MrMojoRisin

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hamas ignored all international laws in their terror attack on Isreal

They sure did.

Keep working backwards.

You'll find many more breaches by both sides.

All the way back to the start of zionism in 1897.

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hamas intentions were to settle on the Israeli land and steal land from Israel 

If I steal your car and then you later on repossess it - have you then stolen my car?

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Once again , this war started on 7 th October, although were previous hostilities between the two  including other wars .

7 th October this war started 

Before 7 th October , confrontations that weren't part of this war 

Wrong.

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Do stop posting links that you need to sign up for to read  ,   thanks 

There is no pay wall or sign in.

Obviously getting things right is a bit difficult for you, but do try harder.

Thanks.

38 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   So when you say "carpet bombing" , you don't actually mean it in the sense of how the rest of the World perceives that word , its just a good powerful word to say that gets peoples attention , rather like "Genocide" "Apartheid" "War crimes" and its a way to get a response 

Basically, yes.

But more than getting a reaction, the intention is to convey my personal moral position.

Hiding behind technicalities when children are being blown to pieces is just not my style.

The main difference with the use of terms such as apartheid, genocide and war crimes (no need for quotation marks) when discussing Israel is that they are pretty much main stream accepted facts. Google Israel and apartheid for example and you'll get over 29,000,000 results.

In short:

Carpet bombing = hyperbole

Apartheid, genocide and war crimes = reality

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

That's a young man with a sling. Every normal person knows that. Only jew haters dont.

Jew haters?

🤷‍♂️

All I can do is shake my head.

How...., unsurprisingly wrong and pathetic.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

you are justifying, what would be considered war crimes today.

It appears that whether a particular act is a war crime or not depends upon who the perpetrator is.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That info has already been established and stated numerous time 

Where? When?

Not even the Israeli's have that answer yet.

In a post on social media platform X, Netanyahu wrote, "I was wrong. Things I said following the press conference should not have been said and I apologise for that. I give full backing to all the heads of the security arms."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/benjamin-netanyahu-apologises-for-blaming-israels-security-services-for-october-7-hamas-assault/articleshow/104805564.cms

1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

JDAM ordnance costs a heap of money and Israel doesn't have an unlimited supply. So I'll hazard a guess and say that most or all of the bombs hit their intended targets, as opposed to the IAF just flying around looking for targets of opportunity.

Your guesses are worth zero.

I'll hazard a guess and say due to the lack of legitimate military targets, the IAF literally just flew around and drop bombs anywhere they could get a kill to sate their desire for vengeance.

1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said:

Why there were civilians in the area when the bombs hit? Best ask the leader of Hamas who uses his supposed brothers and sisters as human shields and blows them up when they try to leave.

Because the bombs hit residential areas.

1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said:

At any rate, your description of the Israeli bombardment as "carpet bombing" is just plain wrong therefore hard to take anything you say seriously.

I was very clear that I was using the term carpet bombing based upon my own subjective view on the matter. It maybe hyperbolic, but the situation demands such language. If the roles were reversed and it was the Palestinians with US supplied state of the art weaponry levelling Israeli residential areas I would be saying the exact same thing about them.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

You claim one dead baby it too many, but apparently thousands of dead Jewish babies are not enough for you. 

How have you arrived at that conclusion?

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

The words from a Hamas apologist 

I have never used the ignore button or report button.

Never.

Not once.

Years and years debating with pro Thai junta numpties and I’ve never even been tempted to ignore someone.

Guess what?

3 minutes ago, transam said:

So you support, have no problem with the murdering of Thai folk working in Israel when Israel is trying to catch them.....?

You are a disgrace......😒

What are you on about?

How can you read the post you are responding too and arrive at the conclusions you have.

🤷‍♂️

It is absolutely nonsensical.

Bizarre.

What is wrong with you?

2 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

Of course it does. Area bombing is indiscriminate, at least within the fairly tight target range. 

 

Israel are using precision laser-guided missiles and are targeting specific buildings/infrastructure, not sending up a squadron of BUFFs and flattening the joint. Not that they have a bomber squadron, USA keeps that stuff to themselves.

 

At least they're making half an attempt to minimize civilian casualties, unlike the terrorist death cult they're fighting against.

Precision laser guided missiles and yet 3,000+ dead babies.

How gullible (or prejudiced) does one have to be to hide behind such transparent idiocy.

