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Your MG must charge super slow during the last 5%. I think your MG must have a very slow final 5% based on how it balances/calibrates the BMS. My Atto charges at the same rate from 85% to 100%....a rate of 32KW. And below that the Atto's charge curve is 88KW up to 65%..then from 65% to 85% it's 57KW...and then as already mentioned 32kW 85% to 100%. Or said another way, charging from 95% to 100% (that final 5%) takes the same time as charging from 85% to 90%, 90% to 95%. Each one of those 5% increments takes approx 7 to 8 minutes. And in the final minute of charge just before it reaches 100% it goes into "calculating" mode where it's calibrating the charge percentage indicator. And I seriously doubt such chargers where you pay an attendant vs needing an app will become wide spread....I expect it to remain very rare. Heck, Thailand don't even do "self-serve, self pay" petrol/diesel fuel pump where you insert your debit/credit card into a card reader built into the pump. PTT did some "testing" on the concept about 10 years ago but after almost 20 years in Thailand I've never seen a self-serve/self pay gas pump.

Go to the Rever webpage for the current promotion.

At the end of the LTR visa endorsement process BOI asks you to upload various documents again such as an "updated" passport scan. Since it could have been months and months since you initially uploaded your passport when first applying you could have travelled the world....got many new stamps in your passport....both foreign and Thai stamps depending on where you travelled...maybe some stamps you are not proud of (like getting kicked out of country, overstaying, etc.)....stamps that Thai immigration might consider in a negative light when it comes to issue of a new Thai visa like a LTR visa. They just need to see the very latest version of your passport even if it hasn't changed at all since you first applied/first uploaded it....that's just the way it is. And some of the BOI/immigration final instructions are "generic" in nature which try to cover all possible cases...like if a person is married and on a Thai spouse visa/extension to upload X-docs as we talked earlier if on a B-Visa do this or that first, etc. It can make their final instructions confusing in some cases....make a person think he being asked to upload some docs that he don't have/do not apply to him. You are almost there....good luck. Heck, since your already got the endorsement notification it just down to dotting the I's and crossing the T's like uploading the latest scan of XYZ, providing an address even if it's just a hotel address, etc.

BYD Thailand is still a LOT cheaper than BYD Australia. See example of 24 month Atto checkup cost cost in Oz...see weblink for each of the checkup costs over the entire Oz warranty period. https://bydautomotive.com.au/service-and-warranty

Hey, with BYD no longer offering "for some models" free labor/spare parts for the schedule maintenance checkups which is valued at around Bt35K and also not offering a free wall charger with installation for some models valued around Bt30K at least that combined Bt65K helps to offset somewhat the higher price us folks paid for some of our BYD vehicles which did include those freebies before the price war went into full swing. 😜

Just for example...many Lazada/Shopee vendors sell it.....get the 100A with CT model. Two different CT (current transformer) types...one type where you must remove the wire to place the CT around it (1st image below) and another type (2nd image) where there is no need to remove the wire as it's a open-close clamp-on type. The clamp-on type is bigger and the clamp jaw contact points can corrode over time which could affect the current measurement. I prefer the first type....a little smaller and no clamp-on jaws prone to corrosion. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/diymore-pzem-018-5apzem-020-10apzem-022-100a-80-260v-ac-digital-energy-meter-used-for-closed-ac-voltmeter-testing-of-ct-series-energy-meters-i2870557510-s10478435915.html? or

