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SSA Form 7162 Time Again
jerrymahoney replied to John Drake's topic in US & Canada Topics and Events
Hello Mr.Pib -- Just to note: I had to send a key back to USA for a U-Haul storage locker. Only two keys to the U-Haul cylinder lock and cannot be duplicated. I decided to follow your general advice and sent it regular air mail not registered. Just got arrival notice today (although it may have gotten there earlier) mailed April 23. Note this was a small box containing only the key not a flat envelope So maybe for this upcoming 2024 7162 follies I will heed your advice and just go the no-register route. R/ Jerry M. -
Michael Cohen Takes Center Stage in Trump's Hush Money Trial
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Supreme Court refuses to take up Stormy Daniels appeal in defamation case against Trump Updated 10:15 AM EST, Mon February 22, 2021 The Supreme Court on Monday declined to take up a defamation case that the adult movie actress known as Stormy Daniels filed against former President Donald Trump, leaving in place lower court rulings that went against her. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-stormy-daniels/index.html -
Michael Cohen Takes Center Stage in Trump's Hush Money Trial
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Note to the above: Trump’s New York trial: Where’s the crime? by Andrew Cherkasky & Katie Cherkasky, opinion contributors - 05/14/24 2:00 PM ET https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4662514-trumps-new-york-trial-wheres-the-crime/ -
Michael Cohen Takes Center Stage in Trump's Hush Money Trial
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
This obscure N.Y. election law is at the heart of Trump’s hush money trial Prosecutors say a misdemeanor state conspiracy statute spells out the underlying crime Trump aimed to conceal when he made hush money payments in 2016. May 6, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT An obscure New York state election law that has rarely been prosecuted over five decades has been dusted off by Manhattan prosecutors and elevated to a prominent role in Donald Trump’s criminal trial over allegedly falsifying documents related to a hush money payment during the 2016 election campaign. Attorney Martin E. Connor, a former New York state senator, suggested that statute 17-152 is seldom prosecuted because most defendants in such cases also commit more serious crimes and face felony charges. “Things that might technically fit that [statute] would get prosecuted as bigger crimes,” said Connor, who has practiced law in New York for 53 years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/06/trump-hush-money-trial-election-law/ ****** Or as another NY State election law attorney said elsewhere as to why 17-152 has rarely if ever been prosecuted to wit: If you decide to influence an election by fire-bombing your opponent's election HQ, you are going to be charged with felony arson -- not bothering to charge with some election law violation. -
DOJ Seeks 40-Year Sentence for Pelosi's Husband's Attacker
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Existing records do not show Paul Pelosi’s alleged attacker David DePape told investigators they engaged in sexual relations and argued over drugs By Reuters Fact Check November 2, 20228:21 PM GMT+7 Updated 2 years ago https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N31Y148/ -
DOJ Seeks 40-Year Sentence for Pelosi's Husband's Attacker
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
True. But Joe Schmoe would not have received federal charges. And the defendant said he was looking for Ms. Pelosi, not her husband. -
DOJ Seeks 40-Year Sentence for Pelosi's Husband's Attacker
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
The current verdict was for federal charges November 17, 2023, 4:08 AM DePape, 43, was arrested at the scene and subsequently charged with attempted kidnapping and assault on account of a federal official's performance of official duties. The charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years and 30 years, respectively, in prison. He has pleaded not guilty. DePape also faces state charges in the incident. He pleaded not guilty to state charges including attempted murder, residential burglary and assault with a deadly weapon. A state trial date has not yet been scheduled. https://abcnews.go.com/US/paul-pelosi-hammer-attack-federal-trial-verdict/story?id=104879502 -
Actually this started when I said "denied" to the statement: "these things cannot be denied. NY State law says that using fraudulent accounting for the purpose of influencing an election is a felony." And both the above and the post you quote leave out the word 'intent' which is in the actual stattute. And "intent" can mean that the defendant had to know what he was doing otr intending todowas illegal.
