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That is a very pretty graph but what does it mean?

What is the denomination? How was it calculated and by whom? What is the source?

Does it have any validity?

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Well the least I can say is that the OP succeeded in creating a topic with the only intention of selling his private house that has been running for 9 pages already without being removed.

Other people would be entitled to a classified only.

The reason it has run to 9 pages so far is that it is a very entertaining and informative topic.

We can all relate to Dickie's situation and have our own ideas about whether or not he will find a buyer. Dickie58 I particularly enjoy your robust good tempered replies to your sceptics.

Each sale requires a willing buyer prepared to pay a price that the seller finds acceptable. In this case the property is listed at 25m bt. Having once sold a large (7bed with stables) detached house in a conservation area on a river estuary in the UK I can say the market is small but it exists. It will only take one person to say YES and the house is sold.

Whilst living here I have been amazed at the range of prices asked and received for both condos and houses. One Thai lady I know of who works in a Bangkok restaurant as a cook has built a two storey, three bed house in Isaan for 100,000 baht so far! Walls, windows,roof and flooring but not completed yet. Its an ongoing long term Thai style project.

I wonder what the build cost was of Dickie's property? How many metres at ***? Now make an adjustment for the decline/increase in desirability of Pratunmak Hill (Up or down, Up To You). Now allow for general depreciation of farang currencies against Thai Baht. What figure are we left with?

I wish you the best of luck with your sale. Keep on posting. Its a fascinating story unfolding.

It was an enjoyable experience once they got going.

My partner was keen to leave with many others about half way through their deafening set. Once Nigel? abandoned his drums and sang My Way it took off and we stayed. The crowd who arrived later to hear Lam play definitely improved the atmosphere and the place buzzed.

I don't understand why Dave allows his bands to play at such a dangerous and damaging volume. My partner is still complaining of ringing in the ears now which is 12 hours later. No doubt rock musicians are used to it and have already damaged their hearing irretrievably but many potential customers find such an aural assault painful and unwelcome.

Despite the above, we enjoyed the band and as Aussiechick says they had an unusual for Pattaya repertoire. No hotel California!

Genuine Blues Factory Ear Plugs would make a good addition at the bar.

Moderator. Can we try Ladies in Thailand as we have had no response in this forum?

A friend has a small lump in one breast.

8 years ago she had a small lump removed in a Bangkok hospital. As she does not have insurance, she is looking for the best place for diagnosis and treatment here in Pattaya.

Can anyone recommend somewhere with the right expertise?

Is Banglamung Hospital a good place to go?

Any advice is welcome.

Thank you SOUJOURNER007 for taking the time to write such an interesting and informative post.

I learned a lot about our new Russian tourist friends.

A couple of comments.

You say "Uzbek girls of Russian background working in Pattaya mainly go with Indian and Middle Eastern customers as those do not expect their companion for the night to smile to them or show any affection."

I was told that part of the attraction of Uzbek girls is that they are mainly Moslem and therefore appeal to fellow Moslems.

The Russian operated Bars on Walking Street have a reputation of operating as 'clip joints' and fleecing their customers at every opportunity. The expansion of their bars seems to suggest that the technique is successful and profitable. The Good Old Days of a fair reward for a fair service and a little fake Girlfriend Experience seem to be coming to an end.

Enjoy it whilst we can.

In these troubled times, personal security is becoming more of an issue for everyone.

Andre from Master Safety once gave a talk to the Pattaya City Expat club (he was Chairman one year) and pointed out the difficulties of securing any house in any location. He regarded condos as a much safer, more secure option.

Some hi-rise condo buildings which have restricted access and lifts that are overseen by security personnel claim that no one has ever been burgled in those buildings. The problem for the potential thieves is that they couldn't get the stuff out even if they successfully broke into a unit.

On the other hand, there are lo-medium-rise condo buildings which are every bit as insecure as anywhere. The steel door plates and padlocked iron gates over the outer door tells you all you need to know about the occupants and security. You tend to get what you pay for.

I know of three people currently trying to sell Farside houses in order to locate in beachfront condos for many reasons including a feeling of general security.

What happened to the Business Opportunity that you offered in 2007?

