bobbin

Crossy

Thank you for your prompt and clear reply.

I will check out your link but am already feeling relieved that my electrical system won't be a problem!

Wow. I just ran the TV Speedtest after reading this thread.

160kBs/39kBs. The usual for the past 10 months that I've been on 512/256 has been about 53kBs.

But I'm still a bit confused. From reading some posts the new cost for 1mbs will be just under 600Baht. I am paying 790+ for the 512/256 service so will my bill go down as my speed goes up?

Darn, I think it's time to learn to read Thai. No fun being illiterate.

I'm glad to see this come up as a new topic. I have tried to wade through the "electrical wiring in Thailand" threads but they got too technical for me. There are some knowledgable posters in that thread but they started talking to each other and left this layman "in the dark."

I'm currently renovating a condo and told the general contractor that I wanted "sai din" or an earthed system with three prong plugs. No problem, he said. But in the above-mentioned threads some people talked about earthed systems that ended up not being "connected".

I was/am going to buy the Saf-T-Cut box. My understanding is that it makes the whole system a GFI (Ground Fault Interupter as we call them in N.America) that in combination with 3 strand wiring will give me what I want. Is this correct?

If I am lucky enough to get a response from the Gurus, could you keep it simple please?

Well unfortunately good news doesnt generate much interest mate. We've posted good news when it comes up, barely looked at!!!!

What exactly is your point here Brit? After you have posted the "clip", good or bad, what do you care how many views it gets? Are you on some kind of revenue-sharing plan, based on eyes-on?

And why is my city the only beneficiary of news vigilantes?

News is News 'bobbin'; there is no need to take offence at the reporting of 'bad news' in Pattaya. Hundreds of people on this forum have responded to news items I and others have posted. Information is essential. By learning what is going on in Pattaya we can be safer and confident in our lives here.

Thank you for your understanding.

Ok, news is news. But are you a news organization? You are more like a re-broadcasting tower, ensuring the "news" reaches a larger audience. Why?

You say that it makes our city safer by having more informed residents. This is a valid argument. But to quote a real news organization..."fair and balanced reporting". The is in no way an endorsement of this particular organization as I believe they are neither, but I think you get the point.

By only high-lighting negative news, you are potentially discouraging new residents who might actually change the demographics of our city. Decent people who might make their home here and squeeze out some of the "yobs" who are heavily over-represented in Pattaya.

Thank you for your understanding.

Well unfortunately good news doesnt generate much interest mate. We've posted good news when it comes up, barely looked at!!!!

What exactly is your point here Brit? After you have posted the "clip", good or bad, what do you care how many views it gets? Are you on some kind of revenue-sharing plan, based on eyes-on?

And why is my city the only beneficiary of news vigilantes?

Absolutely No Way.

Although I am busy working in the Middle East right now, I shall be returning to Pattaya tomorrow and will be assuming control as per usual of the Pattaya News Clippings forum.

It is an essential voice, and Pattaya news, whether good or bad must be reported.

Thank you.

Libya

My question to you is why must this bad news be reported? Actually, it already has been reported, as you and Brit merely copy/paste from other online news sources. Why don't the other local forums have a sub-forum like the Pattaya News Clippings? Is Pattaya the only city in Thailand with crime and mayhem?

And also, i ask why you never "clip" positive news. Are you a "bad news junkie"?

Argh. Can't correct my spelling in topic title.

Topic title and description sum up my feelings on this sub-forum. I was never a fan of the idea anyway. I think it grew out of one or two posters who insisted on posting every bad news story they could cull from the local rags.

It always seemed a bit masochistic to want to have a bad news forum. Only the Pattaya forum has it. Why not the other local forums? Because their moderators had no pressure to set one up.

Thanks for the reply but I dont need a big bike to compensate for a small penis. Mine is quite big enough thanks. A 150 is big enough for what I want to do.

Being a big girls blouse you wouldnt need a penis ha ha ha ha ha ha

This from a guy that paid over a million baht for a British motorcycle!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

And well happy to have done best bike I've ever owned. And you own??????????????????

my point being lots of bigger better bikes about like http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...=140096&hl=

I own several bikes and even a small town bike. I just think the 150 is a bit like non alchoholic lager / beer If you are going to drink you might as well have a proper one

I own a CBR 150 of course! When you dissed the machine that has given me almost 5 years of trouble-free riding and took the opportunity to make fun of someone who was only looking for some information, you left yourself wide open for my "ha ha ha" response.

The Japanese motorcycle manufacturers ran Triumph out of the business. Sure, they have tried to resurect the brand but it is a small and inconsequential niche player now.

Thanks for the reply but I dont need a big bike to compensate for a small penis. Mine is quite big enough thanks. A 150 is big enough for what I want to do.

