The Cyclist

He cannot. He is a dyed in the wool Yuman Rites Lawyer, its in his DNA. That is why his warcry was ' Smash the gangs ' and not ' Stop the illegals ' But the gangs are laughing at him, by offering Xmas specials and over 1000 have arrived since Xmas day. Not even a year in the big chair, and you will be gone at the next GE.

Take it from a Brit. This is utter garbage. Reform or no Reform, the Tories were getting spanked at the last GE, Independentsnwould have made more gains Labour have not yet had a year in the big chair, and have already consigned themselves to defeat at the next GE. The sight of exploding heads and Tsunamis of salty tears will be a joy to behold IF Reform / Farage win the next GE, and on current trajectory, that is looking likely.

Uh - Huh Yes, that is the point Which makes a complete mockery of your So how does making improvements in Africa and the ME account for illegals from Albania, Georgia, Vietnam, Turkey, Sri Lanka ?

Some of those Countries fought long, hard wars, where many people died to gain their Independence from the UK. I don't think Vietnam, Albania, Brazil and a host of others, were Countries that had to fight wars against the UK to gain their Independence. So you might want to rethink your comment.

Cannot argue with your figures, cannot agree with your methodology. I cannot for life of me see how 30,000 retiree expats would be liable for 50,000 in Thai Tax a year. Those that might be liable for such an amount, would have already adjusted their finances to ensure that they were not paying that amount. In theory, it is possible, reality says otherwise.

That wasn't my perspective at all. If I was required to file a tax return, even if there was no tax liability, I would make the effort once a year to file a tax return. I have no intention of getting into the bad books of the tax revenue department, in Thailand or anywhere else.

You're out of date, out of touch and out of your depth From that well known Right Wing mouthpiece, otherwise known as the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r8q99vx1ko

By Christ, The exploding heads are out early this morning. Keep spewing that hatred children. It is the very thing that drives him and drives people to Reform.

Yes, I get your point. The figures you quoted from the BP of some 3. something million actual taxpayers out of a population over 70 million is abysmal, to put it politely. But this is mostly a Thai thing and for the Thai's to sort out. And I dont believe that expanding the Thai tax net was aiming for expat retirees, they are a by product, some of whom will get swept up in the net, by accident more than design. I will go further and say that expat pensioners will add next to nothing to the tax take. For the following reasons. 1. Many will not have to register and pay tax ( DTA's ) 2. Those that do have to register will pay very little or nothing due to tax credits & TEDA's. 3. The ' some wealthy pensioners ' that you mention, have had the best part of 18 months to re-adjust their finances to ensure that they will not pay Thai tax. As a direct example of the ( mistaken idea of a ) wealthy pensioner. In comparison to a Thai minimum wage worker I am probably wealthy. Compared to the Musks, Ma's and Gates of the World, I am a pauper in comparison. For reason No1 given above, I will neither filing a tax return or paying any tax. And I'm guessing, that the above will apply to a large majority of retiree expats.

Its a red herring in terms of retiree expats. The above figures are mainly Thais with a sprinkling of foreigners legitimately working in Thailand. For the purpose of these tax threads for expats. The only pertinent point is that there is people filing tax returns who do not pay tax. And only pertinent to a small number who struggle with the difference between assessable income and taxable income.

Which is what I said right at the start. In this case, with the change in administration in the US, I don't knowif this has happened, especially with some some of Trumps team openly calling Mandelson a moron.

This is not normally announced until the appointment has been cleared by the US side. A protocol that goes back decades.

As I said, the normal protocol is to....

Can I just point out that Mandelson is not the new US Embassador, until the thumbs up is given by the Trump administration. Normal protocol is to have this cleared prior to making the announcement. Whether, in this case, this has been done or not, I have no idea.

OMG. The BP, for the 1st in history of the printed media, might have printed something erroneous. Never happened before, no sirreeeee. The printed figures tell you that what they had actually printed was wrong. 9 million filed 3 million paid tax 6 million paid nothing. Rounded to the nearest million.

What does the Thai Revenue code say about thresholds for tax filing ? They are the actual tax authority not the BP. Have an issue, present your @rs* to your local RD office and fight your corner. Go on, be a hero.

What is wrong with yours ? Give it up now, before I draw the conclusion that you have caught a bad dose of Listeritus.

That seems to be gaining traction. The unintended consequences of shooting at a drones.

Yes, I can. Not convinced that you can. Limits for filing a tax return is 60 / 120 / 220k baht, depending on type of income and whether filing as an individual or a couple. Source TRD ( The actual Tax people ) Limits for actually starting to pay tax equates to an average salary of 25,000 baht a month ( as reported in the BP ) or 300,000 baht a year. The exact figure will depend on your individual circumstances and what your Individual TEDA's are. ( This information can also be found on the TRD website, the actual tax people ) 2 different limits, that have 2 distinct, but very different meanings. I cannot really make it any easier for you to understand.

You best take that up with the lunatic climate change scientists then. I don't just sit here and make crap up. It would appear that a lot of the hand wringing climate change scientists have been removed

Sarcasm and irony not your thing then 😀😀

Hamburg, Germany, less than a year ago

How odd The Climate Change scientists are howling that mankind will end in about 100 years at most.

Are they ? They are reporting that 25,000 baht a month is the average threshold where Income tax starts to be paid. Are you just being rather obtuse, or trolling for effect ? The filing requirements are laid down in the TRD as being 60k / 120k / 220k depending on the type of income, and whether you file as an Individual or jointly. All clear so far, you keeping up the back ? The 25,000 baht a month income ( which you extrapolated to 300k a year ) is the average threshold where rax kicks in and you have to pay moolah to the Revenue Department. Filing thresholds, are not the same as tax paying thresholds. They are 2 very seperate and distinct thresholds.

Being in a Condo, I would suggest taking up something that gets you away from the general area of the Condo. Buy a bicycle, take up golf, anything to widen your circle.