Mark1969

My days of hanging out on campus are over. I should have taken that opportunity more when I was younger. I did not realize how lucky I was at that time to be young living in a co-ed college dorm.

I stopped watching most of these vloggers. It's always a cheap grungy room, a cheap drink for 20 baht, etc. A lot of guys come here to retire and live in a nice place, not travel like broke students. What is needed are vloggers with a nice lifestyle, not people walking around ghetto's.

Lowering prices is a loss of face. Look for higher prices.

They are probably still around, it just becomes harder to approach younger fit women as you get older and your mind does not view it as an option. The days of hanging out on campus are probably over for me unless I'm at an alumni reunion.

Are there any attractive women in chiang mai these days? what about near the university?

Are you pud stroking at the mall? That's not allowed.

🤷🏻‍♂️ Who knows? One older guy kept making waving gestures to me near the pool, that sort of thing, every so often when I first moved in. I was sitting up on the veranda alone, not even by the pool, in a location where he could have easily walked over and said hello, but didn't. Kind of like a how are you sort of thing, or like he was having a good time. It happened on more then one occasion. One day I passed him and introduced myself and he was very standoffish, though polite. Since then, no more eye contact or gestures. You never know what's going on in people's heads, especially in Pattaya. Many people are uncomfortable if you say nothing, then if you chat a bit it diffuses that nervous energy.

I don't have a problem with them simply being shirtless. It's when they kind of approach or look like they want to interact with me that bothers me. When sitting by the pool I keep getting these guys walking past in front of me when they could go around, or making eye contact if I'm exiting the area that way with clothes on. Or, I will be walking out and a guy in the pool will turn and stare right at me rather then keep swimming. Stuff like that. You don't eyeball other guys sitting around the pool with just trunks on. That's not normal.

I can't afford it! That could be what I'm projecting onto them and don't want to accept in myself. You're a genius, thank you...

Perhaps it has something to do with a money issue... I'm seeing them as needy or poor and am pushing that away. I experienced the same feeling in Cambodia when I lived there. That feeling of being repulsed and wanting locals to just go away and leave me alone. It felt like they always wanted something from me, or were angling for a profit or something in their own interest, but not owning up to what that was. Putting on a fake smile or friendliness, with a hidden agenda.

Spot on. I could be projecting my own stuff onto others and chose Thai females as a target. I can't figure out what would be unclean inside myself though. I'm not anti-sex. Not anti-prostitute, it's just not for me because I believe it should be freely given. I'm not a prostitute myself so I could not be disowning that and projecting it out towards others. It's also most Thai women (also the guys) so it's not limited to prostitutes or sex issues and I don't have much in common with Thai people.

I notice that also. It felt weird until I understood what the stares were about. It's gay guys. I get guys doing it around the pool here. So it happens with guys with no shirt on, etc.

Too bad they can't speak Engish well when you are paying so much. Those emails sound like a child wrote them.

It could also be guys who are completely drained of excess energy so they come off as acting a bit strange. When they are paying for a full time escort outings for food and such are usually just breaks between sex sessions. They are banging as much as possible to get their money's worth. So you see guys that are drained of sexual energy and not 100% "there", kind of just tired and loafing around, making them zombie-like, just waiting to hit the bedroom again.

I saw a new guy at my condo building in pattaya today. 20 something dude with football build. Looked like a model. I thought what the hell is he doing in Pattaya? Looked pretty strange. Then I saw myself and thought, <deleted> do I look like some old dude now sitting around pattaya? I wanted to say to him, dude what the hell are you doing here? Probably just some guy passing through on his way through thailand.

The "silent meal" thing is as old as chips, nothing new. One of my odd memories when I first landed here probably 20 years ago. Stephen Leather's Thailand novel "Private Dancer" is a great book if you have not read it yet. It talks about a lot of these strange interactions and why they occur here.

I started seeing more of these guys you refer to around my condo, particularly the pool area. Guys with a younger Thai female who kind of tags along and it vibes as a freelancer just by the way the couple interacts. There is something odd about the guys. I can't really call it a power trip but they don't act like other guys who are just hanging out around the area. They keep to themselves and don't interact with other residents, either the dude or the girl. They also don't talk to each other. It's almost always the guy just sunning himself and the lady sitting next to him, but they don't interact. It could be a narcissistic trait. He is kind of in his own world of pleasure and does not care about the outside world or other people around him, but still wants someone hanging around for some reason. The guys also seem kind of "dull" in a way. They don't have a lot of character or "edge" to them. Kind of like dudes you would just forget about after meeting them, or people you would not bother talking to. It's hard to describe other then they don't flow as 100% normal acting. Your right, it does beg the question why they want a hired partner hanging around and doing the "silent meal" thing if they are not having fun or even talking. It's probably not just for appearances, so it could be a control thing. Somebody who just does or goes where they are told, or conversely, somebody who takes control and leads you by a leash everywhere. Both would be a type of control issue. I'm sure there are some guys like this here. It would be interesting to have comments on what they get out of it, particularly the silent partner thing.

hahaha scuba is gay! scuba is gay! go sit in the corner... 🤡

hahaha you're gay! you're gay! go sit in the corner... 🤡

Schoolyard dining hall atmosphere? Your gay!?

If I were really gay I would be attracted to men. As stated in my original post that's not the case. Stop wasting time with nonsense comments.

Not sure what you mean.

Most Thai men are just as bad, but it does not matter (I'm not into men). I don't have the issue with European women. Most European men are Ok, but it does not matter really (I'm not into men).

Why do you eat at the big c pattaya klang food court then?

I don't necessarily want to be away from sex workers. It's more about feeling that Thai women are unclean and potential sex workers, or just something that's spiritually deficient that's symbolized in sexwork but not limited to that. I don't have the issue towards sex workers of other nationalities (at least not as much), so it's not just sex work. The insane part is I'm feeling a generalized revulsion, but not thinking anything at the time and don't have a single reason. There's something going on underneath the surface.