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Silly question but are they obligated to take kill shots on shooters? Wouldn't have taken out his legs put him out of service enough to end the threat and then we could learn about his motives PLUS life in prison is really a much harsher punishment than instant death. Also, if hopefully Trump loses and faces the legal consequences he deserves, they could have been prison buddies.

I definitely accept that this has increased Trump's chances. I don't buy your deep state BS.

God forbid. If so, kiss democracy Goodbye. Note that Mike Pence who has not endorsed Trump is in that video.

Yes but that reminds me of what grand olde queene Quintin Crisp said about his dirty flat which he never cleaned. Once it reached the highest level of dirty it didn't get any dirtier. Trump was already the highest level of dangerous.

Maybe. I think by the time they were getting Trump off stage they had already killed the shooter. So they weren't risking their lives at that point. HOWEVER, I consider it the job of the secret service to protect the candidate. I DO NOT consider it the job of the secret service to assist a politician in staging a PROPAGANDA stunt. That's indeed what they ended up doing. I don't really blame them. Trump is so good at that kind of thing that it would have been impossible for them to really not play along with that stunt.

Dr. Ruth died too. I do think that the maga fascist Trump white Christian nationalists who already worship Trump as a deity will see his very close call as a sign from God. Crazy but you know they will.

Compare and constrast the reactions to political violence (maga fascists vs. democrats):

So he's a martyr now. Project 2025 here we come.

Dick Cavett was great. Yes they had some intelligent television back then. Don't freak, people said Negros back then. James Baldwin didn't become an idol for me until adolescence though. i

I think it was too close (one inch) NOT to talk about it.

Even though I definitely do regard Trump as a fascist and do think if he comes to power again (which most including me think is more likely after this shooting) American democracy is finished, I am definitely very much against political violence from any side. That said, I'm wondering about a counterfactual historical premise. IF the bullet that grazed Trump's ear had hit, what would the political effect be in the US and the world? Who would the republicans then nominate? Would it mean the republicans were bound to win the election without Trump? Would it have meant civil war? I understand if some people don't think it's OK to talk about this here and now, but my point is that we were basically ONE INCH from that becoming reality.

I can see that you're all hot and bothered about this but the inconvenient truth is that the Trump / Maga / Project 2025 cult of personality movement IS a fascist movement. Ex-Labor Secretary Robert Reich Answers The Question: 'Is Donald Trump A Fascist?' | HuffPost Latest News

No not false. Real bullets. Almost killed Trump and killed at least one audience member. Trump isn't brave enough to go for such a dangerous stunt.

True and a few of those fascist goons already have.

Not irrelevant at all. He's a republican right wing gun fanatic. If had been a Democrat the maga fascists would be accusing Biden of ordering a hit.

You intentionally posted that pandemic era photo to mock Biden.

You're living in the past Bubba.

Yes.

No.

I don't agree with the right wing "definition" of woke pushed here. It's simply a sloppy attack word meant to often successfully shut up people. https://archive.ph/KWwOu Opinion: The war on ‘woke’ is meaningless, which is why it’s so popular

Yes.

The latest from Washpo. It was real bullets. Mr. Trump's ear was grazed. Audience member shot dead. Another audience member in serious condition. Shooter shot dead.

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