Being a big girls blouse you wouldnt need a penis ha ha ha ha ha ha

This from a guy that paid over a million baht for a British motorcycle!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Sanitizing the Go-Go establishments IS a big deal.

The police go through the motions of enforcing the laws on the books every low season. Every high season they revert to a more "laissez-faire" approach.

The Go-Go business has been evolving all along. The current situation is that the clubs are now paying quite reasonable salaries due to the competition for talent. Salaries in the region of 15-20,000+ baht per month are common for the girls that "show". Add in tips and commisions from "lady drinks", and the result is many are content not to indulge in off-premises activities.

To the point, I am a male. I am hard-wired to enjoy the sight of nud_e women. If there are no nud_e women in Go-go bars, then there is no reason for me to go there. Bikinis? Not interested. Duct tape? Not interested.

We are all born naked. Wanting to look at naked women is natural. Wanting to stop me from looking at naked women(with their permission ) is not natural. This is, of course, my opinion.

Degradation? Grinding poverty is degrading.

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I want to join your event, not start my own.

Then buy a bigger bike. Or rent one for the day. Its pretty simple- a big bike run is for big bikes.

The cut-off was 250cc. The Honda CBR is 150cc. Kawasaki Boss 175cc. The Honda Phantom is 200cc. There is no Thai motorcycle that qualifies. See my sub-title to the thread.

Any of the above Thai bikes are capable of staying with the pack.

No response Bobbin? lets say i am hardly surprised, talk is cheep, money buys ambulances.

Gremlin

While I appreciate the offer to help organize an "also Run" event, it does not respond to my original post.

Why am I not welcome to participate in your Run simply because the engine in my motorcycle is smaller than the engine in your motorcycle?

Your previous suggestion to simply donate my Baht 1000 to your charity while accepting the fact that I won't be allowed on your Run is disingenuous.

Disingenuous: definition. not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating

Both of your suggestions merely reinforce your non-inclusive policy.

Why are my choices either to donate without the fun part or organize my own Run? I have already posted that I am pleased you raised Baht 400,000. This acknowledges your efforts and the planning that went into the event.

I want to join your event, not start my own.

Gremlin

I'm honestly pleased to hear that your Charity Run raised 400,000 Baht. My point was that if you had been more inclusive you would have raised much much more.

There are literally hundreds of Pattaya residents who ride the 150-200cc Thai made bikes. Many of us are true motorcycle enthusiasts who enjoy the two-wheel experience, which is the same no matter what machine you are riding.

Your groups could have acted as Road Marshals.

BTW, I have often times been on Runs many times larger than 150 bikes.

In your Dream(s)

You first!!

And BTW this was not a Jesters sponsored Run. They have proved themselves to be very community-minded, and my (crash) hat is off to them.

The sponsors of this run included Mad Dogs , Bad Boys etc and my original description of their style stands.

They can't find me thru this forum can they?

There is a Charity Run being held here in Pattaya today, with the proceeds going to one of the several worthy causes here. The entry fee is Baht 1000. The farang organizers are a few of the (wannabe Hells Angels) local motorcycle groups (wannabe "outlaws"). They even got some television coverage to publicize the event.

The only problem was that bikes of less than 250cc's were not welcome! So no CBR 150's. no Phantoms or Kawasaki Boss motorcycles.

There is no question the above mentioned bikes are capable of staying up with their "Hogs" on a run. The fact that more money could have been raised for their chosen charity seems not to have been considered. So to bolster their "image" they raise less money to help unfortunates than they could have done if they were more inclusive.

Bad move, boys.

A very interesting read. Always appreciate the fruit of a good mind at work.

As for the negative posters, I am surprised you were willing to go public with that closed-mind mentality. You are the intellectual equivelants of "salad-dodgers"

OK, so I'm only half-way thru my first coffee of the morning, but I'm sitting here scratching my head! My very first post on Thai Visa was inspired by by an OP who felt someone had misled them and misrepresented himself. This was in regard to renting a condo in Pattaya. That OP was able to name the individual that he felt had wronged him and asked for any negative experiences anyone else had had with this man.

My first-ever post was to state that I had rented a condo from the man he was speaking about and had no problems. I asked in that post and in following posts why he was able to name someone in a negative post based on his personal opinion. I also asked that question in 2 seperate posts to the moderators which were never answered. Eventually the thread died out but not until someones name had been splashed repeatedly throughout the thread.

So what is going on, TV mods? Have you had a change of heart in respect to adherence to your own rules?

Damian, I am a fellow Canadian and sympathetic to your situation. I will give you the same advise I gave that OP many months ago. Prepare a short outline of the problem, naming names etc. Then ask everyone to PM you for the details and send them the info privately. If not done in this manner, we all could fall prey to anyone who wants to blacken our name publicly.

Dear Ping

You have been "sand-bagging"?