And is it in any way connected to the Full Size Snooker tables that you were trying to sell also in 2007. "start A New Business", SNOOKER TABLES FOR SALE for 480,000baht post 2007-09-07 10:10:55

This is what you said in "start A New Business", SNOOKER TABLES FOR SALEpost 2007-09-07 10:10:55

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I am a New Zealand National aged 52 years, and have been an Expat, residing in Rangsit Pathumthani, Bangkok, Thailand for the past 13 years. I returned to New Zealand on Dec 15th 2008.

In recent months I have spent time with my ailing Mother here in New Zealand.

I have been married to a Thai National for 10 years, we have a home and farm in the north east Sa Keow.

Now I want to come back to my second home in Thailand.

I have been working within the Clean room Laboratory Construction & Equipment Industry (Turn-Key) (Quality System Management Environment), in Rangsit, Bangkok, Designing the laboratories and supplying Electronic and Medical equipment for a total of 13 years. I have held the designations of Sales & Marketing Manager, Managing Director & General Manager.

I have a total of 30 years experience working in National and Multinational organizations in New Zealand, Australia, Hong Kong, Southern China, and Thailand.

I now do not have work to go back to in Thailand, so have decided to start my own business.

I speak Thai, and know how to set up companies in Thailand. I have one already in place, but require a "hands on" Director/Partner Investor to help get this off the ground, as it will entail us to run it from New Zealand and Thailand, involving a select niche group of tourists from New Zealand.

The Investment package will come with a full 50% equal partnership, through a lawyer of your choosing/if requested, full Visa/Work permit documentation, use of my vehicle, and a small Office to run the Thai side off the business, with guidance from my Wife.

I have the other (6) Thais available to make up the numbers for the business, whom I would trust to my grave.

For under 20,000 Euros, only 10,000 Euros up front, 480,000 Thai baht, is their a hard working honest bloke out there that wants to live in Bangers, Work in Bangers, and run a business in Bangers, has a vibrant personality, enjoys a beer, a real people person, then send me your story, and I'll tell you mine.

I have put a great deal of time to survey if I have a viable business opportunity, and the answer is a very definite YES.!

Here is another version of the same incident. Take your pick. Up to you!

Courtesy of Pattaya Daily News

Updated: [November 11, 2009 ] :: 15:00:34 [view 740]

RUSSIAN ARRESTED STEALING CLOTHES FROM PATTAYA SHOPPING CENTER

During a shopping trip with his family at the Mike Shopping Mall in Pattaya, a Russian national has been arrested for allegedly stealing a pair of pyjamas.

Pattaya, the 10th of November 2009 [PDN]: At approximately 11:00pm on Tuesday the 10th police Lieutenant General Chatchai Srisuwan an investigator with the Pattaya police, received a call from a shop assistant at Samwell (clothing store) in the Mike Shopping Complex Beach Road, South Pattaya. The assistant explained to police that a foreign man had just stolen an article of clothing from the store and was attempting to leave the premises

When police arrived at the scene they were met by a Mr Sarod Aimarom age 23, the shop assistant that had initially contacted police and a center security officer. The center security had detained a Mr Vladimirouih Kolesov age 51, for the theft of a pair of pyjamas with a retail value of 780 baht. The pyjamas were found to be in his possession hidden amongst other items in a bag that Mr Kolesov was carrying.

Mr Kolesov explained to police that after earlier shopping in Samwell’s with his family he had purchased a shirt from them and had thought that the Chinese style pair of pyjamas was a complimentary gift for the earlier purchase.

However Mr Aimarom insists that although Mr Kolesov and his family did visit the store and buy a shirt, as well as ask the price of several other items, at no point did the family or Mr Kolerov get offered a complimentary item of any description. Mr Aimaron explained that after the family had left the premises he walked around the shop and discovered an item was missing. Suspecting the recently departed Russian family he alerted security at the mall. The center security managed to apprehend the family whilst trying to flee the complex. Upon looking in the bag that Mr Kolerov had on him they discovered the missing article of clothing.

Security from the shopping complex escorted Mr Kolerov back to the Samwell shop where Mr Aimarom asked him politely to pay for the item. Mr Kolerov refused to pay for the item, still insisting that the article was complimentary. No agreement was reached between the two parties and so, police were called.

Police escorted Mr Kolerov back to the local police station where he was charged with theft. Mr Kolerov still persisted to plead his innocence; however Mr Aimarom had plenty of witnesses and evidence to give police reason to charge him for the

Honda have announced a new 125cc fuel injected low friction water cooled engine in the PCX 125i.

