Hawaiian

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody expects perfection.

Then count yourself as among the wise.  Expecting perfection often ends in great disappointment.

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Your right.

Just thought I would try forum on off chance some Oz person has had same email..

I mean here is my last transfer.

Seems to be money into my Wise Wallet then instantly to my Thai bank.

Just when you think you have it sorted something else pops up.

First of all I would verify it's not a scammer fishing for information.  Malwarebytes  is reporting AI generated phoney Google websites.  Not sure how it works, but a friend of ours in Bangkok has one of her customers reporting money lost from such a website.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm fine with Rubio.

I don't agree with some of his policy positions especially about him not being strong enough about defense of Ukraine, but can't expect great agreement with any republican.

He's well qualified.

The vast majority of Trump's picks are not qualified at all.

It would be a dream if all of his picks were as qualified as Rubio.

But no. Nothing like that.

Perfection is in the eye of the beholder.

5 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Nort adding a link because they are broken here anyway. But yes it is a matter of commonly known fact that Rubio has been confirmed.

He will make an excellent Secretary of State. 

As for the links, some work and some don't.  I've tested most of my posted links.  They work fine until posted on AN.  It's becoming very frustrating.  Not a good deal for AN advertisers who pay for an anticipated audience.

48 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Please show me where I mentioned the use of napalm and agent orange.  You can't because I didn't.

The mining of Haiphong Harbor was off the table until the end.  If the U.S. had bombed military targets in Hanoi things might have ended differently.

In the Korean Conflict we were not allowed to go after Chinese troops when they crossed the Yalu.

 

 

I stand corrected.  The U.S. did bomb Hanoi, but was not allowed to attack its air defense system.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-20/saudi-arabia-mbs-strengthened-as-iran-influence-decimated-by-gaza-war-fallout

Link leads to a page that offers a free access to this article.  Just follow the directions.

14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are falsely  trying to claim that Palestinians  didn't start the war and you are trying to excuse Hamas war crimes and atrocities  by falsely  claiming that Israel did the same .

   Palestinians started this war and Palestinians are the only side to commit war crimes .

  Stop being dishonest by claiming otherwise 

Agree. There is a difference between grievances that led to the present Gaza conflict and the date the conflict actually started.

This is similar to the actual date the U.S. declared war on Japan in WWII.

15 hours ago, Hummin said:

You call war crimes usage of napalm and agent orange   in indochina war restrictions? Bombing villages, killing civilians? Genocide?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/did-america-commit-war-crimes-in-vietnam.html

 

 

Please show me where I mentioned the use of napalm and agent orange.  You can't because I didn't.

The mining of Haiphong Harbor was off the table until the end.  If the U.S. had bombed military targets in Hanoi things might have ended differently.

In the Korean Conflict we were not allowed to go after Chinese troops when they crossed the Yalu.

16 minutes ago, olongapo said:

Most live in the uk.

One estimate says 60,000 in 2017, out of 14.5 million Palestinians worldwide.

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I admire the faith you place in Wiki........

 

Press Release  01.17.2025

 

Numerous Anti-Israel Wikipedia Editors, Including Instigators Who Targeted ADL, Banned Following Investigation

ADL calls on Wikipedia to immediately begin undoing harms by rogue editors
New York, NY, January 17, 2025 … ADL (the Anti-Defamation League) today welcomed the disciplinary action taken against multiple editors by the Wikipedia arbitration committee in the wake of a massive effort by anti-Israel editors to spread misinformation and hate across the platform.

https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/numerous-anti-israel-wikipedia-editors-including-instigators-who-targeted

 

But back on topic, even with a ceasefire in place the real terrorists Hamas are still carrying out multiple daily war crimes by holding onto innocent Israeli hostages.

 

 

Sad that there are low-life's out there undermining Wikipedia's credibility.   They need to be blacklisted.

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    And seem to have mass support of the Population .

Gazians could easily over throw  Hamas if they wanted to  

Who has mass support of the population?  Very conflicting post, or am I missing something.

8 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Really? Hamas fighters are still very much present in Gaza.

Agree.  While the anti-Hamas sentiment may be growing, it will be a long, long time before Hamas is overthrown.  Let Israel finish the job.

15 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I would like to think, that was a different time, same as any other war post ww2, especially the indochina war where primitive methods was used, and how many civilians was killed during the war, and post war

Every conflict the U.S. got involved in after WWII was fought with so many restrictions that they became lessons in futility.  Yes, it definitely was a different time.  That is why applying the same kind of restrictions on Israel will end with same kind of results.  Let Israel finish the job and the Middle East will be a better place for everyone except the terrorists.

