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Maybe rich folks who like having a premium ICE van are beginning to switch to premium BEV vans like the Densa D9 (BYD owned but mainly designed by Mercedes). Another ICE market segment transitioning to EVs.

A 5 Feb 2025 Autolife article on BEV registrations for Jan 2025. See weblink below for full article. https://autolifethailand.tv/ev-register-jan-2025-thailand/ I've also included a few key snapshots from the article. BYD is still the 800 pound gorilla among the EV brands. And the new girl on the block, the BYD Sealion 7, is currently the most sought after (#1) but with the economical BYD Dolphin still being very popular (#2)...and more BYD models in the Top 20....see below. Total registrations of 100% electric vehicles in Thailand in January 2025 total 12,376 units | Decreased by 9.4% BYD Sealion7 is the champion

Plenty of chargers in the Chiang Mai area. Below image is from the Charge Loma app set to only show CCS2 "DC"chargers from the "major" charging networks in the Muang Chiang Mai area. So many that the pindrops overlap/mask each other. And there are surely "minor" networks chargers also in Muang Chiang Mai which are not shown...more minor charging networks popping up all the time. And of course the charger that will be predominantly used day-to-day is the EV owner's home wall/portable charger. Some people think DC and AC chargers are of limited quantity because they just don't see them as they drive along...just don't see many signs along the road saying "EV Charger Here." But use individual charging network apps and/or crowd-sourced apps like Plug & Share, Charge Loma, etc., they are easily found and found to be in many locations...but not in "all" locations like many rural areas. But for trips along most major roads there are lots of DC chargers to choose from...and if you signed-up with multiple charging app networks (I'm signed up with 6) the only problem you'll have is which charging location to pick out of numerous choices available.

Yeap, you are good if you like to live dangerously....that is, thinking an EA Anywhere charger will be available anywhere you travel to. I would recommend you signup with at least 3 charging networks....focus on those with the most "DC" chargers....be sure PTT is one of those at least 3. More info/charging networks recommendations in the EV Charging Stations (CS) topic which you have participated in.

Atto's sold in Thailand, whether built in China ot Thailand, come with Dashcam. My 2023 Atto built in China and I bought in late 2023 long before the BYD Thailand factory went operational came standard with Dashcam. But I guess for some other BYD models like the Seal it's optional/extra cost.

Yea....few real men left now days...RIP (due to not reading the instruction manual). Since we are both still kicking that means we read the instruction manual. 😉

Be sure to download the manual to your phone/computer....and also read the manual in the car infotainment system. Will the manual cover everything you need to know....solve every issue...tell you everything you need to know---oh heck no!!!. But the manual will answer the great majority of your questions. https://www.byd.com/en-th/support/service/owners-manual

The problem is medical care cost will probably continue to increase faster than the average inflation rate which means $50K might only be enough to pay for some/limited medical care.....and you'll probably will not save the $50K in premium savings because you will spend it on something else along the way. But it's your choice....it's not an easy choice to make. Good luck in whatever you decide.

That box you refer which your rearview mirror is mounted contains a variety of electronics like the forward looking sensor that feeds signals to some of the car's safety features, the Dashcam camera (which only occupies around 15% of the space within that box, electronics that control dimming of the rear view mirror (if you have an auto dimming mirror), etc,. Just a bunch of electronics....a lot more than just the Dashcam camera. If you are standing outside in the front the car looking straight at windshield to view that mirror assembly you see something that kinda looks like a pyramid shaped flat funnel and what maybe is a camera lens in the middle of that funnel---now that is "not" the Dashcam. That funnel shaped thingie deals with sensors looking at the road in front of you. The Dashcam camera is separate and is at the very bottom of the box assembly kinda off to one side...and you may have a hard time even seeing it from the outside. But go set in the car, turn on the car and then go to the Dashcam icon in the infotainment center to view the Dashcam image AND then run you fingers along the front, bottom, kinda right hand side of that box assembly while setting in the car and you see your fingers on the Dashcam image. you won't even notice that box assembly after a week or so (unless maybe you are always looking for birds and planes in the sky versus cars on the road). Congrats on getting the Atto!!!!

