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Eastender

As a life-long native English speaker, I struggle to get your point.

You are definately over-parsing the language here.

I think Canadian labour rates at a dealership are over $100/hr now. They were $90 something 5 years ago!

BMW dealership rates here 2 years ago were Baht 200/hr. Stopped going to the dealership. Too expensive!!

I absolutely hope that View Talay screw these demonstrators for every last baht and that immigration revokes all future visas, good ridance!

So my advice would be to apologise whole heartedly on your knees, whilst you can still call this country we love "Home".

Before I go, can someone contact the Sawang Booriboon body snatchers and tell them to put a large cargo net in front of the JCC, it may catch a few people jumping from their condos when the sh1t really hits the fan.

You fly a false flag.

You are by no stretch of the imagination "jai dee"!!

The German language has a word for it.

Schadenfreud..apologies to our German friends for the spelling. It means to take delight in others misery.

Those JCC owners had already paid in full for their properties and were enjoying the unrestricted views until View Talay managed to pull a fast one. Aided and abetted by the original developer of JCC no less!

You and the other purchasers of VT7 have only only made partial payments to date so the financial stakes of the opposing owners were/are not equal.

You should hang your head in shame.

Magnanamous in victory is the correct approach, Jai Damm.

If I wanted wild animals I should go to the jungle?

As long as you live in Pattaya, you are already in a jungle. More like a trash jubgle, thinking about it.

alexth

You are a one-note warbler. Please return to your sandbox in the Bangkok forum. Adults are playing here.

Jingthing

Uh....take a chill pill, dude!!

Although you ARE sounding a touch hysterical, I suspect it is a Weho-type hysteria.....

Several of us have tried to have a reasonable dialogue with you. You are just stirring the pot now.

Slamming doors is not on, and you are doing newcomers here a dis-service by recommending insulting drivers and disrespecting (yes that is the right word) what is either their property or their responsiblity.

You ask about anyone knowing of a driver using the meter.

I have posted TWICE now that I spoke with a passenger as he got out of the taxi at my condo. The meter WAS used. Baht 100 Central Pattaya to Central Jomtien. No need to ask this question again.

The market will speak as noted by some here already. Come low season we my have more success getting a metered ride, but right now it appears they are maximizing their earning potential.

Keeping on asking for the meter but please refain from slamming doors. It just ain't nice!!

Jingthing

Congrats to you for taking the first step in walking the walk!

Your experience was the same as mine. This does not mean we should stop. Eventually one or many of the drivers will take the bird in the hand so to speak.

However, Bangkok taxi drivers were well known for not using the meters some years ago. Now, for the most part, they do. It is an evolutionary process.

It is not necessary to SLAM the door. The taxi is NOT your property to abuse.

I think our chances for meter use will increase with the end of high season.

My Don Quixote crusade is about the the goal of real taxi service here, with meters, like Bangkok. We aren't there yet.

Jingthing

What is your usual means of transportation? Do you drive a motorcycle or car, or do you use the songthaews?

If you are a bahtbus rider, simply look for a taxi to take you home. That eliminates the problem of finding one when you want to go out.

As the leader of this crusade and the OP, you lose your credibility by making excuses for not not taking the taxis that are already here. And for sure if everyone thought like you there will never be many more of them. For any service to prosper there has to be customers.

And yes, a true crusader would take a taxi ride to nowhere simply to say they have done it.

Don Jingthing

You perceived insult where none was intended. But the question was serious. More than enough time has passed for you to have experienced the latest upgrade to our fair town. One would have thought you would have made it a point to find and patronize those drivers that will use the meter.

But....here comes the shot...you now put me in mind of the officer yelling "Charge men! I'm right behind you!"

Ps guess it's time for a new avatar.

Don Jingthing

Over 2 months ago I posted about speaking to someone just getting out of one of the new taxis and confirmed that the meter was indeed used. 100 Baht from cental Pattaya to central Jomtien.

Just before Xmas I spoke to a taxi driver out front of Villa and asked if he would use the meter to Jomtien. He would not, quoting 150 Baht. He did say that after the New Year they would be using the meter. True or not I don't yet know.

However, I see them regularly. Perhaps I have missed a post from you describing your first trip in the new taxis.

If I have not missed that post and you have never used one, I have a question for you.

When are you going to walk the walk and not just talk the talk?

Pros and Cons-i think you just described most of the population!

Very droll!!

May I use it as a tag line?

Yes, they pulled that scam on me as well. 4 years ago. Never been back since.

An absolute disgrace for a company like Shell, even if a franchise.

The owner has to be in on it for it to continue so long.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Bangers? <deleted>?

Let us hope that this doesn't catch on.

Only idiots call Hong Kong "Honkers". Bangers?

Guaranteed the OP is a Brit.

More surprised he did not refer to Patters as well!

Many Brits can't even pronounce Pattaya correctly even when they use the proper place name.

Oh for the days of Empire. I'm sure they sent out more knowledgeable expats then.

Audi make cars in Thailand ??

And so far I have found german makes very reliable.

I'm pretty sure they were never straight imports, they are CKD - body kits assembled locally. They use Yontrakit plant for that, I believe. That's how they come up with Thai specs, smaller engines, air-con and all.

I'm pretty sure that is true.

Does anybody believe that would be a problem, leaving aside the general level of Thai craftsmanship?

hobby

You are here NOW, monitoring.