Motorcycle Thailand com have some technical details and a 'review' but do not give any riding impressions. It starts off 'The Honda PCX 125i is pretty close to the best two-wheeler Honda has ever made'.

It has a catalyser fitted and an automatic stop/start system to save fuel. Both features seem a bit over the top for a run around scooter but are needed in the foreign markets that Honda intend exporting to.

The usual Honda Airblade features of combi brakes, plus an improved Fuel Injection system and larger seat and wheels are promised. Prices expected to be a little above the Airblade.

Local Honda sellers seem to have an embargo on giving out any information and say come back in November. They are not pushing for advance orders yet.

Has anyone actually seen one or come across a Road Test anywhere?

It sounds like a great new addition to the choices available.

Wouldn't read too much into the share price, the company reported a sizeable profit and dividend for FY 2008.

I am sure you are correct. The share price is rather more important to those who bought at 2008 prices.

Recent Stock Performance:

Current Price (3/6/2009): .17

(Figures in Thai Bahts)

1 Week -5.6% 13 Weeks -29.2%

4 Weeks -34.6% 52 Weeks -82.8%

I would be very surprised if my Northpoint apartment is not handed over to me on the due date of December of this year as its almost complete. Not sure about Southshore though, as construction hasnt even started.

If by any mischance you are very surprised and your Northpoint apartment is not handed over on the due date.

Then on behalf of the hundreds of party goers who enjoyed Raimon Lands extravaganzas with wonderful entertainments, free flowing wine, spirits, beer, plus great food and firework finales,, may I say Thankyou. Thankyou to all the deposit payers who contributed to such great evenings.

I wish you luck and hope that history does not repeat. Northshore was completed by Raimon but only after the original investors lost their money.

Northpoint will surely be finished one day but who knows if the developer will be Raimon Land who are now suffering like everyone else in the market. Current share price 0.17baht. Hmmnnn.

Good luck Ground Engineer. At least you won't have to find the final balance if the project stops.

EXACTLY,,,, hence,,,this is one of the reasons the wife and i are now selling our ONE OF A KIND WWW.LUXURYHOUSECHIANGMAI.WEBS.COM at a FIRE SALE PRICE

Respect Jamesjimmy.

You can certainly write exciting sales prose. I am breathless. It deserves a feature in The Walking Street Journal. Wow and only 12.5m baht!

As it happens I also have a vet who has given me a vetted value of 25m baht for a rare antique velocipede. Imagine floating along on those softly inflated cushions of bracing sea air as you traverse the streets of this earthly paradise on the pristine coast of the exotic Gulf of Siam.. Listen enraptured to the sonorous calls from the bars of Soi 6. "Hey hansum man, why you no let me sit on crossbar?"

A straight swop?

Best of luck. Its a bargain for someone.

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So what to do? One part of a strategy is to buy the maximum permitted amount of National Savings and Investments Index Linked Certificates. At any one time you can purchase 15000 UKP of 3 year term and another 15K of 5 year term.

As each new tranche is released you can buy another 30k without limit.

Chiang Mai replied.

That sounds like a good idea, I had looked at them before but concluded it wasn't desperation time yet, maybe I should look again! It'll be interesting to see if the UK government will sell them to non-resident ex pats.

Yes. Definitely a non-resident expat can buy them. You can not use the direct online purchase site but must phone 0500 500 500 and register your address as required by money laundering regulations etc. After that you just phone and they debit your UK account as you wait. They are very efficient.

The point about buying now, before 'desperation time' when the banking crisis really hits is that you can only buy two lots of 15k UKP from each issue. When inflation picks up again, as many believe it will, then everyone will be clamouring for them and only able to buy 30k until the Government authorises another issue which they won't do until sales dry up completely. Then it will be too late to get the benefit.

So if you buy now you can accumulate more as each issue appears and roll them over at the end of the term and still get inflation proofing. If the index falls you still get back your investment plus interest.

What are the chances of UK inflation being zero in three years time when all that intervention, or pump priming cash is sloshing round the UK economy? The politicians are fighting the fire (financial credit freeze) by pumping water (cash) and ignoring the fact that the lake is emptying and the price to refill the lake will be higher. (borrowing yet more money).