Why then did you limit yourself to dragging out those tired old arguments you posted in your first post?

Draw upon your expertise to counter my argument that laws are not static. They reflect the times they are written in and are oten re-drawn.

Many countries in the western world are backing away from criminalization, with the notable exception of the USA. Yet to stay on topic, many Asian countries, especially those with close economic ties to the previously noted super-moralizing super-power, have enacted and are enforcing completely disproportionate laws.

As noted in the OP, there are many young Australians who have been caught up the current enforcement. I am sure there are young Europeans in that situation as well. While in their own countries there is a steady trend towards the position I advocate, they find themselves at risk while vacationing in Asia of receiving excessive punishment for actions which have much less severe consequences at home.

Surely it is therefore encumbent upon their Governments to intervene whenever possible on behalf of their nationals.

Time for another coffee.

It's been illegal before as well.

BTW. Google for tobacco and noses cut off. I know I made that comment to Dupont but as I was relying on memory from schooling that took place more than 40 years ago, I did just that and surprised even myself at the gyrations the law has taken with regards to "illegal drugs"

Dupont

I see that like Ping you have trouble with the big picture.

In the give and take of discussions(arguments) on contentious social issues, it is not unexpected that some comments will be made that seem insulting or patronizing. But sometimes it is necessary to shake the complacency of someone who is obviously only repeating what they have been told to think.

Ping refers to junkies robbing to pay for the next fix. You refer to squats left littered with used syringes. Both of these examples are the direct result of criminalization.

The true discusssion has to be much broader. There are many illicit drugs. The question is how to educate people so that they can make informed choices. Our western society attempts to educate citizens to think independently. And many here have critisized the Thai and other Asian educational systems for teaching by rote. Addictive drugs make slaves of their users. There are many addictive drugs. Some are legal at present. Not many find the prospect of addiction to be attractive. This is the kernal of education that people need to hear. From sources they trust to have no agenda.

The markets for these drugs is huge. It is inconceivable that all users are crimnals. If not you that is a customer, it is your brother or neighbour. Most users of most of these drugs are functioning members of society. Some are arrested and after receiving a criminal record find many options in life curtailed. In the USA, you cannot get a student loan if you have a drug conviction. Does this make sense?

At one time or another both alcohol and tobacco have been illegal. If I recall my history correctly, a previous King of your country decreed that the noses of tobacco smokers should be cut off. How long that particular law was enforced I do not recall. Alcohol prohibition in the USA allowed organized crime there to establish a foothold and the financial resources that go with it.

Every military person will tell you that it is foolish to start a war you cannot win. Unfortunately, politicians are not so sensible. They start wars all the time because it suits their short-term agenda. The Drug Wars are one example.

As my ol' grandpappy used to say,"There is more than one way to skin a cat!" There is rarely only one solution to a problem. People like me are merely inviting you to engage your original thinking processes and consider the possibilty that there are other solutions.

Dear Ping

My initial response to your post was a bit abrupt and has as much to do with my aversion to typing at length as anything else.

Several posters have now refered to the "premium of illegality" currently priced into prohibited drugs. Criminal entrepeneurs now reap excessive profits on what in most cases would be reasonably priced products.

Several experiments have shown that prescribed heroin significantly cuts heroin-related crime.

Most of these drugs were available before prohibition. Why did society not crumble?

When prohibition was first enacted, most people had no knowledge of these drugs and accepted their governments' assertion than criminalizing them was a good thing. Yet up to that point they were freely available and society should have been a mess, as predicted by opponents of harm-reduction. This was the beginning of the indoctrination you suffer from. If you feel strongly about this issue, educate yourself and argue from a position of knowledge.

Your attack on persons who do not support the current stance does you no credit. Continue to attack the message, not the man. That is the high road. No pun intended. This is a reference to the newsman you ridiculed.

Your insistence that the "grandfathered" drugs that you enjoy should be left out of the discussion is the true fallacious argument.

Societal pressure without involving criminal prosecution has been effective in reducing smoking of cigarettes and excessive alcohol consumption. These products are regulated and restricted as to time and place of consumption. This is the correct approach and will in time be shown to be the model for dealing with the current illegal drugs.

Additionally, and with compassion, I would state that there will always be casualties. We cannot save everyone from themselves, as much as some would have you believe is possible. But the current situation is creating far far more victims.

The lack of compassion evidenced by many posters(usually the same ones) no longer surprises me, but continues to sadden me. They may deny it but they are people who find it easy to hate "the other". Every religion advises compassion because so many need to hear the message. They are also hypocrites unless they are following a lifestyle of abstaining from ALL intoxicants and stimulants.

As noted by several posters, the only SANE way to deal with the problems created by over-legislating human behavior with regard to mood-altering substances is education. Education that points out the pitfalls of addictive substances.