You thought you were right, but we think you were wrong.

Your mistake was not going back in with the receipt if you didn't want to pay the Baht 20.

Don't mess up your rep here for Baht 20.

Even if you are lying, you better post that you went back and paid up.

keep on your bashing and brand my point as "silly", still two wrongs don't make one right - overreacted!

Two shot, one in serious condition, one dead!

Very sorry for them!

Can't believe it, even it was "self defense", we got one dead!

Very amazing that a big part of the "audience" condones this, it's lynch-justice!

Samuian

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Every culture and country has the concept of self-defense in the face of mortal danger. To respond with deadly force in defense of the life of loved ones and yourself is the right of every person on this planet. Even pacifists must bow to this reasoning.

To try to defend your initial comments by following up with more drivel makes it all the worse.

European used car market crashed when the oil price went up and is probably still undervalued now. People buying that sort of cars are quite senstive to daily running costs (and spare parts, too). Also keep in mind that entry level models were sold for the brand value only, they offer nothing you can't get from a Japanese car for a lot less.

Since I am thinking of going the used European route, I am open to learning from others.

What exactly is an entry level model anyway? Usually it refers to price-point and is the least expensive model in a particular badge line-up. But here ,surprisingly, the A6 of the same year is often less expensive than the A4. As long as it has a/c and automatic transmission I'm happy, but these models usually have ABS and at least one airbag. Bonus

As for getting a Japanese model for a lot less, I would have to disagree. Referencing 12Car, they price out the same for a given year, more or less. I'll still opt for the better car. Certainly an Audi A6 2.3 or 2.4 is a better car than a Honda City 1.5. Btw, the 2.3 is usually cheaper than the 2.4.

I'll just have to take my chances on the parts as they are more expensive for European. And I'll probably have to sell it on to an expat as they are more likely to see the value.

Well, I've been driving an 1985 BMW 520I for 4 years now. How's that for taking your chances? Had a fair bit of work done on it in that time and have yet to have parts problems. And it's not that common a vehicle here. Worth about Baht 100,000 tops.

It was/is my training car, because when I bought it I thought Thai traffic was crazy and I wanted something solid and inexpensive so I wasn't worried about dings. After 4 years, not a single instance of contact with another vehicle! So I'm thinking it's time to upgrade..a bit.

Mid-90's Audis, both the A4 and A6, are available from Baht 225,000 up, and same vintage Volkswagens are about Baht 150,000 up. I lean to the Audi as there are a lot more on the road. Same vintage Honda City with 1.5 ltr. engine about in the middle. I think German for me.

Probably a little harder to re-sell.

when the CBR 150R is going to catch up with its little brother the CBR 125R?

Features
Racing-style rider's seat with raised pillion seat providing hip support. 
New dual multi-reflector Line Beam headlights directly from the CBR1000RR Fireblade. 
New PGM-FI electronic fuel injection system with Idle Air Control Valve for smooth low-speed throttle response. 
HECS3 oxygen-sensing catalytic low-emissions system. 
Box-section steel swingarm with monoshock damper suspension.

The PGM-FI is what has me most envious, but the updated styling is pretty nice also.

Yes, I would really like to see the fuel-injection option available!! I like the headlight change also.

So why didn't you just ignore the pop-up?

Because you can't "ignore" it. You have to close the window before you can continue.

After a few times, it's easier to hit " download now"

Yes, I have it and have been using it for a week or so now. Almost had to as the pop-up to upgrade came up every time I used it.

But in the install I disabled every "extra" net service they were offering except album art. So it basically acts as did the earlier version. I don't like the trend in media players to hook you up to the net for extras.

BTW, I only use it because of the "play folder" feature. Way easier than highlighting every song on an album.

I have it on good authority that correct pronounciation is PAT THAI YA - the emphasis being as with all (?) Thai words on the last syllable.

I think it is more like PAT-TA-YAA. Agree emphasis on last syllable.

That's how it sounds to me.

My Thai wife agrees....but maybe like this is more accurate...PAHT-TA-YAA

PAT seems like BAT.....should be more like rhyming with BAHT on the first syllable

Yes, even better.

I know somebody who send Honda CBR-150's on regular basis to the USA, guess he's liar and hides them in his backyard...

Also read this classify on a USA motorcycle for sale website http://www.livetray.com/xzclf/-2/posts/35_...legal_3195.html

I think that this post and my own, stating that I have seen a Thai-made Kawasaki for sale in Canada, show that it CAN be done.

Can it be done without breaking the bank, I don't know.

More research needed.

Beardog

Most of my posts in this forum have been helpful to people who have inquired about various things regarding the Cbr150...I hope.

But I take your point. If I had remembered about the Kawasaki earlier, I would have included that info in my first post.

I have it on good authority that correct pronounciation is PAT THAI YA - the emphasis being as with all (?) Thai words on the last syllable.

I think it is more like PAT-TA-YAA. Agree emphasis on last syllable.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Just saw a red flag and charged at it.

Carry on.

Good point about waiting for the coffee to kick in.

Would like to add that I have, with my own eyes, seen a second-hand Kawasaki Boss 175 for sale in a motorcycle dealership in Canada. Made in Thailand.

the second-hand price was about what they sell for new here in Thailand. Unfortunately, the salesman I asked about it did not know it's history.

Gee, wonder how it got there?

Anything to add, beardog?