I am just suggesting that it can form another part of your strategy to preserve your wealth along with everything else (premium bonds are also fun and risk free for another 30k). When the time looks right you can sell at a moments notice and get into index tracker funds or whatever you like the look of.

Its often said on here that no one is clever enough to predict exchange rates accurately. Sometimes we can see trends and go with the flow but unexpected events usually crop up and make fools of us.

The worst of the banking crisis may be over but there are still people out there saying that there is much, much more bad news to emerge and that the very existence of some banks is threatened.

Governments are doing their best to mitigate the crisis but the record shows that most government action fails to achieve its objectives. Indeed much government effort and legislation is subjected to the law of unintended consequences and actually has the opposite effect of what was intended.

So if you believe that Gordon Brown really can save the world then you can relax and wait and see. If you don't believe his rhetoric then action is needed.

A mixture of asset classes such as foreign currency deposits, offshore banks, gold (not for me thanks), bonds and maybe even index trackers or direct share purchases can all be mixed and matched to suit your risk appetite. Hopefully, a spread of assets will give a better result than risking all in one class.

But. History shows that when a democratically elected politician knows that taxes need to be raised to pay for endless government expenditure, the usual response is to borrow more not impose higher taxes. The other proven method of hiding tax increases is to allow the currency to debase so that the debt reduces in real terms. In other words create inflation which transfers wealth from the lender to the borrower who is repaying his loan in a less valuable currency. This silent stealth tax of inflation is much preferred by Politicians.

My feeling is that despite the emphasis on deflation recently, there will be massive inflation before too long to mop up all the cash that has been thrown at the banks and other targets to keep the economy functioning. 'Too big and important to fail' as they have claimed.

So what to do? One part of a strategy is to buy the maximum permitted amount of National Savings and Investments Index Linked Certificates. At any one time you can purchase 15000 UKP of 3 year term and another 15K of 5 year term.

As each new tranche is released you can buy another 30k without limit.

They are guaranteed to match the rise in the RPI (not CPI) and pay 1% interest on top. So you are guaranteed to beat inflation as measured by RPI by 1%. The next issue will have a different interest rate which is announced when launched.

AT present with the prospect of deflation the Certificates don't have a great appeal. But only three months ago the UK treasury was fighting the threat of INflation and not concerned about DEflation. Things change fast, By buying now you can top up with each issue and be protected to the extent of your total holding should we experience another rate of 25% last seen in 1975 or Nigel Lawson's 11% in 1990. The terms are very soft and you can sell at any time although indexing and interest is only added after you have held them for one year.

None of this helps protect you against exchange rate fluctuations but at least you will be able to return to UK with your savings intact. If you think that there will never be another 25% annual inflation then did you think you would ever see 0% bank rates? Its worth considering.

A group of friends visited the Floating Market today.

We were impressed by the size of the enterprise and how busy it was in the present very quiet time in Pattaya. The vast majority of visitors there were Thai and seemed to be happy enough. Taking photos of the fake buildings and eating Thai foods served from boats tied up to the walkways.

Unfortunately we were suckered into going by the Hobgoblin post referred to above which suggested a KFC and Pizza Place. Maybe this was meant to be funny?

see http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Floating-Mar...&hl=pattaya

Sadly there are no such eateries. However there was humour to be found.

The men's urinals were clearly designed by a drug taking hippy. You have to position yourself to fire into the open mouth of a fanciful fibreglass fruit with a bird perched on a branch at its side. If your equipment happens to be at the same height from the floor as the mouth then all is well. If not.....

Post cards of the toilets will surely soon be available. Not to be missed! Or else.

The party's disappointment was assuaged by moving on to the Lung Sawai restaurant where we all ate really excellent fresh seafood and enjoyed the sea breeze. The only upset to our newly established contentment was the fact that some people had a view of La Royale from their seats.

This building seems to bring out the architectural critic in many people. "The worst building paint job I have ever seen anywhere in the world including Soviet prisons" was one of the milder comments. "How could they?". and "But WHY?".

As we drove past on our way back to Jomtien it became apparent to some of our party that not only have the developers commissioned an unforgettable exterior paint job but also managed to build what looks like a shanty town slum of low rise units at the front of the tower. A brand new slum. Now that's an innovation.

