mokwit

Normal people are angry at being called "Far Right" just because they don't support mass immigration, top down enforced multiculturalism or Woke Progressiveism. I get annoyed at being called "Far Right" because to me far right means the National Front of the '70's, not anybody who doesn't support mass immigration, top down enforced multiculturalism or Woke Progressiveism. It is a filthy political strategy of the Left smearing anybody who opposes their views as "Far Right" to paint a negative picture of any opposition., but then what would you expect when they are using tactics developed by the Bolsheviks, and we know what kind of people they were, don't we children.

Oh that's allright then, only a few police vehicles WERE SET ON FIRE. If I am responding seriously to satire, let me know.

Very well put, and we can see who is using these tactics on this web board and it is obvious why: 'conveniently removes any perceived need to discuss things sensibly, a skill most of then don't possess.'

What Nazi salutes?, all we have is 2tierKier who refers to British people as right wing thugs saying there was Nazi salute at the Cenotaph. I asked yo to show me them - you are always demanding links from others, where is your link for this? As you said yourself ' If you make a statement of what was reported you need to provide evidence that is indeed what was reported ‘a link’. We can address wether or not the report is true. It’s not for anyone else but you to demonstrate the veracity of your statements.' Show us this Nazi salute. While I am here, a reminder: How come you missed this? 'The narrative seems to be that all the rioters were "right wing thugs bussed in" [do we have any evidence of this allegation?], and that no local people were involved, they just helped clean the Mosque afterwards. Do we have evidence that no local people were involved? Have they appeared before a court and their addresses given? Have the Police issued a statement? This sounds so "on narrative " that I can't help but feel it must have been cut and pasted from the Guardian or somesuch. As someone who lived in an East London Borough being taken over by muslims I tend to question the narrative. 'Normal people don’t riot' This applies to Whitechapel, Harehill, Brixton, Toxteth, the poll tax riots too? A material part of the population of People of these areas not normal?' No answer as always with you.

Answer the questions and stop with the deflection tactics to mask your non answering. Pick your spots very carefully, don't you?

The narrative seems to be that all the rioters were "right wing thugs bussed in" [do we have any evidence of this allegation?], and that no local people were involved, they just helped clean the Mosque afterwards. Do we have evidence that no local people were involved? Have they appeared before a court and their addresses given? Have the Police issued a statement? This sounds so "on narrative " that I can't help but feel it must have been cut and pasted from the Guardian or somesuch.

How come you missed this? 'The narrative seems to be that all the rioters were "right wing thugs bussed in" [do we have any evidence of this allegation?], and that no local people were involved, they just helped clean the Mosque afterwards. Do we have evidence that no local people were involved? Have they appeared before a court and their addresses given? Have the Police issued a statement? This sounds so "on narrative " that I can't help but feel it must have been cut and pasted from the Guardian or somesuch. As someone who lived in an East London Borough being taken over by muslims I tend to question the narrative. 'Normal people don’t riot' This applies to Whitechapel, Harehill, Brixton, Toxteth, the poll tax riots too? A material part of the population of People of these areas not normal?' No answer as always with you. Pleas post an example (genuine request). I have not seen anything online that is definitively a Nazi salute - having your hand in the air whilst someone takes a photo is not a Nazi solute. Secondly, is a small group of right wingers representative of all who were there? Thirdly I can think of two laughable false flag operations where the "Right Wing thugs" were so obviously from a casting agency (the people waving a flag ON A BALCONY not amidst the Canadian truckers, and the 5 skinheads dressed in black that the BBC focussed on at a PEGIDA rally made up of families, one actually had a No Nazi swastika on no entry sign tattooed on his neck, but the BBC didn't show that. Real Nazi insignia at Unite the Right, yes. If we are quite rightly going to rail against people giving signs associated with murderous or oppressive regimes then we should also rail against clenched fists/red stars and much more than just ISIS flags. 55m died in ww2, 250m have been estimated to have been killed by a "peaceful" expansionist totalitarian ideology. Should we ban their signs or not? Yes, you could even apply it CoE.

I was speaking generally, with specific reference to this: ' Currently every other word coming out of the mouths of politicians is "far right" as they continue to push their narrative to the limit. The events that caused all these incidents seem to have been forgotten, but that was always the intention. They can continue to blame who ever they want for as long as they want, but until our spineless politicians accept and deal with the fact that people have had enough, and stop their pathetic attempts to label any one who disagrees with their warped view of reality as "extreme right wing" these problems are going nowhere. ' rather than specifically to this event as was the poster whose post I endorsed, but see James 105 post above. I actually deleted a disclaimer to that effect as unnecessary, obviously not, I had not factored in the Leftie tactic of twisting and distorting to pretend you said something you didn't. The narrative seems to be that all the rioters were "right wing thugs bussed in" [do we have any evidence of this allegation?], and that no local people were involved, they just helped clean the Mosque afterwards. Do we have evidence that no local people were involved? Have they appeared before a court and their addresses given? Have the Police issued a statement? This sounds so "on narrative " that I can't help but feel it must have been cut and pasted from the Guardian or somesuch. As someone who lived in an East London Borough being taken over by muslims I tend to question the narrative. 'Normal people don’t riot' This applies to Whitechapel, Harehill, Brixton, Toxteth, the poll tax riots too? A material part of the population of People of these areas not normal?