Yeap...figuring out when you will croak requires time travel which is probably pretty hard to do.😜 Yes, the penalty percentage stops once you enroll....that is when Medicare calculates the lifetime penalty percentage. Example: if you enroll say three years late then that means a 30% higher Part B premium penalty until you croak. Like if you enrolled today typically Medicare takes the current standard Part B monthly premium ($185) and increases it by the penalty percentage of say 30% (approx $55).... so your monthly premium would be $185+$55 = $240. Fast forward say 5 years when the standard premium might be $250....then increase that by 30% which is $75 added to the $250 for a monthly premium of $325. And when trying to estimate lifetime monthly premium sayings if not enrolling in Part B, well, be sure to be realistic with yourself in estimating the "inpatient & outpatient" costs without any medical insurance coverage. Medical costs can be HUGE even for relatively medical issues. While Part A may do a fairly good job of covering costs while an "inpatient" once you leave the hospital/nursing facility/hospice you are now in "out patient" care which Part A generally does not cover and Part B coverage begins. https://www.medicare.gov/providers-services/original-medicare/part-a https://www.medicare.gov/providers-services/original-medicare/part-b

Don't confuse as to "when" you can enroll /re-enroll n Medicare after returning to the U.S. with the potential lifetime late enrollment penalty of 10% per year. Two different animals. Repeat, two different animals. There are only certain situations where the penalty for late Part B enrollment will not apply. Just returning from living in Thailand ain't one of them unless you were working for a sponsoring organization of volunteer services or your employer was providing creditable group health insurance coverage. And to meet the "...creditable..." part it must pass Medicare.gov requirements to be accepted as creditable coverage. If you are just the typical returning expat who has been enjoying retirement life...etc., and do not meet one of the specific conditions to avoid the Part B late enrollment fee then there will be the 10% per year late enrollment fee that you will pay until you croak. See directly below medicare.gov website...and I also included a partial quote from a medicare info type website below. Be sure to thoroughly review the government medicare.gov website https://www.medicare.gov/basics/get-started-with-medicare/sign-up/when-does-medicare-coverage-start https://creativeplanning.com/international/insights/financial-planning/medicare-for-u-s-expats/

It's at a PTT station based on info on the OneCharger FB page and looking at Google Maps pictures. And I think PTT and OneCharger are developing a close relationship since in the OneCharge app it of course shows OneCharger chargers but it also allows you to show PTT EV Station app chargers. No other charging network chargers (e.g. PEA, EA Anywhere, Elexa, etc.,) can be shown.

Yea....a NEDC range rating which most EV's sold in Thailand come rated at are pie-in-the-sky rating. The NEDC range rating is far from being real world. Now finding out what the WLTP rating for a person's EV gets much closer to real world. Like my BYD Atto with 60.5KWH battery has a 480Km NEDC range rating and 420 WLTP range rating. I've now had the Atto for 15 months and over 31,000km. I checked/calculated my "real world" range MANY times over the last 15 months of driving those 31K kilometers and I can definitely exceed the WLTP rating during most of they year....like getting around 425-442Km real world range when driving conservatively in ECO mode in the greater Bangkok/bordering provinces area which is mostly driving around 50 to 90kmH with one or two trips per months into the center of highrise Bangkok where traffic is typically horrendous, stop & go traffic jams, etc. But in the hottest part of the year....say Apr - Aug due to the EV's "electric Air Con compressor" having to work a lot harder (i.e., spin faster which eats more battery electrons) to keep the EV cabin cool...I set the the A/C to 22C....I typically get around 400-410Km. When I did a real world range test/calculation last week (late Jan) I got around a 428Km real world range but this is a cooler part of the year. Now when I look at the average electron consumption per 100Km in my Atto's infotainment system it says over the last 15 months my average consumption has been 12.7Kw/100Km which is saying my average range for my 60.5Kw battery tank full of electrons has been 476Km. Yea, right!!!!....maybe in BYD's dream. But when doing real world driving range calculations as I mentioned it's more in the 425 to 442Km ballpark.

