jayjayjayjay

What is confusing about this story is that another English language paper in Bangkok is reporting the same story with the same individuals, but saying that the snipers only fired blanks. No mention is made of rubber bullets.

The same blanks that killed Seh Dang I guess.... Amazing Thailand, in every way!!! :-)

I honestly think Phathanaphong Phusuwan is being nice to the Thai-Chinese audience. In recent deals I've had clients in China insist on USD over Euro or Thai baht. Some clients do deal in Thai baht contracts but no Chinese company I have deals with insist on Yuan... So if their own company's don't deal in Yuan for international trade where is a region Yuan based market going to come from... not a chance in this lifetime.

Little Farut thought his gun was bigger than the pickups, it wasn't!! It's a case of Darwinism. Good bye!

You might want to check your Constitution!

My doctor says its fine.

:-)

The list of those who would benefit form Sae Daeng's death is too long to list,

but the RTA, as a unit from top down, is not to far up on that ling list.

Individuals with-in that may be another story, but no higher than many others on the probabilities list.

He was deeply unpopular, but also madly beloved in some sectors, and thus was more useful to some as a dead martyred icon than as a commander of the resistance.

So it's not just who wanted him dead for rivalries or revenge,

but also strategic profit and reduction of risk. And the best way to do that,

is with a accurate sniper taking him out in the clear,

not the heat of battle, but great kick off a battle.

Same question...

So my question is, what would happen in your country if the military killed one of it's citizens? Simple answer please.

In any country, it would depend on myriad factors

You might want to check your Constitution!

It is interesting that so many westerners in Thailand have such hatred for everything Thaksin that they can't see the 400 pound gorilla in the room. Are we to believe Sia Dang fell over dead through a mysterious bullet from nowhere..... Wake up and smell the roses The Nation editorial staff!!!

Sae Daeng (aka Little Big Mouth) made himself unpopular with many factions. If, as you suggest, the RTA killed him it would only be because they no how to get a job done quickly and beat the other contenders to it. More to the point, no proof or claims to the deed exist.

The list of those who would benefit form Sae Daeng's death is too long to list,

but the RTA, as a unit from top down, is not to far up on that ling list.

Individuals with-in that may be another story, but no higher than many others on the probabilities list.

He was deeply unpopular, but also madly beloved in some sectors, and thus was more useful to some as a dead martyred icon than as a commander of the resistance.

So it's not just who wanted him dead for rivalries or revenge,

but also strategic profit and reduction of risk. And the best way to do that,

is with a accurate sniper taking him out in the clear,

not the heat of battle, but great kick off a battle.

Same question...

So my question is, what would happen in your country if the military killed one of it's citizens? Simple answer please.

It is interesting that so many westerners in Thailand have such hatred for everything Thaksin that they can't see the 400 pound gorilla in the room. Are we to believe Sia Dang fell over dead through a mysterious bullet from nowhere..... Wake up and smell the roses The Nation editorial staff!!!

Sae Daeng (aka Little Big Mouth) made himself unpopular with many factions. If, as you suggest, the RTA killed him it would only be because they no how to get a job done quickly and beat the other contenders to it. More to the point, no proof or claims to the deed exist.

So my question is, what would happen in your country if the military killed one of it's citizens? Simple answer please.

I'd like to see Amsterdam in a Thai prison

And so would Prayuth.However's Amsterdam's main offence in his eyes (and perhaps in yours) is that he speaks no more than the truth - not a commodity valued in some quarters.However as always in Thailand the critics of Amsterdam focus on the personal, including anti Semitic slurs on occasion, rather than the substance of his charges.

He speaks exactly what he is paid to do and as the truth would harm his employer he rarely speaks that. Do you honestly think that if Thaksin wasnt paying him he would be remotely interested in Thailand?

............Amnesty has limited itself to the human rights issues and has avoided politics. Amnesty has been in touch with Mr. Amsterdam over the past year and is aware of the substance of his claims, as well as his political strategy, for which he is compensated. In this context, Mr. Amsterdam is a paid advocate of former Thai PM Thaksin, and is thus very clearly a partisan of one side of the political crisis. This is not a value judgment on Mr. Amsterdam’s position, it is simply a factual observation that implicates a rule that Amnesty applies in its work everywhere: remain neutral, objective, and impartial. Sharing a platform with Mr. Amsterdam would place Amnesty in breach of that rule...............

