My argument is clearly laid out if you care to read it, I don't see how it's a problem to ask for a source or a link to a statement, I think it's even in the rules of the forum. If you won't or cannot site the source you use that's up to you, but it hardly backs up what you are claiming. You clearly have little or no idea what you are talking about, so just use information from somewhere, who knows where. Yes there is a lot of information online giving various opinions. Mine is that the whole Carabao image is something of a fraud, even if it had some legitimacy 40 years ago. Keeping the band going to fight capitalists, what could be more hypocritical?