Yea, the OneCharger network seems to predominately be comprised of slow chargers (i.e., 7 or 22KW Type II chargers). Below is with the app's charger search results set to only show chargers that are greater than 47KW which results in around dozen or so locations clustered mainly in the greater Bangkok area. Now when set to show DC and AC chargers it shows a good number across Thailand. Expect the great bulk of the AC Type II chargers at close to condos, coffee shops, etc., and meant for the local residents. But there must be some errors in their chargers database as that gray colored charger on the far left in Kanchanaburi details as a 500KW "Type II" charger. Wow, that must be the biggest Type II charger in the world....around 71 times more powerful than my 7KW home wallcharger. Must be a typo as they show a CCS2 connector image which means it's a DC Fast Charge versus an AC/Type II connector image and as mentioned they say it's a Type II charger. Now when I click go to that location and then click and look at the image of the charger's location it's in a small town at an intersection where there is a CJ Store and Mr DIY Store, but I never could spot the charger so I expect it probably a Type II wallcharger next to some small shop.....I can't see them installing a 500KW supercharger is a in-the-sticks town along the border. Search Set to Only show Chargers greater than 47KW

It's normal to have some concern (anxiety) about switching from dino fuel to electrons when being concerned about easy access to electrons. But keep in mind the great, great majority of kilometers you put on your EV will just be your day-to-day local driving like doing the grocery store runs, hauling family around, etc. And assuming you will install a 7KW (32A) wallcharger OR use a sloer 10-16A charger you can plug into a regular 16A household outlet then you will have easy access to all the electrons you need "for your local driving." Well, what about those l.....o......n......g trips where you will need to recharge at least once. Yes, that is when you will need to sign-up with some charging apps.....and of course you need to have a payment option that works with app. A charging app turns out to be pretty useless if it don't have a payment method (i.e., card, QR, etc) you can use. Now those charging apps that only accept a payment method "by card" like the PTT and Altervim charging apps can cause frustration if you do not have a credit or debt card the app will accept. You might want to register with these apps and then see if they will accept whatever Thai bank debt/credit card you have....along with maybe seeing if they will accept whatever "foreign/home country" card you have. If those two apps accept your Thai bank card then shouldn't have an frustration in using them. For me, both of these apps accept my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card and my foreign cards. But other apps like PEA, EA Anywhere, Elexa, and ReverSharger that offer payment by card "and/or " by app Wallet or app QR/PromptPay shouldn't cause any frustration as long you use Thai bank "mobile banking app" were you simply scan a QR code to pay for a charging session (like many people do now days....just scan a QR code to pay for something) or top-up the charging app's Wallet via QR/PromptPay in order to pay for a charging session directly from the charging app's Wallet. But if you are person which still does not use mbanking (instead only use ibanking on the computer), don't want to pay via QR/PromptPay, pretty much use cash to pay for most things, then, Yes, you are going to be a very stressed person using an EV because you'll be afraid of going on long trips. You do not need to have an EV to register with any of above apps. Yes, they may ask for the type of EV you have and even license plate number but you can just enter the EV you plan to have and made-up license plate number....the app will accept it...you can update the license number after you really have an EV. Why don't you install the PTT app, register, and then see if it accepts whatever Thai bank card you have and maybe even any foreign cards you have....if it accepts them you are good to go. And just ignore these social media stories where a person couldn't find a operational charger before he ran out of elections as that usually means he was a dumb-a$$ in letting his EV battery drop to low before getting serious about dropping by a fast charger to get some electrons....that person just didn't do adequate planning for his long trip. And believe me there are now MANY DC fast chargers along the main highways of Thailand for those trips where you travel on main highways.

Yea....ditto for me. But please think about that "...derived in the previous tax year..." wording in RD743 when the tax year we are all talking about now is tax year 2024 for tax return filing purposes.