I just noticed below car250 article that details the BYD Sealion 7 "scheduled maintenance costs" a person needs to pay over the car's warranty period....that is, labor/parts costs when you take the car in for its "periodic scheduled checkups" to keep the warranty valid. What surprised me was the scheduled maintenance labor/spare parts checkup costs are "not" free as I was assuming the free checkup labor/parts costs still applied to most BYD vehicles sold like when in late 2023 I bought my 2023 Atto Extended range as it came with free scheduled maintenance and even a free wall charger including installation. But from looking at the BYD Rever Automotive website and the "current" promotions for 11-31 Dec 2024 there is no free labor/spare parts for checkups and also no free wall charger with installation for models recently released by BYD like the Sealion 7, M6, and Sealion 6. When I continued to look at the other BYD models it showed the current promotions for the Seal and Atto did include free maintenance labor/spare parts costs and free wall charger. Current promotion for the Dolphin did not include free maintenance/parts costs or wall charger. And the current 11-31 Dec promotions are not to be confused with promotions offered during the recent motor show which were different promotions. So, it seems as BYD is slowly cutting back on freebies such as free scheduled checkups and wall chargers especially for the new models it released this year in Thailand like the Sealion7, M6, and Sealion 6 while still offering those freebies for the Seal and Atto. And the Dolphin continues not to receive freebie checkups and wall charger. Guess that helps to maintain profit in the ongoing price war. Car250.com 18 Dec 2024 media release....partial snapshots below...see weblink for full article and full scheduled maintenance costs over the 8 year/160,000km warranty period. https://www.car250.com/byd-sealion-7-ev-2024-18-1.html

Here's some pics of my 7KW wall charger setup. EV charger 40A regular breaker in main home box Wall charger setup in my carport. 40A (30ma) breaker box at top, charger at bottom, and that power meter I added on later Closeup of 40A(30ma) RCBO Close up of the meter I added to monitor input to the charger. Bought the meter off Lazada and the plastic electrical junction box the meter is at the hardware store....I just cut out the front of the box to fit the meter in. Easy. I even fired-up the charger and was charging my EV for a few seconds to show the type of meter readout provided.

A 40A circuit breaker is required in the main circuit box.....from that breaker 10mm2 wire (live, neutral & ground) to a 40A (30ma) "RCBO" just before input to the wall charger. Yeap, regular breaker on one end of the 10mm2 wire run and a RCBO breaker on the other end. Installed by BYD electrical contractors. Later, I added a wattmeter/voltage/100A meter with CT on the input of the wall charger so I could see/monitor electron flow. Bought it off Lazada. I also have a similar meter on my main circuit box panel to monitor voltage, amps, etc.

Same kind of stuff on an Atto 3 "if you put your heads & eyes down to seat level so you can see under the dash." Just bolts and nuts. In the Atto's case it easy to see if you look under the dash since the carpet don't go as high up like the Sealion 7 to cover the nuts and bolts in some places. See below. On the Sealion I expect there is a nut on that protruding bolt if the person looks closer. Nothing to worry about. And when looking under the dash a person can see all kinds of nuts and bolts, wires, stuff, etc. Nothing to worry about.

Should be no problem in BOI/Chamchuri Sq cancelling your tourist visa just before they issue the LTR visa. The stuff about the Thai spouse marriage certificate/Thai ID card only applies if you ware currently on a Marriage Visa/Extension of Stay which I assume you not since you said you plan to enter on a visa free entry. If you were currently on a spouse type visa/extension of stay BOI/Immigration wants to confirm the spouse is aware you are cancelling the marriage visa/extension AND they want to confirm that you lived up to the requirements of the marriage visa/extension like are you still married. Because if you were no longer married (i.e., got divorced) but didn't take the steps to cancel the marriage visa/extension after the divorce then that means you broke the rules associated with the marriage visa/extension of stay and the BOI immigration would not issue the LTR visa until you cleared up the marriage visa/extension issue. Congrats on the LTR visa.

Previous administrations going back "for decades" didn't have a handle on it.

According to these various track records it's definitely a good time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburgring#

Yeap....made by BYD. And I bet it comes with one year free insurance in case you have an accident before the one year is up the doctors gave you to live. 😜 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U9

