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They assume every third party is prepared to go along with their requests.

Why stop there, we have just had an Elite Visa* murder it seems, also VE/VoA/TR. Hard copy on boarding and at Imm on entry. Has to come from your HOME country for OX visa, so let's implement it like that. Criminals don't need a full year to start committing crimes, some get busy within 15 days and then overstay. Let's not stop at criminal records, obviously need to check people don't have communicable diseases: - Leprosy - Tuberculosis - Elephantiasis - drug addiction and third stage of Syphilis. Anything else the people who "thought" up the new long stay visa classes can come up with. *seems criminal checks don't keep out the kind of people who murder and dismember, so how much use is it?

For the last few years since Hapkarn's changes I have handed over a bank statement. It has never been handed back. I just feel for Bt200 and SCB not having a branch at CW, just get it at the same time s the letter and hand it over. Yes, it would be interesting to withhold it and see if it was demanded, but why blot your copy book.

Will they accept it at IB offices for OA? OA maybe has very specific requirements and likely they will be very pedantic about accepting them - I thought only the Thai insurance was accepted for OA/X so that counter staff could understand it. here is OX requirement. Health insurance (as per the specifications of the OIC office with coverage of OPD of at least 40,000 baht and IPD of at least 400,000 baht Please check http://longstay.tgia.org

yep, thought people retired here must be using a "retirement visa" - and OA issued by MoFA seemed to be the one.

I still wonder if he was aiming at people on IB one year O retirement extensions i'e' people retired here, but it got applied to MoFA "retirement visa" i.e. OA by mistake.

Actually, you are quite right. I stand corrected here. It was Anutin who brought in this change. My personal view was that he meant the O visa extension issued in country but when researching "retirement visa" thought it was the MFoA issued OA. If you got an OA and THEN the change, I take back my comments. I dn't know why, my best guess is because the OA gives one year (more?) in country without need for funds in country - hence the need for insurance to value 400k. It has never been stated as such by Hapkarn or IB but quite possibly the 400k 'year 'round was meant as ensuring funds for medical coverage was available in country. The difference may be explained by the fact that right from extension date O holders would have 400k in their bank here whereas OA would have a one year period where there was no such deposit so hence the requirement for insurance. My best guess.

I seem to be a lot better educated on visa matters than you - you chose an OA <deleted> You don't come across as "fine" having your OA. It seems to be eating away at you.

Because it dates back to when Thailand was less restrictive about people staying long term.

It's not. You chose a visa type that came in later and had all kinds requirements. Check this beauty out that came after OA: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwidscHpqMSAAxX_7TgGHcTPDNYQFnoECAsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbangkok.immigration.go.th%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2022C1_20.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1E5oyJ1ln4_6Y8nF6AyfR7&opi=89978449 Were you required to confirm to the authorities that you don't have Syphilis or did you get some kind of preferential treatment?

OK so why didn't you get a VE/TR and convert in country, rather than choose a visa that seemingly has ruined your life. As for me being "uneducated" I am trying to EDUCATE YOU and others who hopefully this will help avoid a poor visa choice

In fairness Mike that's your personal circumstances affecting visa your visa choice. Take your point about UK O.

We don't receive preferential treatment, we just opted for a better visa/extension type. You could have had an O just like us if you had come on a VE or TR and converted in country. I find it hard to believe your country offers OA but not O, as OA is much more recent.

You didn't do your research. You could have come on a VE or TR and converted to O in country. HTH.

Huh? How are those on OA "discriminated" against? they made the choice to make a poor visa choice. If anything the OA should be abolished as it is doing Thailand a disservice as it is making staying in Thailand appear more complicated than it is - you actually have people choosing this visa because they don't know better and then it appears they get really bitter about their poor, uninformed choice..

I think it might be that they have "earned" the right to jump the cue.

Golf cart to the execution shed at Bang Kwang maybe.

Just need to offer better trough access.

It says at the bottom of both forms "attendance is requited in person" They added the "unless incapacitated" shortly after someone was pushed 'round CW in a hospital bed complete with IV drip. It was surreal seeing that. Jomtien I hear you can do both without attending. I don't think you can do standard PoA on an extension other than for a handful of cases, or maybe just medical - presumably the agent submits some questionable paperwork. CW without attendance is long gone. PoA can be done for other things e.g. TM30. Re entry permit attendance enforcement seems to have tightened up at CW - taking your photo now.

Strictly speaking your attendance is required in person for the first two. I'd be interested if this is at CW and all goes through OK.

I thought that was the cost of new builds, not the resale price on the market. If you mean buying an option on a new build and selling on completion maybe it applies. Those who know feel free to come in and correct me if wrong, but i think this type of figure is used to bamboozle people into thinking their condo investment will appreciate.

According to the internet the alleged murderer was on an Elite Visa which requires a criminal record check, The analytical side of me deduces that criminal record checks won't prevent the type of people who murder others and cut up the body from staying here. QED

People on O visas are not receiving preferential treatment, they just did the smart thing and avoided a bad deal. It is not that they are getting preferential treatment, rather it is YOU that selected a bad deal. If you didn't do your research and went OA with all its requirements like lining up insurance cover dates with extension dates that's your problem. We all make mistakes. Act in haste repent at leisure as they say. Why on earth anyone would go for an OA let alone an OX eludes me. As for mandatory health insurance I assume you have some kind of gold plated Govt gopher deal. Better have as the law of karma is a bitch. For most of us it ends at 70, Thai insurance companies have it all their way, outside Thailand private sector insurance you buy as an individual that covers a long illness is very expensive and you need to have been on it for a long time. There is no guarantee they will pay. I have been paying my medical bills cash, but will go back home for end of life care as it will be free. So why would I buy the low limit "accident" insurance which the Thai insurance companies are really offering.

In other news we have another murder of a foreigner by another foreigner. No doubt Hapkarn will be checking out what visa the chef was on - it seems chef in Spain not here (at least not officially) so time to rein in VE/VOA and TR. These are "too easy" requiring as little as Bt20,000 and a return ticket - no checks, no nothing. If the chef was on a WP then obviously need to bring in stricter requirements there.

You need to get out more. Outside your little world prices are increasing. Som Tam has increased. Prices that were stable have started to rise aggressively. Some things like healthcare have steadily increased.