JonnyF

Well seeing as only women (adult human females) have a menopause, it's kind of ridiculous. I find it quite misogynistic actually. There is nothing childish or crass about pointing out the established facts of human biology. Nothing childish or crass about the word Fat either. Just like there is nothing sophisticated/virtuous about avoiding addressing legitimate points by pretending to be offended by everyday language.

Wow, he looks like one of those guys at the Parramatta train station asking for loose change. Hopefully he's OK health wise, he's probably at a much healthier weight now assuming the weight loss is for the right reasons. He looked a bit ridiculous before, like he was trying a bit too hard to look tough (like many weightlifter/bodybuilder types).

Wasn't talking to you.

It seems I've upset you. My deepest, most sincere apologies. Whilst the comment was of course somewhat tongue in cheek, on a more serious note I am sure you are aware that certain NHS departments have dropped the use of the word Woman in certain circumstances, to be replaced with gender neutral language such as 'people with a cervix'. So it is indeed quite possible that the term 'Boy/Girl' would offend someone. They might prefer 'adolescant with a penis/cervix' or something similarly crass. I'd have thought you'd be supportive of such gender neutral language? Me? Call me old fashioned but I prefer the terms Boy/Girl.

From the school website... Essentially ensuring that boys* can wear skirts and girls* can wear trousers. I'd say that's probably qualifies as Woke. Not hardcore 'mad as a box of frogs' Woke, but Woke nonetheless. Shorts being banned in 30 degree plus temperatures definitely qualifies as stupid. * Unreserved apologies if the use of the term 'boys' and 'girls' hurt anyone's feelings. Alternative gender neutral terms are available at all good echo chambers ????.

The parents have objected to it and the policy is being reviewed, and rightly so. It's stupid.

So much negativity. Bangkok is a great city. I absolutely love living here. Just spent a week in Sydney and it was sterile, expensive and boring in comparison.

The location in question had average temperatures in the 20's, with one day over 30. See BKK Brian's link. I shouldn't really have to explain this, but just because it's cooled down now, doesn't mean it wasn't hot before ????.

'PC' was directed at BKK Brian, not the school policy. Are you being disingenuous or is this concept too complicated for you to grasp? As for the school uniform, we all know what it means. Maybe you were left behind while trying to work out the 'PC' comment, but the discussion had advanced somewhat to a debate about the choice (or lack thereof) of uniform. Presumably you'd be OK with whatever the principal decided on, irrespective of the discomfort to the children? Seems a bit of an authoritarian stance for a so called Liberal, no?

Not at all. Read the thread. I said the policy was stupid, irrespective of whether it was Woke or not. 'PC' was a comment directed at another poster who refused to answer a point I was making because I used the word Fat. Nice try though...

Sure, I'll tell you. June was extremely hot. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/17/heatwave-alert-uk-hottest-day-year-met-office-england-london-nhs#:~:text=Heatwave alert as parts of UK experience hottest day of 2022 so far,-Met Office issues&text=A level three heatwave alert,of the year so far.

Please read the survey again. The responses from parents in no way indicated that shorts should be banned. That was a conclusion reached by the school based on nothing whatsoever from the parents, so please stop this claim that this was a result of a survey of the parents, it came from the school and the parents objected to it. It doesn't surprise me one bit that whoever made this policy didn't consider there could be a heat wave in the summer, they've given no indication they have such intelligence or forethought. Whether it's one day over 30 and the rest of the month in the 20's, clearly it's hot enough to warrant a choice of cooler clothing for the children. Why ignore my comment about fat kids? OK, what is the woke term? Obese adolescants? Plus sized people under 16? Is that PC enough for you to respond? It's fairly obvious that overweight/fat kids feel the heat more. Why make them wear trousers in the heat? You seem more concerned about the use of PC language than the comfort/welfare of the kids. I had heatstroke as a kid and I can tell you it's EXTREMELY unpleasant. In bed for 3 days, vomitting and screaming for someone called Rita to come and help me (I didn't know anyone called Rita). Heatstroke is no joke I can assure you. Yes, Rockey has been forced to address this illogical and ill thought out policy. Good to see he's finally seen some sense. It seems you are very gradually coming around to the fact that is a stupid policy as well, which is encouraging.