Hobgoblin, you have a lot to answer for. First you persuade us into visiting the Floating Market to eat non available Pizza then we end up arguing about the world's worst building paint job.

Next time we will go to the Mantra. You get what you ask for there.

Somchai live on Channel 3.

Did any of our fluent Thai speakers watch this?

What did he say?

Try www.astv-tv.com

Click on TOC and you will receive live coverage with English translation/commentary.

Its one sided but at least its mainly in English.

I am puzzled by all this discussion.

Isn't it a basic economic concept/belief that if the money supply is increased then inflation follows.

At a common sense level, if an economy makes a certain quantity of goods and services and the money in circulation is doubled then the price of those desired goods and services will also increase and eventually double.

One explanation of the increase in house prices over the years (talking about USA/UK here not LOS) is that loans were once made against a single income (usually male breadwinner). Then the partner' s income was factored in leading to increasing prices of existing housing stock. Then the 3-times-income type rules were relaxed and more money was available for those same houses. Prices shot up to use the cash.

Why won't the massive injections of money into the system lead to similar increases in all prices from a can of beans to a new car?

Why are economists forecasting deflation and not inflation?

How can governments keep throwing huge sums of money at banks etc without a rise in general prices following? Again, at a common sense level....if the value of money now halves or more. Then, the nominal price of houses will be roughly back where they were in the more stable and predictable past, ie 3 or 4 times average earnings.

The value of the pound on the foreign exchanges must also half to keep real prices at the true international market level. The pound is on its way already but another big drop/adjustment still to go.

Can any economists out there explain it all to me? My arithmetic above isn't precise, its just the principles that interest me.

She could apply to lease a truck from the mafia office. I think you might be able to ride along and stick your hand out to accept fares, but thats about it. Enjoy! I assume you are tongue cheekin' it but of course you can't just buy your OWN truck and be a baht bus operator.

Jingthing. I am so disappointed in your response.

Why do you think this is tongue in cheek? Thai wife plus falang, surely that has to be a brilliant combination.

Just think of all the innovations a brilliant transport organiser like yourself could introduce. You could get the driver to slow down as you pass the Taxi Meters outside the Avenue Mall and open and slam the doors saying "no meter, No Jingthing".

I can just see you patiently handing back 5 baht pieces to drunks, Indians and Arabs and others who think that 10 baht is the correct fare from Jomtien to the Dolphin Circle.

'No no. Please Sir/Madam Its only 5 baht. I am not a member of the mafia' you will say. "its been such a pleasure to transport you, I couldn't possibly take so much".

:D

I for one will no longer be shopping there in protest and I urge you all to follow my example.

OK agreed. Will do. No problem.

And just for good measure I will not shop anywhere in Bangkok at all, ever,

So, take that Emporium. Biff, bash. I bet you are cringing in fear.

What is Emporium? We don't have one in Pattaya City, the finest place to shop? in the universe. It can't be any good or we would have at least two or three!!

Happy horridays to all.

If you get what you pay for. What should you get when the fare is entirely FREE? Yes FREE no taxes, no fuel surcharges. FREE.

Ryanair for all its shortcomings has opened up European air travel.

Where you once had to deal with arrogant, monopoly airlines now you have choice. You can pay a high fare and get a high cost reliable, quality service or take your chances on cheap and cheerful bus style shuttles.

The business model has worked for Ryanair and Easyjet and has been adapted and copied throughout the world.

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Democratic governments usually insist that will not negotiate with terrorists. They claim that to give in to blackmail would embolden the blackmailers and they would soon be back for more. It would also encourage other like minded criminals to try their luck too.

On September 19th 2008 Henry Paulson demanded $700billions for a financial rescue. He alone would decide what, when, where and how to use the cash.

Just like criminal kidnappers he also demanded no supervision or audit. "And don't bring the cops...OR ELSE" is basically what he said.

Do this NOW or everything will collapse next week.

So, the government did what it said it would never do...it gave him the money.

How long was it before he needed more? How much was used that week to stave off imminent catastrophe? How long was it before it became clear that everything did not collapse instantly as he had claimed.

It is a basic principal of capitalist economics that all companies believe fervently in free markets and free market forces. However, IN THEIR PARTICULAR CASE there are SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. In other words, every company thinks that its competitors should face the full rigours of competitive markets but that they alone should be protected.

