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Not available for new customers for Krungsri. I don't track SCB. The Krungsri notification states: "Krungsri would like to inform you that the Bank will stop accepting new customer registrations for Krungsri Online service starting April 22, 2025. Existing customers can continue to use the service as usual."

Krungsri online website is here: https://www.krungsri.com/en/personal ... in the upper right corner will be a 'sign in'. There is also a place in upper right corner where language can be changed to 'english'. However, they are about to stop that service for new users. I just went to their web site and i received this notification (copy & paste): Krungsri would like to inform you that the Bank will stop accepting new customer registrations for Krungsri Online service starting April 22, 2025. Existing customers can continue to use the service as usual. My Thai wife tells me SCB have also canceled their computer online access.

I wasn't my comment, and while I would not say they are 'talking nonsense', i do believe they are wrong. Not in Thailand, but in Canada I have had accountants in tax return filing company make a number of mistakes in my tax return for one taxation year. Revenue Canada immediately got back to me demanding I correct my tax return, and by the time I finished sorting the mess with the tax return filing company I ended paying even more money to both the tax return company and to Revenue Canada. After that sour experience, I always researched more and I did my own returns ever since. Once bitten - twice shy. The tax return companies #1 priority is to make money for the owner and the people who work for the company. They do so by advertising they will provide a service ( i.e. filing someone else's taxes for same person). But that does not guarantee that they will get such tax return correct, and if the tax return return is rejected, the rejection goes to the person whose tax is being filed. it does NOT go to the company that prepared the tax return. One then has to take up the problem with the tax filing company how they screwed up a tax return - and then refile one's tax return. Its IMHO an example of "Let the buyer beware". One is buying as service which may be EXCELLENT, or it may cause more TROUBLE than it is worth. .

I've looked through in reasonable detail the two DTAs that affect myself (Canada-Thai, and Germany-Thai) and I have read of no such 'equality' clause. The DTAs are to prevent double taxation. Best that I can read, they are not intended to treat everyone the same. Best wishes to anyone trying to get Thai RD to agree on such, but I would be (pleasantly) surprised if one were to succeed here in getting anything official to treat all the same in the example you note.

No. I believe former German residents are potentially required to pay Thai tax on any Germany sourced 'aged' pension (but I suspect NOT required to pay Thai tax if their German pension is a German government worker pension). Those in receipt of ANY Canadian sourced pensions, are only required to pay tax on those pensions in Canada, and NOT in Thailand.

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My experience is typically overseas trading companies want the Thai TIN if one is assessed to be a Thai tax resident. I am a Thai tax resident. The Canadian Bank of Montreal (BMO) froze my trading accounts with them until I could provide a Thai TIN (after which they required I close my accounts with them as I was no longer a Canadian tax resident). Subsequently, two Canadian mutual fund/stock trading companies, that would allow me (as a Canadian citizen, but non-resident to Canada) requested a Thai TIN for me to open up an account with them. I had previous applied for a Thai TIN in Thailand, and I was denied such as I was bringing no money into Thailand. I was thou told by the Thai RD official, then if and when i were to get a Thai TIN, it may be the same as my Pink-ID (which I have). The official advised my Pink-ID was not yet activated as a Thai TIN. So I provided the two Canadian trading companies my pink-ID # (in lieu of a tax ID) and in the comment field beside the foreign Tax-ID I typed that the Tax-ID was not yet active. They accepted that.

If you only spoke Russian or Chinese , you would have a much more difficult time in Phuket , than if you spoke English. Even the Chinese and Russians in Phuket, if they don't speak Thai, need to speak English to get by. That is the simple fact of the matter. There is so much massive disinformation and axe grinding spins on this topic of Russian and Chinese presence. Yes those nationalities are present, as are many many many other. Which (this massive disinformation re: Chinese & Russian's in Phuket) IMHO is simply GREAT - it will hopefully keep away more tourists, and keep away more expats, and keep the place less busy. its already far too busy with tourists.

After reading an earlier post of another user, I correct this to be: as a result of BREXIT, a new office was set up in Brussels, and all EEA customers needed to enter a new Customer Agreement with the European arm of the company (then called TransferWise Europe SA ( and now Wise Europe)).

I stand corrected. Rather, as a result of BREXIT, a new office was set up in Brussels, and all EEA customers needed to enter a new Customer Agreement with the European arm of the company (then called TransferWise Europe SA ( and now Wise Europe)). .

... I believe this no longer the case. Around the time of BREXIT I believe WISE moved their HQ to mainland Europe ( Holland or Belgium).

Advice? Check your own financial particulars. You nominally need a certain small level of assessable income remitted to, or earned, in Thailand, and also need to be a deemed Thai tax resident to obtain a TIN. Note also with regards to your assessable income for taxation purposes, and note for your TIN qualification purposes, some DTAs, some ministerial instructions, and some Royal Decrees may or may not be applicable to you. It can be complex to assess accurately and " one shoe doesn't fit all".

I confess i struggle to believe he would be taxed for the 2024 tax year in Thailand if he had no local income for the 2024 tax year, and if he brought no money into Thailand for the 2024 tax year. So that is why I am skeptical and I believe that there is more to this story. Perhaps they are taxing him on previous years when he needed to, and failed to, file a tax return for some reason?