Very well put. Normal people have had enough of this bullsh*t, and labeling a large portion of the population as far right to demonise them is not going to help. Politicians are sitting on a pressure cooker they have created and are blaming the population for it.

I am talking about the rejections following the "upgrade".

True, but a number are saying that the schedule above was never the case, so it is correcting that. You know what sticklers we are for correctness on here - if you don't believe me refer to an extension of stay based on retirement as a "retirement visa".

Do they say that when the perpetrator was indisputably Muslim?

So the two murderous knife attacks above had nothing to do with Islam?

...other than by lefties holding them up as examples of "socialism" and socialism working and providing a high standard of living.

I will hold you rigidly to that espoused principle on all your future posts. I have deleted the link as described above. I will repost if verification is forthcoming.

Lets hold back on this one just in case I have inadvertently picked up on a fake link, on reflection I doubt that what he would say on arrest would be reported by the Police. I will delete the link but there does seem to be a common pattern with people screaming allahu akbar whilst murdering the infidel as prescribed by the Quran. Bury Market attacks and the one where someone chased him with a Narwhal tusk are just two examples.

It was reported* that when interrogated by police the culprit said that he did it 'for Allah'. If that is disinformation by all means show it to be ( a genuine request for clarfication). * on my twitter feed - note I make a judgement as to reliability of sources at the time but don't memorise them. Many times I have rejected obvious fakes.

Deleted due to my having concerns as to the veracity of the source I was referencing.

Do you have an existing TM30 and if so how old is it? Is the IO saying update meaning file one or does the IO mean you have one but it is old and we want you to redo it? Can you post it here? Just seems more and more "Freudian" about tying us to an address. At least the IO did not refuse to process your TM47 and gave you until next time. While I am here, to save others the bother: "I have been here since the Lanna period and have never been asked to show a TM30"

Exactly. My issue is with their tactics not their opposing beliefs. Any attempt to debate (a foundation of democracy) is met with tactics. The Left's "It is not necessary to have better arguments, only to control the media" applies here. The screaming accusations of racism/fascist etc is designed to cower the opposition. It represents filthy low tactics. I posted this in another thread: Teacher has gone from the sand pit with the change of ownership. They were able to kick sand in our faces with impunity and we were prevented from kicking back. They had a whale of a time, but now we can get in the sandpit and kick back. Of course they are much better at dishing it out than getting it back, but if you dish it out you get it back and it's no use crying "fascist bullyboy" to anyone who counters their tactics and demanding teacher who isn't there anymore remove the offending counterpoints.

We have humanoid bots - sad people who have been "turned". They can be recognised by their "slur and link" strategy and inability to engage in counter argument. Also they pick their spots carefully and avoid being called out on their tactics, for example if they use the "that has been debunked" tactic they don't reply to requests to provide evidence of the supposed "debunking", the post has done it's job - some people accepted the false allegation that something had been debunked.

What does it matter that it is a meme. It appears to be making a valid and truthful point. We heard nothing from 2tierKier on the Harehill and Whitehall riots. Basically you are attempting to smear the truth as 'sordid' because it makes an uncomfortable point about the hypocrisy of Starmer and the Left that you idolise.

Any comment on Whitechapel and Harehills rioters being held accountable?

Teacher has gone from the sand pit with the change of ownership. They were able to kick sand in our faces with impunity and we were prevented from kicking back. They had a whale of a time, but now we can get in the sandpit and kick back. Of course they are much better at dishing it out than getting it back, but if you dish it out you get it back and it's no use crying "fascist bullyboy" to anyone who counters their tactics and demanding teacher who isn't there anymore remove the offending counterpoints.

First one writing in the predominantly left wing Washington Post doesn't seem to know what point he is making, or rather his arguments meander and don't support his thesis. The second two are from a Left wing magazine, who might have a motive for trying to dissociate socialism from Nazism. I can't imagine that an Israeli is without bias/agenda when writing on Nazi Germany. You have posted links to propaganda attempting to whitewash similarities between Nazism and Socialism. As for academic credential/position: There is a German saying: 'There is nothing so stupid that some Professor somewhere can't be made to believe it' Hitler as a Nationalist was BITTERLY opposed to International Socialism, what he called [Jewish] Bolshevism, because he believed its plan was to subjugate the German people (and others) to an international order. It was not an ideological aversion. BTW, putting you on ignore as I am unable to come down to your level. You seem to be unable to grasp that I am not making my assertions just because a perfunctory glance shows NSDAP has Socialism in the name and that I am quite capable of understanding that something can be deliberately named deceptively to create an impression that is not or even the complete opposite. . From pasted your article '(To see what’s wrong with that one, ask yourself whether the German Democratic Republic was a democracy.)' Bye.