Amnesty International understands that Mr. Amsterdam has presented a petition to the International Criminal Court (ICC) on the alleged commission of crimes against humanity by Thai authorities in April and May 2010. Thailand, however, has not acceded to the Rome Statute establising the ICC, meaning that the only possible way a case based on events involving Thai citizens in Thailand could reach the ICC would be through a referral by the UN Security Council................... Finally, in addressing any situation that involves accountability in Thailand, Amnesty again must maintain its neutrality and avoid political partisanship. Thus, alongside discussion of the allegations raised by Mr. Amsterdam, considerable reference would also need to be made, among other events, to the thousands of extrajudicial executions as part of Mr. Taksin’s “war on drugs” and during counter-insurgency operations in southern Thailand. Mr. Thaksin strenuously combated Amnesty’s efforts to seek accountability for these serious violations.

http://asiapacific.a...bert-amsterdam/

You are quoting Bernard Zawacki (needless to say no attribution given), a well known defender of the status quo in Thailand (or more accurately someone who desperately doesn't want to offend the elites) who has come under frequent criticism from human rights organisations.Has since changed his tune incidentally after many complaints to Amnesty International and more recently has taken a more balanced approach.This isn't to say one doesn't sympathise with his concerns aboyt Thaksin and human rights.

It is interesting that so many westerners in Thailand have such hatred for everything Thaksin that they can't see the 400 pound gorilla in the room. Are we to believe Sia Dang fell over dead through a mysterious bullet from nowhere..... Wake up and smell the roses The Nation editorial staff!!!

A friend was a singer in that pub at the Chaopraya hotel all those years ago. He can confirm that Duang is a "good shot" and worthy of this gun instructors job!

String fishing line up throughout your house. Place strategically they will begin to avoid your place after a couple of accidents and bruised wings. It must be strung nail to nail so remain under tension.

Happy hour has been outlawed in many parts of the US for decades now.

And that's why the US is the last place on earth I would live. What a country of hypocrites. You can get all the prescription drugs in the world your addiction desires to cook your brain and die while unhappily asleep, carry guns and blow 6 year old's up at the movies....... Have your happy world to yourself. Don't bring that shit here... just saying.

"From the river's sourse in Nakhon Sawan to its mouth near Bangkok,flood barriers are go upping"

dam_n those non-degreed English teachers!

Shouldn't that term be reserved for reporting on drugs "upping"..... !

Troll..... anyone so willing to flaunt there assets on such a stupid question will loose it to the first Thai hooker who gets here teeth into him...RIP troll

PM me if you need a transport co. I have brought a car too CM from BKK for 6500 baht about 2 years ago, but you should be able to send one there for about 8k now. That would be my guess. If that's not interesting I suggest you go to Nim See Seng in Far Harm area and ask them.

This is getting very scary.... is there a new Charles Sobhraj among the Asian tourist set. Where, who, why......very scary. The backpacking set a very open and friendly group of people.

This needs to be an international effort to determine what is really going on here. The first component required is the the Thai authorities to acknowledge their inability to deal with this alone and make it a pan-Asia investigation with western forensic brought in to deal at the highest level.

You can take criminal action against the guy. You should do it now.

I believe a copy of your passport will be enough. As long as the photo and signatures are clear on this. If you have had things stolen, take a copy of the police report.

My gf's mother lost close to 200k to a similar scam, but had to do with a lady using international work in Japan, a promise that remained in processing for 6 years or so until they finally relised it was never going to eventuate and the realization of a full blown scam set in. This all went down well over 10 years ago, but there house is still hocked to the Bank on this issue. I have refused to clear this issue unless the house was transferred to my gf, but as you know that ain't going to happen without the 200k being cleared first. Funny how a simple dead-lock is convenient. Either way the gf started work this year after finishing advanced study so she will clear it herself. As I have known this family for over 7 years I have been surprised to find out how many Thai-Scamming-Thai cons are going on. There is one Thai/Farang scam for every 10 Thai/Thai, if not a higher ratio than this. As I have always said,,,,,, if it sounds too good to be true......

Ordering 777's? At least they are nicer in the air than 737's, ut to run them LLC they will jam a fair few seats into a 777 to fill them up.

nobody what those stuff anyway.