Yes, but that is not the last 12 months. Last I checked this month is March. Past 12 months is Feb 2024 to Feb 2025. If your friend brought money into Thailand in Jan 2024, that is not past 12 months, but it is still part of 2024 tax year.

Taxation in Thailand is by calendar year. Not by past 12 months. Also local income needs to be considered. Likely there is more details that you were not told.

Believe it or not, it is possible with Wise to have the verification for a PC login to be sent to a smartphone, before the PC loggin allowed. If the OP set something like that up in error, it would cause them an issueif they have no smartphone.

Wise is working fine for me .. I have logged in multiple times in the past 3 weeks from Thailand, Singapore and Australia. I can log on both with an Android smartphone Wise app and also from my laptop PC ( running GNU/Linux). When I use the PC to log in, it sends a verification request to my smartphone for me to confirm it is me. For the OP, are you certain a verification request is not being sent to your smartphone?

That is interesting to read. Were you informed verbally by an RD official, or did they provide such by other communication means? ( email, social media, postal mail?). I presume they included a caveat saying that was the case ( no tax return required) as long as any local Thai income you might have ( from investments) did not exceed a certain threshold.

There is a LOT of consensus on many details ... and no consensus on some others. Some examples of consensus: 1. For example the Canadian-Thai DTA states Canadian pensions and similar remunerations are only taxable in Canada (and not in Thailand). This has been agreed with all tax advisors, who have gone a step further and also agreed such Canadian pension (and similar remunerations) are not to be included in a tax form. This is also consistent with Royal Decree-18. 2. Also, per por.161/162, there is agreement (tax advisors and Thai RD) that pre-1-Jan-2024 money in foreign bank accounts, if remitted to Thailand, is exempt Thai taxation, and not to be included in a Thai tax form. 3. Also per Royal Decree 743 and RD Ministerial Instruction 427 those on an LTR-WP and LTR-WGC have their remitted foreign income tax exempt. A forum member in a call to the Thai RD tax help line confirmed such income is not to be included in a Thai tax form. Any who dispute the above, are going against both the Thai RD and against different Tax advisors. I suspect there is also agreement in other country sourced income as well ... There are of course, some areas where it is not so clear yet, but I believe with time there will be more clarification. To think thou that there is "no consensus by anyone on tax matters" is not universally correct in regards to Thai taxation.

I think the view of the majority of posters on this forum is no, you do not have to file if your income is not assessable for the tax calculation. There is a minority who disagree and who are determined to file a tax return even thou their income is not assessable. And some of the discussion is debating whether DTA exempt, royal Decree exempt, and ministerial instruction exempt income should be considered assessable despite being tax exempt. So you may not get a 100% agreement answer from all forum members.

Phuket is 'cheap' relative to Bangkok. But I suspect you know that. Are both over priced? Possibly. Possibly not. Yes the Russians and Chinese (yes the Chinese ARE still in Phuket despite what you state) have helped drive up Phuket real estate prices. While its true the numbers of Chinese are less than in the past, they are still present in Phuket and they are still buying real estate. It is NOT just the Russians' buying. Not by long shot.

Nonsense. Pure 100% nonsense.

Ask either Deep Seek or ChatGPT. With ChatGPT on a browser, it provides its sources which you can check. I find it ironic you pull misinformation out of thin air and ask others for their references. Phuket is NOT #1. Time for you to research and update yourself. Once again, you are out of date. A while ago?? How long is a while ago? Once again, you are out of date. Yes, the taxi mafia is still there (in Patong, Kata, Karon), but one can descretly use online taxi apps to obtain cheaper transport in those areas. Outside of those areas one can do so with FAR LESS disretion. You are out of date. Further, most expats have a car and don't think twice about the taxi mafia. You are also in a minority of expats if you had to use the taxi mafia in the past - and most definitely MORE out of date if you did use such in the present. Rubbish. You are out of date. What about the tourists? Last I looked, this thread is about "expats" ... Or did you fail to read the thread topic? Once again, "Quality" expats have their own vehicles, and on occasion when they wish to go drinking and not drive, there are online apps where the expats 'in the know' simply arrange for online transportation and have NOTHING TO DO with the Taxi Mafia. Those who don't do such are simply misinformed, like yourself. As for the tourists, even thou this thread is NOT about tourists, if they want to they also can take advantage of online booking of transportation taxi services. This is the year 2025. Its time to get with the times. The hold of the taxi mafia has mostly been broken. Your failure to concede such indicates how out of touch you are on this topic

My Thai wife uses WeChat in Thailand. A Thai girlf friend of hers (who uses it extensively for business with clients in China) 'invited' her electronically to use WeChat. I assume my wife's friend obtained WeChat functionality the same way (ie invited electronically by someone else with access). In essence, I believe, in order to initially use WeChat (ie register a new account) and then use outside of Thailand, one needs to have an electronic invite from a person who has existing WeChat access. My wife has had had WeChat functioning in Thailand for over a year now - so I supose it is possible that policy has changed for new members. But it definitely can work outside of China.

Many are not claiming this. There is most only one person persistently making such a claim. I think the point is if the Thai government wanted to ensure long term expats file a tax return, there is a way they could do such. However nothing official has been coming out of the many immigration offices in this regard for extensions. Just the opposite, where many have posted of successful 1 year extensions with no mention of Thai tax certificates being needed.