Yea, you are right regarding the PTT app/charger as the text on the video states (1st snapshot below) he attempted his charge 4 days after the transition from the old app to the new app which occurred over a 13 hour period between 2 Dec at 7pm to 3 Dec at 8am. Anytime after 2 Dec 7pm (like him making the trip/video 4 days after that 2-3 Dec app transition) if he was using the old app a person would experience what Bjorn experienced which was no chargers being displayed...unable to start a charge. And where he shows him "opening" the app, yeap, that's the old app based on me opening both the old and new app a few minutes ago to see what they look like when first opening the apps. Bjorn just missed the memo which if I remember right came via pop-up message on the old app "and" I think also via email since the old app used a person's email address as their logon User ID. The new app does not use a person's email but their mobile number. I got the memo in late Nov. I loaded the new app 26 Nov...notice no chargers were displayed....I thought maybe something was wrong in my account setup.....I sent PTT Customer Service an email identifying my problem....they responded with about an hour saying the new app would not show any chargers until the morning of 3 Dec. Then for the old app a person would still be able to logon until 31 Dec for historical purposes but couldn't be used to start a charging session anymore (see snapshot 3). And around noon time on 3 Dec after the transition to the new PTT app I stopped at a PTT charger really close to my home just to confirm the new app worked. As I pulled into the 2nd slot a person in the 1st slot was having problems in getting it to work...the app world recognize the charger...whenever scanning the charger's QR code it would say wrong charger. I then tried and was getting the same problem but notice whenever I would scan the QR code for DC Charger #2 the app would respond with it DC Charger #1...and vice versa if scanning the QR code for DC Charger #1 it would respond with DC Charger #2. So, as a test we both tried hooking Charger #1 cable to the car but scanning the QR code for Charger #2....but the charging still wouldn't work. And if scanning the "AC" Charger QR it would responded with a weird number. About that time a PTT employee came over to assist with/see first hand the problem both of us were having. The first thing she want to confirm if we were using the new app, which she called the "blue" app because the icon of the new app on your phone is a blue color where the old app is a white color (see 2nd snapshot below).....we were both using the new (blue) app. She called some PTT phone number and was told the new app was having issues with the "charger database that identified all the chargers....link QR code on the charger to the actual charger location). At that point we both left. I have seen people using the charger since so I guess PTT probably got that issue fixed sometime on 3 Dec. Anyway, Bjorn just missed the memo regarding the old to new app transition....he was using the old app after it could no longer be used to start a charging session. I don't know what was happening with the PEA app. Plus in his video when it suddenly started working I'm not sure if it just started working while he was still complaining OR he actually unplugged & tried again and this time it worked properly. I got the impression from his video he "may/could have" attempted it a second time versus just a long delay in his initial charging attempt. In a lot of his videos he likes to dramatize things by leaving out bits of info which would have explained there was no real drama at all....guess he thinks more people will like his videos and view his other videos if they come with some "drama." 1st Snapshot...from the video 2nd Snapshot....show icons of PTT old and new apps. If you got the old (white) icon although you can still log into the app as of the date/time of this post (and apparently thru 31 Dec 2024) you can not use it to start a charging session after 2 Dec 7pm as you will not be able to see any chargers. Snapshot 3...a 26 Nov email from PTT Customer Support in response to an email I sent them asking why the "new" (blue) app does not show any charger locations. Basically the PTT email says the chargers will not appear in the new app until the morning of 3 Dec...and also with the old (white) app a person will still be able to logon thru 31 Dec to see/download historical data.

And if he was using the "new" app which was available for download "before" the morning of 3 Dec when it would go fully operational then he would not have seen any chargers in the new app until early 3 Dec....and he did add some text to his video saying the video was made 4 days earlier. Now if he had been using the old/to be retired app which was still fully operational until late 2 Dec then he could have charged. Yeap...he probably installed/was using the new app "before" it went fully operational the morning of 3 Dec.

As FYI regarding 1 year address reporting at BOI/Chamchuri Square Immigration I did my 2nd report today...hard to believe I'm just a few days short of having my LTR Pensioner visa for 2 years already. Anyway. at the BOI website under the Manager LTR Visa pull down menu they list the forms/docs required to do the reporting. However, when went today I had prepared the 4 required items (but not the TM61 since I was doing my own reporting) and the only thing they required from me was the TM95 and last year's 1 year address report receipt/notification. They "immediately" handed me back copies of my passport and TM6 card without review. Now, if reporting at another office they may require all the items listed below but they sure didn't at BOI/Chamchuri Sq Immigration. Total time "within" the immigration office was only about 5 minutes...really fast. Can not do the report online. BUT my round trip drive time this afternoon from my western Bangkok home to the central Bangkok Chamchuri Sq Immigration Office was around 2.5 hours as traffic was horrendous (kinda typical for central Bangkok with various road construction project underway that snarls traffic). Happy Holidays. https://ltr.boi.go.th/page/1-year-reporting.html

Little info provided regarding the EV; mostly a video of his visit to Thailand on this trip.