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e It is 2 separate statutes: One is the charge 34 times in the indictment and the other is the "another crime" election charge. The election charge says "by unlawful means" and the Prosecution has never said what is unlawful means. And it seems since enacted in 1976 there is no case or established precedent as to what is "unlawful" in the context of that statute. Some experts have written, regardless of the evidence presented by either side, this whole case will depend just how the Judge decides to explain this convoluted series of charges to the Jury. In 2013, Antonin Scalia made a remarkable admission at oral argument in the Supreme Court when he said, "this campaign finance law [the Federal Election Campaign Act] is so intricate that I can't figure it out." NY State law in this instance is turning out much the same as a big liberal think tank ended their analysis of this Trump case by asking: Clear as mud?
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Why the hush money case against Donald Trump is on shaky ground
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
You can comment on anything you want. But this is a complicated case using a NY State Statute for which there is no case precedence. I try to unravel the 4-tier alleged crime case looking at the statutes and what legal scholars even those favoring the Bragg prosecution have to say. And nothing is clear in that Bragg has not completely identified what was the "unlawful means" in the election statute cited. Or as the one generally pro-prosecution analysis put it: Clear as mud. So you do it your way and I'll do mine. -
Why the hush money case against Donald Trump is on shaky ground
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
'Key testimony'. Is that a legal term or a layman's term? -
Why the hush money case against Donald Trump is on shaky ground
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
You also said a few days ago following the accountants' discusiion: Game set & match. I guess that was in layman's sense as well. -
Why the hush money case against Donald Trump is on shaky ground
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
This is from what otherwise is a generally pro-prosecution article: Maybe clear as mud? Bragg’s legal theory is genuinely tangled—though the district attorney’s office is doing its best to untangle matters. Whether he’ll be able to walk the jury through it is no certainty. -
Why the hush money case against Donald Trump is on shaky ground
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
The statute at issue doesn't contain the word influence although that is a reasonable description. Even so, it specifies influence by ILLEGAL MEANS but the prosecution has not hinted as yet what are the illegal means and the statute itself has little or zero case history as to what has been illegal means in prior case history. -
Why the hush money case against Donald Trump is on shaky ground
jerrymahoney replied to Social Media's topic in World News
In (his) opening argument, the prosecutor Matthew Colangelo still evaded specifics about what was illegal about influencing an election, but then he claimed, “It was election fraud, pure and simple. If the Prosecution used the word "fraud", they were using it in the layman's sense, not a legal sense. -
It is not 'a' NY State statutes: It is TWO NY State statutes.The above is a rendering of two separate laws as one. The first law is the one regarding the 34 entries. It specifies 'intent': § 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree. A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. As to 'intent' S 110.00 Attempt to commit a crime. A person is guilty of an attempt to commit a crime when, with intent to commit a crime, he engages in conduct which tends to effect the commission of such crime. 'Intent' as above is generally interpreted to mean the person knew in advance that he or she was committing a crime. Since the primary "another crime" (as identified by Prosecution 23 APR 2024) in this case is one that, since its enactment 1976, has rarely or never been prosecuted, it is hard to say Trump knew he was committing it. That (an)other crime has now been identified as New York Consolidated Laws, Election Law - ELN § 17-152. Conspiracy to promote or prevent election "Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor." The rendering above left out the 'by unlawful means'. The Prosecution has yet to say what are the unlawful means. And since this law was enacted in 1976 there is little if any case law that would give some idea as to what has been considered under this law as "unlawful" in prior cases. So the structure of the Prosecution's case seems to be: Crime, within a crime, within a crime.
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Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger countered that "the details of her story are important" while saying the prosecution will not ask about "certain details that might be too salacious." She said Daniels would be asked to testify about "how she ended up engaging in a sexual act." "It's not going to include any details about genitalia or anything of that nature," Hoffinger said. Judge Juan Merchan acknowledged Necheles' point that Daniels has "credibility issues," but said that supported prosecutors' need "to elicit certain details that led to the sexual encounter." https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-trial-testimony-bookkeeping-gag-order-contempt/