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12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
I want 'both options' to be available to everyone
Me too.
Which makes us both anti-cashless.
It really isn't complicated.
Admitting to it doesn't make you a luddite. You don't need to sit in a room of a 20 people in a circle and stand up and say "I'm Richard and I'm anti cashless".
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1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:
The phrase "not anti-cashless" means that I'm is not opposed to the use of cashless payment systems like cards, mobile payments, or digital wallets - but it doesn't necessarily mean I'm fully pro-cashless either.
Anti cashless simply means you do not want to see cash disappear completely.
That doesn't mean you are opposed to digital payments being available as well. Being anti cashless doesn't mean you think everything must be cash 100% of the time.
So you are anti cashless. Just like me.
Welcome to the club.
And you're welcome for the clarification of the terms you have been using. Now you can use them properly and stop contradicting yourself.
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3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
Throughout this thread, from the second comment on this thread - I've stated both options (cash and digital payment) should be available for all customers.
Yes, which makes you anti cashless.
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8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
Why ???
....are you only capable of a binary approach ??? are you one of those who struggle with a nuane and neglect a balanced perspective instead seeking to label others as either fully for or against ???
What is wrong with suggesting that both cashless and digital payments should be an option ????
Did you give your response any thought at all ?
On one hand you say you are not anti-cashless (i.e. you think getting rid of cash is OK).
Then you say both cash and digital should be an option (which BTW is my stance since I am very much anti-cashless).
So which is it? Because if you want both options available like I do, then by definition you are very much anti-cashless.
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12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
I find myself neither strictly pro-cash nor anti-cashless; I simply believe in a more measured approach that both options always remain available.
I'm pro both cash and digital payments and have repeated through-out this thread that both should be available options.
So you are not anti-cashless, but you are pro both cash and digital? 😆
Quite the position...
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Just now, josephbloggs said:
So do you sleep with all of your hard earned cash in a bag under your bed? Or do you keep it in a bank?I don't keep large sums in the bank earning a pittance that's for sure. You'd have to be pretty dumb to do that. In the unlikely event you ever lucked yourself into a large sum I'd bet that's exactly where we'd find it though. 😃
Just now, josephbloggs said:
If it is kept in a bank then you can be "turned off" just as easily so that argument is nonsense.If it was, eventually, yes. But not overnight if cash still exists. If someone froze my bank accounts right now I could survive several months quite easily.
Just now, josephbloggs said:(And often I wish someone would turn you off, but that's another story).
Well it would have to be someone else since you'd have no chance. 😆
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16 minutes ago, RayC said:
Yes, the economic benefits of Brexit are plain for all to see. Only a fool would seek to reverse them🤦
Clearly, like most Remainers you have no respect for Democracy.
But we already knew that.
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4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:As am I - I'm also for using balanced well through out arguments in support or against an option and find many of the anti-digital payment arguments quite broken and flawed thats all, they can be countered so easily that they weaken a point rather than strengthen it.
Seems you just want to be pedantic.
So how about the biggest argument of all?
If we go cashless you can be turned off at the push of a button. This isn't a loony conspiracy. It already happened in Canada to the truckers. Protest against the government and get turned off. If that doesn't open your eyes then nothing will. But hey, it might save you a couple of seconds at the checkout.
Reminds me of the title of the album "Give me convenience or give me death".
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2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
Bias - how many times are you stuck behind 'some old granny' ???...
Well, I can never be sure if they have grandchildren, but slow people? quite often. Quite a few people seem to struggle with it. I prefer the system in the UK where you just hold the card up to the machine. Tap and Go. Far superior to the QR code phone app nonsense.
2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:More often than not, its someone who just flashes their QR code, or scans a QR and make payment faster than dealing with cash...
Showing your bias again.
2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:I agree... I believe we should never lose cash, so from the perspective of 'use it or lose it' I would vote to always maintain the option of 'cash payments' and I think thats a strong enough argument on its own.
Which was my main point. I am not against Tap and Go, but cash needs to remain an option.
2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:.... All the other arguments used against digital payment can be so readily picked apart they weaken the argument rather than contribute any additional validity or strength to the points being made (your 'granny argument' being a perfect example).
Strawman. I'm not against digital payments (if they are implemented right). I actually like Monzo cards where you can put a couple of hundred quid on it for a night out and so if you lose it then it's no big deal, unlike losing a bank a credit card.
I am against removing cash as an option.
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12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:This is one of those 'dumb arguments' against cash-less QR payments... Its not slower than paying with cash, I find it faster.
It's not 'dumb'. It depends on who is using the phone. If it's some old granny it can take what seems like decades. And that's just them typing the passcode.
12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:additionally - when making a QR payment you don't have to give anyone your phone number...
I'm aware of that. But they always do because they want their "member points" or whatever. The 2 are not related but it further delays what shoyuld be a simple process.
But you're missing the whole point. If we go cashless you can simply be "turned off" at the push of a button like Trudeau did to the truckers. Plus I don't really want the state having more access to my personal life than they already do.
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50 minutes ago, DaddyWarbucks said:The photo looks fake.
A ghastly-looking Biden sticks out like a sore thumb.
Good for a laugh and a reminder of how lucky we were to avoid a continuation of his administration under his DEI hire.
So cynical.
I was there later the same day.
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The BBC once again showing it's desire to deliberately mislead.
How much longer do we have to tolerate this garbage?
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Clearly photoshopped. Unless he is kneeling which I very much doubt he is capable of.
Like most things in the Biden era. Fake. Staged. Inauthentic.
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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:
A Government that obeys court rulings, that’s not something you’ve ever supported.
A court ruling didn't say 99.9% of women haven't got a penis. Starmer did. The complete melt. 😃
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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Consumers choosing where not to spend their money is not terrorism of any kind.
It is when they are afraid to buy a product for fear of someone attacking it/them.
But you already knew that.
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29 minutes ago, impulse said:So we have a tiny country the size of Michigan planning to unilaterally modify the entire world's climate.
Not only that, but they are destroying the standard of living of it's inhabitants in order to "achieve" it.
Complete Muppetry.
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Domestic terrorism by the left appears to have worked on this occasion.
I hope it doesn't spur them on to greater acts of violence.
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6 minutes ago, Donga said:“Every time you fly, sulphur, which is naturally present in jet fuel, is emitted into the lower most stratosphere causing a small cooling effect."
Huh? Thought we weren't meant to fly these days, but maybe sail 😅Clearly this cooling effect is only present in the flights of wealthy virtue signalling celebrities.
When the plebs do it, it brings Doomsday one step closer.
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Funny how the gays want their festival but object to the straights having theirs.
"Get yo' hanths of our fethtival bitcheths. You're not spethial like uth". 😃
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5 hours ago, JoseThailand said:I hope 7-11 can go cashless one day
Yeah I love waiting behind someone finding/playing with their phone for 5 minutes to pay for a bar of chocolate.
Especially when they have to tell the cashier their phone number 3 times.
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Well done Trump. Brilliant job.
I hope Starmer is watching how a real man leads a country.
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3 minutes ago, placeholder said:And undoubtedly a welcome relief to most UK citizens.
Only in your mind.
In the actual vote, they voted to Leave.
I never expected Starmer to respect that though. The man has no principles.
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They can't stop a Dinghy, but they want to stop the sun. 😃
Failed state.
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Reversing Brexit, one step at a time.
What a surprise.
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Irish Rap Group Given 14K by Labour Face Terror police investigation for Pro Hamas Chants
in World News
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No surprise Labour would fund this.
I wonder how long before the BBC pays them to participate in a Pro Palestine documentary, while pretending to be unaware of their background.