In the last half of his video he tried to use a "Shell" charger in the ReverSharger app and when scanning the charger's QR code there was just buffering....couldn't get the charger going. I have used/attempted to use "Shell" chargers in the ReverSharger app 4 times at 3 different locations. Each of those 4 uses was nothing but problems such as the app not recognizing the charger/QR code....or I was able to get the charging to start but when trying to stop the charging short of 100% it was very hard for the app to recognize the charger's QR code or after repeated scans of the chargers QR code where apparently nothing was happening until after around 3 to 5 minutes the charger would then stop the charging....it was like the app was able to scan the QR but then the charger took 3 to 5 minutes to respond and stop the charging. Based on my experience I can ""not recommend those charging locations identified in the ReverSharger app with the Shell icon (i.e., looks like seashell) as I had nothing but problems...and Byorn had his problem also with the Shell charger. Like I said, I've tried/used 4 Shell chargers at 3 locations.....all had similar problems. And when driving by a Shell charger I rarely see people using them....maybe because they can be a pain to use due to "non-response, slow response, etc." And poor Bjorn may have really been trying to use the PTT charger during those 12 hours or so between the evening of 2 Dec and morning of 3 Dec that PTT Station Pluz was doing the transition from the old app to the new app. I know he added some text to the video saying he attempted the charge 4 days before 2 Dec. But what Bjorn experienced is what was happening during the late evening 2 Dec to early morning 3 Dec old app to new app transition period. During that period chargers no longer appeared in the old app as it was being retired and even in the new app they would not appear until just before 8am 3 Dec when the new app went fully active. Out with the old app, in with the new app.

When I picked up my Atto in late Oct 2023 the salesperson point out "in English" to be sure to accomplish the warranty service check-ups plus or minus one month OR plus or minus 1,000Km. I had the 3 month/5,000Km checkup done at 2 months 3 days and 4,480Km. I had the 1 year/20km checkup done a few days under 10 months and at 19,200. Had it done a little over 2 months before 12 months since I was within 1,000km of the 20,000Km checkup. I'm now little under 14 months and have driven 27,700Km. At the 12 month point I was probably around 23,000km. A tire rotation every 10,000K is a typical recommendation for all tires....has been as long as I can remember. One of those recommendations from tire manufacturers to allow the tires to last longer and also from tire/repair shops so they can make money on rotating the tires. However, BYD will only accomplish a "free" tire rotation every 20,000km under their warranty program for Thailand. If you want them to do it every 10,000Km you will need to schedule maintenance and "pay" for the rotation. BYD owners in other countries operate under slightly different BYD warranty warranty rules and in Oz they have to pay for all checkups with the exception of the courtesy 3 month/5,000km checkup, whereas, in Thailand all checkups for 8 yrs/160Km are free.

Since you submitted additional docs on 9 Dec and 10 Dec was a govt holiday it's only been around 3 business days. Probably not enough time for BOI to fully evaluate your application with the upload of the new doc. Good luck.

Well, if I understand above correctly and considering that the great majority of vehicle buys in Thailand are financed (and just for discussion let's assume all 76K of above mentioned EV registrations for 2023 were financed) then dividing 76,314 registrations by 90,000 reported sales gives almost a 85% loan approval rate which means a15% loan rejection rate. A loan rejection rate far lower than around 50% that some industry groups keep whining about. Now maybe EV buyers are better off financially and experience a much lower loan rejection rate than many ICEV buyers. Maybe a lot of the loan rejections occur for income people (let's say below Bt20K/month) who are trying to buy an ICEV pickup truck or compact car....lower income folks who simply don't consider buying an EV for whatever reasons. I feel if the banks would release detailed data on loan rejection rates we would see the great, great bulk of rejections apply to lower income applicants with the great, great majority trying to buy a ICEV vehicle such as a pickup truck or compact car. But that's just a gut feeling I have....can't provide any reference....just the feeling I get from the nature of numerous media releases this year and my own Thai in-laws. While loan rejection is definitely impacting vehicle sales (EV and ICEV) the other two key factors of high household debt level and people being gun-shy of buying right now due to the ongoing vehicles price-war may be bigger factors in comparison to the loan rejection factor as to why vehicles sales have been generally sluggish for the last two years.