@oldcpu Below is a partial quote from your post directly above. While I was of the same mindset as your observation until a few weeks ago, I'm now of the mindset just as stated by Expat Tax that it only applies to remitted funds from the previous tax year with the previous tax year meaning 2023 or before since the tax year we are all talking about "right now" is tax year 2024. Even thou we submit tax returns in early 2025 that tax return is all about 2024 income....not the current 2025, but 2024 remitted income. And if we fast forward a few years if bringing in income during say 2027 it would need to be income derived in 2026 or before to be tax exempt under RD743 which applied to LTR visa holders. I think the key word is "derived", repeat, derived which was is not in the ExpatTax answer but is the word used in RD743 regarding LTR tax exemption which I have also partially quoted below RD743, which is still in effect, that came out in 2022 well before the Revenue Department's Por 161 ruling came out in 2023....and as mentioned RD743 is still in effect. A revenue dept directive signed by the prime minister of the time not the much lower ranking revenue dept director. Now here's my example of my current mindset when I disregard when filing a tax return for a certain tax year (like filing in early 2025 for tax year 2024) because "when" a person files the paperwork for a certain tax year that filing window/date is really just a distractor...what is key is the actual tax year being talked/filed for regardless of whatever month of the following year you actually file the tax return for the tax year your filing applies to. Example: if I have an LTR Pensioner visa and remitted Bt1M say on 31 Dec 2024 that remittance would be taxable (assessable) if that Bt1M was also "derived", repeat, derived anytime in 2024 like it was a Cap Gains distro, 401K/IRA distribution, dividends/interest, employment, etc. Notice the focus is on when the income was "derived." But if that Bt1M was derived before 2024 (like in 2023 or before) then it would not be accessible/taxable. Yes, that sounds exactly like the "old" rule for everyone." And I'm completely disregarding Por 162 that talks pre-2024 cash income being non-assessable when remitted regardless of what time of visa a person has. Basically, the "old" rule that applied to everyone to include those who do not have an LTR visa which would also mean the tax exemption for a Wealthy Pensioner in RD743 was nothing new at the time of RD743's issue; instead, it was merely pointing out a rule that already existed for everyone up until that rule was changed in 2023 by Por 161 which stripped that option for most everyone except certain LTR Visa holders since that rule existed in RD743 which is still active. A rule that already existed and BOI just used it for advertising purposes...making it sound like a new tax exemption when in fact it wasn't. Now what was new was the 17% tax income tax rate for the LTR Highly Skilled Professional Category. And "if" my mindset is right then that also means when in 2022 BOI first started advertising the LTR visa for certain LTR visas such at WP, WGC, and WFTP as being tax exempt it was "not" something new under the tax code at the time....but many of us took it as something brand new. Yeap, that's my mindset of the day when I add the key word of "derived" from RD743 into this confusing tax mix. Has your mindset considered the "derived" word---not to imply you haven't and your mindset is not the correct mindset. Quote from oldcpu's post directly above Partial Quote from RD743 but I did the bold text the phrase of: ".....derived in the previous tax year..."

One thing I don't particularly like about some tax company webinars is where they have a representative from the TRD who speaks no or little English. So, the tax company representative who is a Thai and also fluent in English asks the question to the TRD rep in Thai....then TRD rep gives an answer for a few minutes in Thai....and then the tax company rep converts that answer to a short reply in English. Anytime someone speaks in a language I don't fully understand for say 3 minutes and the fluent translator converts that to say a 30 second short answer in English, I feel like important details of the answer may have got lost or completely left out in the translation. But hey, this is Thailand...the national language is Thai...I don't expect Thais to be fluent in English (or really know any English) since I'm not fluent in Thai.

Sounds similar to what many Seal buyers where being told back in late 2023/early 2024 when the Seal was launched in Thailand on 28 Sep 2023 and was what everybody wanted. And don't be surprised if your BYD dealership starts telling you the particular Sealion 7 model (Premium or AWD Performance) and/or color you ordered is backordered for X-months along with a wishy-washy expected delivery date, BUT if you will accept this other version/color of Sealion 7 you can get it within a week. Hang in there for exactly what you ordered!!!....and hope it comes in soon.

Not really LTR visa related, but this afternoon I listened to a live ExpatTaxThailand webinar where a high level lawyer from the Thai Revenue Dept answered 10 questions. The 10 questions were supposedly the 10 most asked questions that expats sent in to ExpatTaxThailand in preparation for the 1 hour webinar. One question was if a person had no assessable income for 2024 do they still need to file a return and the lawyer's answer was, No. Another question dealt with used of "credit cards" to buy stuff in Thailand and the lawyer said credit cards are "not" listed as income in the Revenue Dept code. Another question dealt with the pre-2024 income exemption as to if that applied to cash only like in your bank account and investment accts also. The lawyer's answer for "cash only" accounts.

