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10 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

The easy solution would be to scrap it

Wait ten minutes and the normal government stooges will be along to tell you, it's the law, it's easy, stop whining and if you do not like it leave. 

8 minutes ago, NoComment said:

If this helps to stop terrorism I am in favour.

The Kingdom is a wonderful place and anything that helps with the safety of everyone has to be a priority, doesn't it?

Some will continue to whine and wail to no avail. It is just simply a case of "wipe your mouth" and get on with it because whining and wailing achieves nothing.

Please explain how this stops terrorism. 

Almost all terrorist activity in Thailand is domestic - With the vast majority thankfully limited to the southern most provinces. The recent bombings in Bangkok a couple of week ago were not undertaken by a couple of tourist who were showing their displeasure at the two tier pricing. It was carried out by Thai nationals

The TM30 is a reactive system (not pro-active) meaning that if a foreigner came to Thailand and carried out a terrorist activity..authorities would only know their location..after the event at best. That does not make me feel safe. From what i know terrorists do not signpost their location to the authorities in the lead up to an attack, they tend to keep their heads down and not leave a paper trail either physically or electronically. 

19 hours ago, puchooay said:

 Still, 16 weeks wait for vetting and people on here are complaining about having to spend 5 minutes on the internet to file a TM30. ???? 

 

You can apply for PR in Thailand after 3 years. UK is 5 years.

Well you can actually get it after 2 years in some instances. 

But, I think you are missing the point. We can all talk about it being the law, until we are blue in the face and no-one is going to deny it is the law. But what you seem to miss is that people find this highly offensive. Residents of Thailand are being required (for no other reason than the fact we hold a different nationality) to report our movements within or when returning to the country under the guise of a vaguely worded statement about  'national security'. That is offensive. 

I was married here, my daughters both born here, i work and pay tax here (and i get tax back every year) I have a mortgage, 2 credit cards, pay a range of bills, am guarantor on my daughters car, have adopted a Thai child, have had 5 RTP police checks and submitted an Enhanced DBS check, have held an extension of stay for longer than I care to admit, have work permit, yellow book, pink card, have done 90 day reports for god know how long - all on time and I have Thai driving license. So perhaps you can understand why I (and many other people) find this offensive and that we won't leave because this is our home, but will continue to push immigration to get their act in order and or them to understand that the world has changed quite a lot since 1979 and with it people expectations. 

If immigration do not know where residents like myself live given the above. Then simply they should be shut down as they clearly incompetent couldn't find their own <deleted> with a map and me repeatedly telling them where I am will not change that fact. 

21 minutes ago, puchooay said:

1900 for an extension if refused. $100 dollars for a visitor visa to UK. No refund if refused. Over $2000 for a settlement visa. No refund if refused.

 

Longer waiting times too. 2-3 weeks for a UK visitor visa. 16 weeks for UK settlement visa.

Yes...Longer waiting times as they are vetting you...Duh!

By the way PR (The Thai equivalent of a settlement visa) approx 100'000 baht (if married to a Thai) and 197'000 if single = $3'000 - $6'000 and do not even get me started on the waiting times for PR - Try years!

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

 

 

If Yinn want to go to England, Australia or USA for the the two day holiday Yinn don’t get free visa with NO paperwork. 

Yinn must do 20+ document about bank, work, live where AND pay money that, they not refund if they REFUSE. Go to the embassy in Bangkok BEFORE and have interview. Must go to Bangkok, they not have embassy in every province like for you guys.

 

Yinn, 

The same applies for residents getting extensions in Thailand - The amount of paper work required is huge, and we pay money that is not refunded if refused. The only difference is no vetting or interviews. Because immigration is happy to give everyone a visa if they have the money...and then immigration complain when criminals come to Thailand. Maybe if Thailand Immigration check people they give visa's too better,  then criminals would not come to Thailand. Criminals come to Thailand...Thailand's fault. 

BTW if I apply for a visa to visit Thailand in UK....guess what I must go to Thai embassy in London. No have Thai embassy in every UK province as well. Same Same As UK embassy in Thailand, No? . 

This type of short term, unsustainable reaction does not inspire confidence in the economy. What are the public not being told. 

50 Billion is a big amount of cash, we have hospitals and schools (especially the rural ones) one the verge of collapse, both economically and structurally, and poor old Toon is having to run the length and breadth of the country to raise funds for them, and the government is giving out cash to a population that by and large is up to its neck in debt, and being encouraged to spend more on having a vacation. Utter lunacy!

How about making 25 Billion available for people to up skill and retrain through adult education centers and collages?  It is evident that many people especially those who have been out of education for a number of years (mainly farmers and the poor) need new skills and knowledge in order to leverage the opportunities that the 21st century can offer. 

A 50 Billion injection of money into the health and education system would yield far better longer term results. In fact betting 50 Billion on a couple of hands of Hi-Low would make more economic sense than this. 

Honestly given that the Immigration Act from which this 'rule' was implemented was in 1979, it is useful to consider just how much the world & Thailand has changed in the past 40 years

1979 - No Internet, Asean pretty much was a talking shop with 5 members, migrant labour from ASEAN / neighbouring countries was much lower, visiting foreigners was about 1 million a year, with significantly fewer long stay expats.- Tourism accounted for 0.5-1.5% GDP Thailand was coming to the end of a communist insurgency, and Vietnam was invading Kampuchea.  

2019 - Well we know how the above has changed. 

So given the breadth of changes that have happened to Thailand and its socio-economic development into one of the hubs of SE Asia. One must really question why the Immigaration Act has not been adapted and adjusted to fit with those changes. A square peg in a round hole. 

1 hour ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Not a great idea to rock the boat in a place like this

Or be a servant of rather than the master of your life. Which do you prefer? 

11 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

Jesus Christ get a grip

 

All this over reaction about having to visit a Immigration Office a few extra times a year is pathetic 

For you it may be a few times a year, but I am sure there are others that have to do it considerable more than a few times. If you had to do it 20 or 30 times a year you might react slightly differently. 

If true.. I feel every single expat / foriegn  should go away this weekend and then all turn up en masse at CW on Monday morning and lay seige to the place. And repeat every Monday. 

Having 20 to 30,000 people turning up each and every Monday to file tm30 would bring the system to a grinding halt.

Just watch old Teflon Prayut slide effortlessly away with this 'minor' mistake. 

And at the same time FFP are being accused in the constitutional court  of being part of the illuminati based on their logo (a triangle) looking like the illuminati logo... Yep a triangle. 

Now imagine the unholy bun fight that would have ensued if FFP has omitted the lst sentence like Prayut.

9 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

So after denying the error and obfuscating for days, suddenly he admits it. 

The only mistake was that someone noticed. Everything is always fine in Thailand... until closer inspection yields an error. Then the blame game starts based on the ancient and well respected Thai principle of yielding to the wishes of those higher up the social aka financial ladder.

I expect a Burmese scribe will be found to apportion blame on in the not to distant future.