Some partial quotes from above Bangkok Bank Sep 2024 article...and I have added some comments. Guess the Electric Vehicle Assn of Thailand needs to get a new crystal ball as that 150K forecast was surely a WAG. But at least the actual tally for 2024 may beat 2023 by a little (i.e., growth over last year). ICEV sales are being impacted more than EV sales. I don't blame the bank's for rejecting loan applications which doesn't meet their income and debt level requirements....ability to repay....etc. ICEV sales are being impacted more than EV sales.

There may be no major differences between a wall and portable chargers other than outside physical design, input electrical wire/plug, etc. Both types do the same basic thing which is monitor/control the amount of amps flowing to the EVs in conjunction with the EV's onboard charger. A wall/portable charger does "not" rectify 220V AC to a DC voltage.... so, it's not really a charger at all. Technically it's "EV Supply Equipment (EVSE)." An EVSE is basically an electronic safety switch/breaker which communicates with the EV telling the EV onboard charger (this is the real charger) that the EVSE will only honor a certain maximum amperage flow/pass-thru like 32A, 16A, ec., "and" the EVSE will also monitor for earth faults/shorts/etc. The EV onboard charger must agree to not request more than a certain amperage as identified by the EVSE. When the onboard charger and EVSE come to agreement the EVSE will then engage its high power relays allowing AC current to flow thru it to the EV onboard charger where the AC to DC rectification magic occurs....that is, the EVSE turns on it's electric spigot allowing AC current to flow to the onboard charger where it's converted to DC voltage to charge the battery. And the EVSE monitors the current flow in coordination with the onboard charger. If the onboard tries to draw more current than the EVSE told it earlier then the EVSE immediately breaks/stops the current flow....the EVSE acts like a circuit breaker because the onboard charger broke its agreement with the EVSE that the onboard charger would not draw more than X-amount of amps. As to other differences between a wall or portable EVSE like does it have a Wifi connection, RFID on/off, display, selectable amperage max, mobile app, etc., well, that all depends on the manufacturer. And if you take the cover off a wall EVSE you will find a lot of empty space and only see a small circuit board or two inside with some connectors, relays, and wires. In a portable charger it will have very little un-occupied space, a "smaller" circuit board, etc.,...and its input power cord comes with a plug attached....it could be a plug that plugs into a typical household outlet, a big 32A special plug, etc. Regarding wall EVSE that cost Bt30K-50K those must be brand name premium (i.e., over-priced) EVSE and/or that pricing includes "installation costs" where high amps wire, circuit breaker, upgraded electric meter, etc., come into play. Even if you buy a Bt6K 32A portable EVSE if you plan to run it at 32A or maybe even 16A you may need to upgrade your house wiring, add circuit breakers, etc.., which cranks up the total cost. And you can get wall mounted 32A chargers for a LOT less than Bt30K...just for example the BYD ESVE for under Bt10K posted at the bottom. And you may be wondering why I said ".....maybe even 16A...." Well, if the 16A outlet you plan to run the portable EVSE on is on a circuit that is already powering other outlets which you have things like refrigerators, microwave, lights, TV, etc., plugged into already then than circuit is already pulling X-amount of amps....let's say 5A just for discussion. Plug-in the portable EVSE set to 16A max....add 5A and you are now at 21A....even more (maybe around 8A more) if you turn your microwave on for a few minutes. If the main breaker box circuit breaker all those electrical devices are hooked to say a 16A or 20A breaker then that breaker is going to trip within a few minutes to a few hours...probably trip while you are asleep and you wake up to a warm refrigerator, the EV stopped charging, etc. And there is even the possibility of overheat wires. Now what do you do since the circuit breaker tripped? Well, you try setting the EVSE to a lower max amps....maybe 13A...maybe 10A...maybe all the way down to 8A. Get down to 10A or lower then that no better than the 10A portable EVSE that probably came with your EV. So, be sure to fully evaluate....know the max amps....of the house circuit you plan to use the EVSE on. You may find out you will need to have some higher amperage wires, circuit breaker, etc., installed if you want to charge at 16A or 32A. Every house will be different as to the electrical circuits it has running around the house and what those circuits power.