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Do you add anything to the topic aside from who you have on ignore?

You know quite well you are on his ignore list so your post is a rather silly waste of time for everyone, including you.

How old are you?

Surely not an adult?

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So I'll take that as a no, that you do not have anything to back up your claim that you conveniently and dishonestly deleted in your lazy response.  

 

You claimed: "If there was no oppression, land theft and subjugation of Palestinians by Israelis there would not have been an attack by Hamas.". 

 

You are not able to support that claim, so you (as usual) have just posted more nonsense. 

 

Indeed, a one-trick-pony, repeating the same unsupported lies over and over. 

 

How many Jewish babies have to die before you're happy? 

 

 

Cookies and flowers, everything else is an antisemitic lie.

Zero babies from either side is the only number that would make me happy. I can answer this question quite easily as many times as you ask it.

3 minutes ago, transam said:

You are a fool, just searching the Net for something to suit your agenda, and making statements that are as daft as yourself.  

 

So it seems you have no problem with your team slicing the heads off babies, all part of your war, thanks for the clarification.......😯

Barbaric is how I described the beheading of babies.

I will do you a favour and post the definition of barbaric as you clearly don't know what the word means.

Just for you:

2 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

But then you know the IDF has not sought a 'collective punishment' as you suggest rather they worked hard to  warn civilians before attacks and even ask those in northern Gaza to move south out of harms way and about 700,000 did.  

 

Considering what happened, stopping Hamas is self defense. 

Nonsense.

If Putin asks Ukrainians to leave before attacking does that make Russia's invasion of Ukraine "self defence"?

If stopping Hamas is "self defence" why did Netanyahu support Hamas so staunchly.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Accurately inform........Bwaaaaaaaah, yeh, your type............😂

Give it a try.

Read some pro-Palestine articles.

Watch some pro-Palestine videos.

Better yet, watch some interviews/debates where both sides are represented by well informed proponents.

1 minute ago, transam said:

You don't even know what carpet bombing means, or twist it to suit your agenda.

 

But what I do find strange about you, is there is no mention of babies with no heads via the hands of the people you support, strange that.

 

Though, a bloke spouting stuff to a newspaper or channel that equates to nothing in actual actions, is your MAJOR point....😂

 

Back to the shed, Mr. Mojo.........🛠️

One man's carpet bombing is another man's right to defend themselves.

Every single square inch of this topic has columns and columns of text promoting one sides views, whether truthful or not, and denouncing their opponents views, whether truthful or not, that only a fool would take anything at face value.

Does the definition of the bombing really matter when the death toll of innocents is already so high. However the Israeli bombing is defined, whatever name is given to it, it does not change the fact that it is just as barbaric as Hamas cutting the heads off babies and burning families alive and gunning down festival attendees.

A bloke, or a former Chief Rabbi?

This article is over a decade old but it illustrates the fanaticism on both sides.

Anyone who thinks their side is the good guys in this is 1000% wrong.

Both sides are as awful as each other.

1 minute ago, Trippy said:

It's only western morality that assumes that Palestinians are innocent civilians. In fact they are indoctrinated at a very young age to hate and want to murder all Jews and anybody living in Israel. It started before Israel even became a country, the Palestinian leader met with Hitler and asked if he would kill all the Jews in the Middle East like he was doing in Germany. 

 

The only things Israel is guilty of, is self-defence and demanding the right to exist. 

So all Palestinians, from a very young age, are legitimate targets?

Does the same logic apply to the victims of Hamas's terrorist attack?

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Probably, for something to aid your agenda, eh............😉

Yes.

My agenda is to be accurately informed on the topic.

That would be very hard to do without scouring reputable sources from all sides.

Give it a try.

Just now, transam said:

Is Israel carpet bombing....?    Just yes or no will do.......🤗

Literally?

I am not sure as I am not aware of the precise definition and how it is measured.

Practically?

Yes!

As far as my personal opinion goes - any bombing of residential areas is carpet bombing.

I guess it all comes down to the difference in our morals and how much value we place on human life, particularly if the humans being bombed don't look, sound or act like us.

Lower your standards enough and I'm sure it is quite easy to see all types of bombing of "enemies" as acceptable, even agreeable.

What of the fact that Hamas are not the only fanatics, that Israel also has it's own fair share of them, up to including Chief Rabbi's