33 minutes ago, Hummin said:

We all know and can aknownledge the sickness of people who do such things. It is not question about the raw facts, this was an horrible terror action. What we should discuss, is the power to revenge this terror action, by creating more terrorists! You cant kill them all. 

 

God knows how many times it have been done, for them go back to their caves, tunnels and hiding for next come back bigger and stronger. 

 

All the children growing up in that area, will remember this to they die, same as everyone before them. 

 

The hate is a grufulle heritage of hate and mental damage on both sides. 

It is more than a question of revenge.  It is about destroying an enemy.  What would have happened if the Allies had not defeated the Axis powers?  Today, they are part of the free world with democratic governments. 

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That is a good question. Not sure exactly what I would do. But what I would NOT do is decide to invade my neighbour's farm, murder his parents, rape his daughter, and dance in the streets afterwards as if I were some kind of hero. 

Good answer.  Gazans forget," You reap what you sow."  Committing such atrocities and not expecting any retaliation?  Not so with Israel. 

34 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How will international support help "take out Hamas"? 

Hamas is doomed and is in its death throes.  Why?  What happens when they run out of bullets.  Hezbollah cannot help.  Iran's weapons factory in Syria has been destroyed by Israeli commandos and the new leadership in Syria knows aiding Hamas is self destructive.  The Israeli Air Force will continue to pound the Houthis in Yemen.  The leader of the pack, Iran is facing serious challenges at home just trying to keep it economy going.  And now that its air defense system is barely functioning, if at all, Iran is going to be a sitting duck for the Israelis.  If Trump furnishes Israel with "bunker busting" bombs standby for the fireworks. 

When it is all over the Saudis and Israelis will most likely normalize relations.  A weakened Iran benefits both countries.

21 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/26/g-s1-12949/khalil-shikaki-palestinian-polling-israe-gaza-hamas

Very revealing what the polls say about the inhabitants of Gaza.  The results show the great majority approve of Hamas' terror tactics and atrocities even after 90% of them are now homeless and on the verge of starvation.  No wonder Israel is so determined. 

My mistake was to even pose the question of "consequences" because one would be hard pressed to find anyone who opposes Hamas.

Hard pressed.  But I did find an example of "consequences." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0vewvp14zdo

48 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Like there are consequences for Jews which in public accuse Israel of war crimes. 

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/26/g-s1-12949/khalil-shikaki-palestinian-polling-israe-gaza-hamas

Very revealing what the polls say about the inhabitants of Gaza.  The results show the great majority approve of Hamas' terror tactics and atrocities even after 90% of them are now homeless and on the verge of starvation.  No wonder Israel is so determined. 

My mistake was to even pose the question of "consequences" because one would be hard pressed to find anyone who opposes Hamas.

45 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

20 percent of Israeli citizens are Arabs. 

They could choose to give up their Israeli citizenship but don't. 

Thanks.  I wasn't sure how many.

18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I guess next you will tell us that on 6th October Israelis and Palestinians lived peaceful together with equal rights and all that.

Yeah, sure, and then suddenly those bad Palestinians had this idea to kill Israelis out of the blue and without any provocation... 

Would be interesting to hear from some Arabs who choose to live in Israel and have been granted Israeli citizenship.  There are a bunch of them.

I recall an article in which guy of Arab descent who lived in the West Bank described his ability to travel back and forth and throughout Israel conducting business with Israelis.  He evidently was quite happy with his success. 

Any difficulties Gazans have are the result of the demands imposed by Hamas requiring them to live under Hamas's constitution which calls for the destruction of Israel.  They are obliged to support Hamas' atrocities.  There are consequences for those that don't.

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

Find some odd and rare insect preferably a dung beetle. Issue an executive order to protect it and make everybody in California move with no further explanation. Make them move on foot because of climate change. 

Although similar environmental protectionism exists elsewhere, California's is ridiculously extreme.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And what do you call it when Israel soldiers kill lots of Palestinian children and babies?

Collateral damage? They didn't really want to kill thousands of children, it was an accident? Or what? 

So, exactly what do you expect Israel to do?  Why don't you go over there and convince Hamas to stop using innocent civilians as human shields by hiding out in hospitals, schools and homes.  Yes, it is unfortunate and sad that innocent people are dying, but what is Israel supposed to do?  The world is anxious  to hear your solution.

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Could you stick to the points that I raised when replying to me  ?

If you want to post about another issue , then please make an indepent post .

I understand the first part of your post addressed the issue, but then you added. " Inhumane. A subspecies, IMO."  Just saying.