The current world climate re "drug policy" is directed and financed by the United States of America. They have it wrong. Anyone who makes the slightest effort to research the history of the "Drug War" will learn that initially it was political pork-bellying to absorb the law-enforment officers displaced by the end of Alcohol prohibition. Another failed policy. As one poster noted above, many of you alcohol drinkers could and would fall afoul of the laws in muslim countries. Many posters have worked and still work in these countries. The production of home-brewed alcohol is one reaction to these laws. Actual production of an "prohibited" intoxicant. If shared with friends, add trafficking to the list.

The "haters" have absorbed the propaganda and merely regurgitate it when the opportunity presents itself. They have never questioned.

I wish I liked to type as much aas I like to talk for I surely could go on at length. When given the opportunity I have often engaged the type of poster i decry. I point out the social and financial costs of pursueing a policy that will inevitably fail in the end. Often they are surprised to find their outlook has broadened.

My hope is that all foreign prisoners have the chance to return to their countries, where one day they will have the chance to recover from an all-to-human mistake.

Bobbin - what about some compassion for the people who would have ultimately ended-up buying these drugs (after having been cut with Gawd knows what)? Traffikers are in the same league as Killers - they intentionally set out on a course of action that they know can be fatal. Hence the penalties. And if they are not paying for their stash by pushing drugs themselves, they are committing armed holdups or breaking into other people's houses causing distress and misery to society. Yet the same old arguments are trotted-out about the evils of alcohol and tobacco. I, for one, do not rob people to pay for my next glass of beer and I have a fair idea that if I buy a mate a beer, it is unlikely he is going to go into convulsions and die of an overdose. It is a fallacious argument (illegal drugs v alcohol, for example) just the same as saying that I should be allowed to smoke in a crowded room because the crowd all drive cars with the exhaust pollution they create. And yes, you are right - I have no pity for these despicable drug traffiking animals.

This is almost classic "regurgitated propaganda". You have not "responded" at all, though you may think you have.

The lack of compassion evidenced by many posters(usually the same ones) no longer surprises me, but continues to sadden me. They may deny it but they are people who find it easy to hate "the other". Every religion advises compassion because so many need to hear the message. They are also hypocrites unless they are following a lifestyle of abstaining from ALL intoxicants and stimulants.

As noted by several posters, the only SANE way to deal with the problems created by over-legislating human behavior with regard to mood-altering substances is education. Education that points out the pitfalls of addictive substances.

The current world climate re "drug policy" is directed and financed by the United States of America. They have it wrong. Anyone who makes the slightest effort to research the history of the "Drug War" will learn that initially it was political pork-bellying to absorb the law-enforment officers displaced by the end of Alcohol prohibition. Another failed policy. As one poster noted above, many of you alcohol drinkers could and would fall afoul of the laws in muslim countries. Many posters have worked and still work in these countries. The production of home-brewed alcohol is one reaction to these laws. Actual production of an "prohibited" intoxicant. If shared with friends, add trafficking to the list.

The "haters" have absorbed the propaganda and merely regurgitate it when the opportunity presents itself. They have never questioned.

I wish I liked to type as much aas I like to talk for I surely could go on at length. When given the opportunity I have often engaged the type of poster i decry. I point out the social and financial costs of pursueing a policy that will inevitably fail in the end. Often they are surprised to find their outlook has broadened.

My hope is that all foreign prisoners have the chance to return to their countries, where one day they will have the chance to recover from an all-to-human mistake.

Hello, it seems some of you guy's have "the need for speed" from a Honda cbr 150, so here is the answer with pics

Bike: CBR150 2004 completely modified. Engine: Original 150cc, 1 piston, 4 valves watercooled, 4 stroke:

Rebored to 169cc, Stage 3 ported and gas flowed head, twin racing high lift cams, 38mm racing carburettor (standard is only 26mm) jetted for quickness at high revs, Racing CDI (allowing higher revs). Endurance exhaust, Adjustable Racing gear and brake footlevers, Larger rear sprocket Suspension and steering : Front lowered 2 inches, ohlins steering damper (20 settings) can adjust while driving along, keeps the front in line with the back (we all hate that wobble affect) Vee rubber tyres (soft compound) helps keep all the mods stuck to the ground. Hard top rear seat cowl (specially made due not available as spare) gives the racing look but easily changes to carry passenger.

Ok, a bit over the top for me as I have seen an indicated 155kph on mine with only the addition of a high-voltage spark lead BUT I am very interested in the tires and the CDI ignition.

Since you mention Bira racetrack, am I right in thinking you live in or near Pattaya? Where did you get the tires and CDI? Cost?

Would like to see this bike.

And maybe have a little run against it. Have added fully-synthetic oil since the above 155kph run.

Not expecting to beat you with all those mods but nice to see where I stand.

another word.

weenie

Give it a rest weho, you are just wasting bandwidth.