mokwit

What kind of check and with who is this? I seem to remember it is for Thailand/Interpol notices not for criminal record from your home country? I don't think they get the non criminal record confirmation from an applicants country. It will be up to us to get hard copy of this, not for the IB to get it.

Don't get where you are coming from from this - if you mean extension of Non O it is for one year, if you mean 3 month non O I don't get what you mean unless you mean anyone on a Multi O can't afford the 400k - but don't they have to show proof of that to get multi O?

OK thanks, I remeber now that they do, but it is for Thailand/Interpol notices not for criminal record from your home country? I don't. I don't want to have to arrange another document, yet alone one with a date that has to coincide. Why do you like the idea of limiting O applications to one a year, because you won't be affected but others will. Be careful what you wish for, a lot of people "safe" with their retirement extension who were gloating at visa tightenings for others such as "border hoppers" and who thought everyone but them should be horsewhipped and deported got their comeuppance when an extra 400k/proof of remittance of 65k was introduced. be careful what you wish for, the rising tide might reach you. Seriously, all these people who think the rules should be tightened to keep out others - General Prem isn't looking down from the heavens on you thinking, ahh yes, this is the type of good falang who are welcome in Thailand. There are types who come to Thailand that I am not keen on, but any tightening on them will likely affect me also in some way.

I don't think he is capable of understanding what distress his actions caused. I am sure he wouldn't care if he did, but I don't think he can.

At it's best it can mean we will do what we can with the resources available, or you can get a special effort from us if you make us happy. CW is so hassle free that there is no real reason to use an agent, other offices I hear are so difficult that people do as with an agent things suddenly aren't an issue anymore. As for conspiracy theory: The first one year extension for work required me to make multiple visits to Immigration in person. The HR people told me they are making it difficult so that we pay to expediate things, but we know you tick all the boxes and they can't ultimately refuse, so we are doing it this way rather than pay.

Make things so difficult they opt into "the system". That's how it works here.

all right all right, if you want to be over pedantic, but few kept 800k all year previous to that - i didn't, but now do. I used to draw down the 800k but had to make a one time addition of 400k. I think the above is likely what most did. I would have thought it was self evident that those using an agent didn't have to.

You expect them to think things through to that extent? The wording of the police order won't be "unless not been out of the country/criminal record check from 3 months before your last entry into Thailand". It will be criminal record check with each renewal same as marriage visa people have to supply the same things every renewal, including the same marriage certificate, you would think maybe they will accept a criminal record check from 3 months before your last entry into Thailand, but don't count on it - more likely 3 months before application ate every year.

These two are mutually exclusive.

I am jumping to conclusions based on living here 25+ years and seeing the visa changes including those brought in by Hapkarn when he was IB head not deputy chief. A complete overhaul of the law requires Parliament passing it but everything suggested here can go through on a police order alone - Criminal record check can be requested under the part of the law that says 'anything else deemed necessary by the Competent Official' The key to whether it goes through or not is how much it affects the vested interest of "the system".

Let's hope they don't ask for it dated 1 month prior to application (I think 3 months would be most likely, within one year unlikely). It will be required every year with current 1 year retirement extension IMO, perhaps not with 5 year visa. It's the date juggling with any changes that concern me just as much - all the problems people had with OA visas and lining up the insurance dates to exactly coincide with extension (check holidays people). As someone said, they just pull things out of their *** without care or consideration for the difficulty with complying. I'm gonna be outta here anyway, but maybe sooner than later.

There was no grandfathering for the additional 400k year 'round requirement - Hapkarn even went as far as to say there had been no changes to the 800k requirement. Fact is everybody had to bring in an additional 400k.

The biggest destruction of trust is changes to retirement extension requirements. I think most of those retired here are more scared of this than outlaw biker gangs.

What the article misses is that major changes can be made by police order without need for a new Immigration act. All the changes/new requirement have been done this way. They can change the financial requirements, ask for additional documents such as criminal record history, they can even drop clauses in the law (TM28). Did they increase the amount required for the old Bt 3m investment Visa (to 10m?) or drop it all together? Maybe they can drop the current retirement extension. All kinds of new visa classes have been offered (by TE BoI MOFA), all but the Elite have onerous requirements such as criminal record checks. The OX aimed at high GDP per capita country applicants requires you to take the time and money to have a blood test to show you don't have Elephantiasis, leprosy and TB. these are very rare in these countries and you are far more likely to catch them here. The below requirements are for issuance of the OX extension once you are in country. BTW, you have to go to Imm and reqaulify EVERY year. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwidscHpqMSAAxX_7TgGHcTPDNYQFnoECAsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbangkok.immigration.go.th%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2022C1_20.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1E5oyJ1ln4_6Y8nF6AyfR7&opi=89978449

No I am "suggesting" that the Thai authorities should adopt the same heavy handed group punishment strategy that they applied to retirement extensions (e.g. 400k year 'round to stop agents) and seem to be planning for the future because of an outlaw biker on a retirement extension murdering another foreigner. Surely the solution is to place additional restrictions on VE/VOA used by millions to deal with a handful of wayward bike riders? Maybe a certificate from your home country vehicle registration/licensing authorities confirming you have never owned a large motorcycle/do not hold a motorcycle license. Or put another way, no, not "seriously", but then again, this is not beyond fantasy with all the high quality appointees since 2014.

Obviously they need to find out what visa these outlaw bikers are on and bring in restrictions on it - say no VE/VOA without whatever they are planning for retirement extensions e.g Criminal record check presented on entry or no VE/VOA. What's that you say? It's easier to pick on old men?

I don't think they give a damn and don't think 65k/month is enough to have foreigners amongst them.

Good luck getting a denial of insurance confirmation from the British Embassy. Why do they assume embassies will come up with these documents?

They will be restricting retirees based on one incident let's see if they restrict Chinese based on many. Ah yes, but most Chinese visitors are law abiding so no need.

I think it was lowered to fifty to lure* US federal and Military retirees who can retire at 50 on gold plated pensions. I think it was 60, then 55, then 50? *the correct word.

Why? We all had to keep an extra 400k in the bank. I doubt it. Thailand is not Switzerland.

That was previous governments. Under this government of people who have spent their entire lives on army bases the amount was de facto increased by 400k PA (due to requirement to keep 400k in account year 'round) with no grandfathering and Joke and smart people on this board saying there had been no change because it was still only 800k................

The bangkok based newspaper we can trust gets down and dirtier on the details.

Include something that excludes all the farangs calling for visa tightening. How about: "educated to Masters level" as per one visa type. Only problem is very few people did Masters back in the 70's 80's even 90's.

On reflection, I remember that Joke was talking about getting the 1979 act amended when he was Imm Chief. Maybe too much vested interest got in the way and maybe will again. They seem to be able to do a lot with Police Orders. There has been no Parliamentary involvement in changes such as 400k year 'round OR for example dropping TM28 which is stipulated by the law.