol is the weakness

...and out of work hostesses.  Might be smarter just to get the Tinder app.

12 hours ago, Karma80 said:

 

Missed suicides and people going hungry. Never mind, 79 days until the country opens it's borders....

It's hard to imagine being broke in Bangkok.  

Up here in Issan theres at least support from friends and family.  My wife and her friends could forage for food.  

Frightening times.

1 hour ago, pentagara said:

They have probably done an antibody titer test - as the article suggests ('unit'). That's a quite good indicator based on current knowledge and could also be published. Still, it's preliminary.

 

You're talking about something like a phase 3 trial which cannot be done in a few weeks. Waiting a few months till those results could be in might not be smart either though. Besides, also phase 3 trial data is actually not sufficient to draw good, comparable conclusions. You'd also need daily tests and gene sequencing for those who are infected to check for variants. Both were not done for phase 3 trials for most vaccines including Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna.

That is a major concern.  There is very little data from Sinovac and Sinopharm despite being approved for emergency use in more than 54 countries.

We're booked for Moderna but hopefully Astra Zeneca will be more widely available up here in the North East.

The regular Thai villagers around here won't take Sinovac and are to poor to pay for Sinopharm.

Thats convenient.

I think NNT is a government mouthpiece so whatever they report you need to take it with a grain of salt.

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

In the provinces where most of the people live people struggle to get on a waiting list for a vaccination, while in the capitol city of Bangkok 50% of the population is inoculated.  In what other country would that be considered acceptable?

50% sounds high.  With a population of 10,250,000.

Does than include people vaccinated with just one dose?

I couldn't find any stats just for Bangkok.

Hopefully there getting ready for the inevitable 5th wave.

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

From the abstract:

" We estimated the neutralization level for 50% protection against detectable SARS-CoV-2 infection to be 20.2% of the mean convalescent level (95% confidence interval (CI) = 14.4–28.4%). The estimated neutralization level required for 50% protection from severe infection was significantly lower (3% of the mean convalescent level; 95% CI = 0.7–13%, P = 0.0004). "

Could you put that in laymans terms. I think its saying " 50%" lower?

15 minutes ago, Joinaman said:

Spent the day at the main hospital with uncle

Very very quiet inside and out

Morer staff than patients , most of whom seem to be on their phones

BUT, one surpirse was  waiting for the lift to go back to the ward

as i entered, was joined by 2 staff, both dressed in full hazmat gear and a patient on a trolley

They leave the lift at the same floor, and then to my surprise, they wheel the covid patient through the normal ward, then through some doors into what has become the isolation ward for covid patients

Why on earth would anyone transport infected people through the lifts and wards that the public, and sick people use  ???

Definitely not a good plan.

These government hospitals/clinics in Issan aren't suited for anything more than a runny nose or sprained ankle.

Its going to be worse than those pictures in India.

There's no places up here in Northern Sakon Nakhon to get vaccinated.  We've got two elderly sisters living with us.

There adamant about not getting Sinovac.  I have a feeling thats what the North Eastern Issan area will be left with.

9 hours ago, Nojohndoe said:

Basically a reiteration of the factual reality that the vaccination roll out that wasn't has permitted an uncontrolled spread. An 80% asymptomatic detection rate is very interesting. Certainly does not help in any hope of containment but is perhaps an indication that the Thai population has already acquired a level of resistance due to widespread exposure to an earlier variant?

Interesting.

9 hours ago, shdmn said:

But the doomers here said it was failing, nobody was coming, it was turning into the zombie apocalypse.  Island of Dr. Moreau etc.  How could this be?  Is it possible the doomers are talking our of their spincters?

Watch a few popular YouTubers in Phuket.  It's DEAD.  I was watching Thailand Tony.  You can see some of his explorations from this week.

Saying that its absolutely beautiful without the crowds.  I'd love to play out the Pandemic in a resort by the beach.

1 hour ago, Derek B said:

So so tired of hearing & reading about the Phuket Sandbox.............................is that all there is in the news today?

 

Thats it.

"Many plan to go to Chiang Mai and Bangkok next". 

I'm trying to wrap my head around this.  Can you just cruise around in Bangkok as if people weren't literally dying in the streets?

Change Mai.  Are there flights?

This government and its priorities are upsidedown.