Did you just say Woke and Tolerance/Acceptance in the same sentence? ???? They have zero tolerance or acceptance for anyone who doesn't share their radical views. Just look at the way they've treated someone like JK Rowling. Shameful stuff from the 'be kind' brigade.

I think they are capable of deciding whether to wear shorts or trousers during a heat wave ????. We're not asking them to decide how to deal with the war in Ukraine or which policies to implement to tackle climate change (although the Greenies were quite happy to make a deity of the clueless Greta when it suited their agenda).

So they did a survey during which there is no mention of parents requesting shorts be disallowed. Then they set the policy of trousers and skirts only. Yet you're claiming the policy is based on the survey of the parents, despite the fact they are now having to review the policy due to objections by parents. Hmmm, ok... If it was 30 degrees on one day, then my statement is correct. Some kids feel the heat more than others. Fat kids for example might get hotter. Or those having hormonal changes, medications etc. Why would you object to shorts being allowed? Maybe some of the girls would prefer shorts as well? Especially if they like to pretend they are/"identify as" boys. If trousers and skirts are deemed 'gender neutral', then surely shorts are as well. Like I said, the policy makes no sense at all, on any level.

I took a peek. There was nothing I could see stating that parents didn't want shorts allowed. The part about skirts and trousers being the uniform was in page 2 regarding the changes that the school had decided to implement.

So why ban them? Doesn't make any sense. Let the children choose based on what is comfortable for them.

I found it absolutely roasting in the summer, especially after a game of football during the breaks. I guess different people feel the heat differently, which is why it's best to offer the option to the kids, depending on how hot they are. I highly doubt the parents chose to disallow shorts for boys. Sounds like a PR statement by the school to justify a poor decision that became public.

I flew to Sydney with them last week, got back to BKK on Friday (via Phuket). The meals were small but perfectly OK. Chicken/beef with rice/noodles with a bit of veg and a bread roll and a small desert. The same as before Covid as far as I can remember. Wine and beer was served with the food. Only thing I noticed was there were no drinks served between meals. I reckon I could have got one if I'd have walked up to the stewards area but I wasn't fussed so didn't try. The bags were slow to come off (except for the air crew's bags). I'm guessing staff shortages are affecting most airlines/airports.

So did they allow shorts on the day when it was over 30 degrees? Or did the boys have to wear a skirt in order to cool down? Even in low 20's, it can get pretty hot inside, especially when kids aren't used to the heat. Why ban shorts if the boys are feeling the heat in non air con classrooms? They wouldn't wear them if it wasn't hot. Doesn't seem very kind (or logical) to me.

Yes there is currently a heat wave in the UK, do try to keep up dear. As for the Woke idiocy, it's quite common for people who are part of the problem to be blissfully unaware of it. Case in point. Why would you mock genuine concerns about children that are forced to wear trousers all day while sat in a classroom with no air conditioning and temperatures exceeding 30 degrees? I thought all you leftists were all about 'being kind'? Surely that's not some kind of ruse?

I had some hash chocolate brownies recently. Not sure what % THC was in there but I was absolutely stoned out of mind within an hour and had the best night's sleep I'd had in ages. I suspect not everyone is following this 0.2% rule. I'll be buying some more of those brownies, plus some weed and a pipe for smoking next week.

Seems like a stupid rule. Irrespective of the Woke idiocy plaguing many areas of life, why not allow boys/girls to wear shorts? Why should a heterosexual boy be forced to wear a skirt in order to stay cool in a heat wave?

Life without parole would have been more suitable for this piece of human trash. Let's hope he never sees life outside those prison gates again.

Should have worn his mask. We all know they are 100% effective.