I agree!

... I think?

Absolutely, unquestionable fact!

What a joke!

This is where you are wrong belong belief. If the country had continued to run under Thaksin tyranny, then eventually the electorate would have turned against him, no matter how much money he could or would have spent on elections. Simple answer is that if that course had been allowed to run then the electorate would have gotten what it wanted and we would be in a much more stable politicial environment now. Your hatred of everything Thaksin shields your common sense.

Do you mean like how the people have turned against their leaders in North Africa?

On a more regional basis, the Philippines followed jayjayjay's philosophy and suffered immeasurably under two decades with Marcos with the reported loss of tens of thousands of Filipino's lives.

Tyrants like Marcos and Thaksin don't turn soft with age, they turn more tyrannical. There's nothing in Thaksin's rhetoric "TRT will rule for 20 years" or actions that would indicate any relaxing of his ever-tightening grip on the country.

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Sorry to break it to you but some countries are actually better of run by a dictator as long as they remain non despotic (and there is the catch, absolute power corrupts absolutely). Philippines and Thailand are cases in point. The general public are so consumed in their own greed (with the safety net of a visit to a temple occasionally to get absolution for the other 360 days of greed, extortion, and general "i don't care unless it hurts me or enriches me personally" attitude. These societies benefit from a strong hand at the top and not allowing them to have any influence in actually running the country. Isn't it curious that any country that has a "get out of jail free" religion (catholic and Buddhist most notably) are usually the most corrupt and most likely to fall apart at the seams.

Singapore

Any coup that got rid of Thaksin was NOT pointless. The installation of anti-corruption measures has at least slowed the rapacious plundering of the country, and as more charges mount, will prevent the return of the main plunderer - unless he can get a white-wash.

This is where you are wrong belong belief. If the country had continued to run under Thaksin tyranny, then eventually the electorate would have turned against him, no matter how much money he could or would have spent on elections. Simple answer is that if that course had been allowed to run then the electorate would have gotten what it wanted and we would be in a much more stable politicial environment now. Your hatred of everything Thaksin shields your common sense.

Do you mean like how the people have turned against their leaders in North Africa?

On a more regional basis, the Philippines followed jayjayjay's philosophy and suffered immeasurably under two decades with Marcos with the reported loss of tens of thousands of Filipino's lives.

Tyrants like Marcos and Thaksin don't turn soft with age, they turn more tyrannical. There's nothing in Thaksin's rhetoric "TRT will rule for 20 years" or actions that would indicate any relaxing of his ever-tightening grip on the country.

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That so called tyrant leader seams to be running the show again! Not to bad at the moment!

Any coup that got rid of Thaksin was NOT pointless. The installation of anti-corruption measures has at least slowed the rapacious plundering of the country, and as more charges mount, will prevent the return of the main plunderer - unless he can get a white-wash.

This is where you are wrong belong belief. If the country had continued to run under Thaksin tyranny, then eventually the electorate would have turned against him, no matter how much money he could or would have spent on elections. Simple answer is that if that course had been allowed to run then the electorate would have gotten what it wanted and we would be in a much more stable politicial environment now. Your hatred of everything Thaksin shields your common sense.

More stable politicial environment now? Sure it would as there would be no right to question anything against him.

And once a tyrant and the scum that run with him place themselves above the law and any final check (in this case the Army) how do you then remove them? The electorate would eventually turn again him?...Wow...and when they did, do you think Thaksin the populist / dictator would give a toss what the electorate would think or be able to do against him. Have a look around the world right now where civil wars are being fought to rid countries of tyrants and scum like Thaksin. The cost is not only the eventual civil war regardless but also the years of tyranncy rule that still leave the lower social economic classes still where they were when they first paid their souls over for their ฿500 life pledge to their puu yai. Your common sense is lost behind your naivety.

You underestimate the electorate. Did you attend ANY elections, did you or were you at the ballot boxes in any elections from '97 to 2007? I attended all elections at various locations from Bangkok, Issarn to the north. People voted with equal commitment to whom them believed would service them best. Sure there was a lot of suspicious lobbying and parties behind each election, the worst case I witnesses was in Buriram and Surin provinces. Who was committing the most suspicious acts....... The Democrats! Go figure! Naive, I beg you to give some substantial proof of your own personal experience to support your post.