Business is hard. Business is difficult. Business can be ultra competitive. Business can give you sleepless nights. Business can fail and you can lose everything. Many politicians, especially European, have never worked in the real market economy and experienced this first hand. They are often slippery tongued word smiths who create a career under the protection of local government or industries that have government support or a near monopoly.

So how much easier is money from weak minded democratic politicians who can claim they are doing good by saving jobs and supporting collapsing industries from those pesky foreigners who make products people actually want at prices they are happy to pay.

Now just watch them line up for some of that worry free cash. A few million dollars spent on judicious lobbying will get undreamed of cash returns. Gimme gimme gimme.

The line is starting now. It will get longer and longer and each industry that is bailed out will put off the necessary restructuring for as long as the cash continues to arrive.

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The British pound has dropped 28% since July, If I could find a buyer for my rental property which is worth 3.5 mill baht, and has a tennant signed up for a year. I would definetly sell, convert to Sterling, and just sit with the Sterling for 12-18 months, then convert back to baht. To put into more perspective, my Thai rental home has risen in value (Sterling) of around £15000 since 14th July, so if I sell now and wait for the baht to get back to mid 60's, I would make £25,000 - £30,000 profit. Last year the Dollar was very weak, Credit crunch hitting the USA first, now the dollar seems to be recovering. So hopefully sterling will go the same way? I am no expert, and hope my Math equates. No doubt someone will answer here.

I think your Math equates but as you say "IF I could find a buyer".

There is possibly a problem here. When you purchased you no doubt compared its price to prevailing UK prices. In July 3.5m bt computed at around 49k UKP. What would 49k buy for your money in the UK? Probably not a lot.

Now put yourself in the position of a newly arrived buyer from the UK. 3.5m GBP now computes at around 68k UKP (using your figures 68 less 28% = 49).

So what would 68k UKP buy for you NOW in the UK? The property snake.co.uk shows many city centre apartments selling for not much more. Some previous Buy To Let city centre flats have been auctioned off by banks for even less. The collapse in prices is at a very early stage in the UK. Another 25% to go according to some and even then the market will be fully priced.

That 3.5m bt condo no longer looks such a bargain. To shift it at the perceived 'good value price' of 49k UKP you will need to price it at around 2.5m bt. Then you will get your money back. In the future you may get less but who can foretell?...not even the Great Naam.

I recently hired several scooter type bikes to see which was best for me.

The Suzuki 125 was fast and nippy but the first one wouldn't run when cold. It kept stalling until it was warmed up.

This is a dangerous feature in Pattaya traffic. The hire company appeared familiar with the problem and mentioned adjusting the carbuerettor at a garage.

It was swapped for another nearly new one.

The second evening my girlfriend couldn't open the seat to get her bag out. The key mechanism was out of adjustment. A trivial quality control issue turned into quite a drama!

This replacement wouldn't start at all one morning. A motorcycle taxi then pushed me a couple of miles with his left foot on my rear right foot peg back to the hire place. This time they looked at the wiring on the handlebars saying that it could be troublesome. If you look at it closely, you will see why!

So, my experience is that they look good and go well enough when they go but the build quality doesn't compare with Honda or Yamaha.

A close examination of the components and construction reminds me of Platinum bikes but they are not that crude.

Are they built in India by any chance? Does anybody know?

There is a new model due out and on paper it looks really good. But I don't often go out for a ride on paper.

How much they want for a new one? A nearly new Honda or Yamaha might be better. You can hire newish ones for 1000 baht a week and test them all out. There are big differences in practicality of the various models. Which is best for you all depends on what you are going to use it for.

Goldfish. I love that Combi Brake on the Hondas but I noticed that some of my pals hated it as you do. For me, Airblade brakes give you a feeling of security that the others don't in Pattaya traffic mayhem.

In addition to many good expats living in LOS, a great many of the farang expat population consists of misfits, drunks, crooks, perverts, anti-social types, or people that have escaped to LOS to take advantage of the the cheap housing, women, and whiskey. I think most farangs with any common sense tend to be more guarded and careful in choosing who they socialize with due to the vast number of losers and western society rejects living in LOS.

Are you serious? Where do you live?

Here in Pattaya we have one of the most honourable, honest, caring, sharing,welcoming,friendly,environmentally concerned,wonderful expat communities you could meet anywhere.

Come and meet us. Visiting is allowed most days.