Used an Altervim 150KW charger today at my nearby Lotus's store. The last time I used an Altervim charger--which was my first and last use of any Altervim charger until today's test--was Jan 2024 shortly after I registered on the Altervim app. This 1st test of a few minutes/kilowatts was successful....total price was Bt7.5/KW...I paid via my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card. Today's test (my 2nd test) was a ditto of the 1st test. No drama. My Bangkok Bank card was charged immediately. And the charger (shown below) and app were the "most responsive" of any charging session I've done with any charging network (i.e, PTT, ReverSharger, PEA, etc). Yes, the charging session today was very easy. And Altervim is still perfectly happy with my Bangkok Bank debt card. Altervim 150KW Charger

Glad it worked out. Regarding Altervim, the app shows they now have 119 "locations" with right at 100 of those 119 locations being at certain Lotus's stores around the country...and then most of the rest being primarily at some 7-11's. 1st snapshot below is a zoomed-out snapshot showing the rough locations around Thailand. And based on me actually visiting/using the Altervim chargers at two different Lotus's in both cases the chargers were kinda hidden/buried among all the regular parking slots with a small sign identifying their location in the parking lot. This made them a little hard to find among the hundreds and hundreds of parking slots in the mall's parking lot. So, you may have to look hard to find the chargers located "somewhere among all the other parking stalls"....it may not be like pulling into say a big PTT fuel station with dozens of little stores/food stalls, but still being able to easily find/see the chargers. You should also consider signing up with EA Anywhere as they have the most chargers in Thailand and the 2nd most locations. The app has a Wallet function you can top-up via QR code or card....I've done such several times via QR code when paying for some test charging sessions. And I just checked my EA payment profile and remembered I no longer have any card loaded because I had deleted my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card from my payment profile mid 2023 (that I had successfully used to pay for my 1st test charge around a year ago) when newspapers were carrying a few stories about EA Anywhere "parent" company having some financial problems with some upcoming bond payments that might possibly lead to bankruptcy...but I guess they worked thru those issues. Since the EA Anywhere app also has a Wallet function I decided just to delete the card and use the Wallet function whenever I need to use a charger....I've paid via the Wallet function a couple of times....and I've got like 3 baht in the wallet right now...before I had about Bt200 but drew in down when reading about the companies possible financial issues. AND tonight I got the urge to see if I could re-add my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card to EA Anywhere and I successfully did on the "2nd" try although the 1st try apparently had a successful card verification process according to an EA Anywhere message, BUT I forgot to click the "Save Card Info for Future Payments" during that verification process and the card was not saved. Therefore, it didn't show up in my profile after the card was successfully verified. I then successfully added a US credit card where the EA Anywhere verification process did "not" ask if I I wanted to "Save Card Info for Future Payments" but the card still appeared in my payment profile after the verification. I then tried the adding the Bangkok Bank debit card again (the 2nd try) and this time I clicked the "Save Card info for Future Payments" since it asked that when trying to add this card...and when the verification process completed the card now showed in my EA Anywhere. So, apparently EA Anywhere treats the card verification process a little differently depending on whether the card is a debit or credit card....like asking if you want to save the card in your profile for future use. So, you just might be able to add two more charging apps to your collection...Altervim and EA Anywhere. And then have access to the largest charging network (EA Anywhere) in Thailand when counting total AC + DC chargers and then with Altervim have access to chargers at 119 locations with around 100 of them being at the larger Lotus's malls. Cheers. Snapshot for Altervim app showing its charging locations around Thailand. Snapshot of Chargers in Thailand as of 31 Dec 2024 according to the Electric Vehicle Association of Thailand (EVAT), however, it really does not list all charging networks/chargers in Thailand...it only lists the major ones that wish to provide data to the EVAT. Please note EA Anywhere has the most AC + DC charging stations in Thailand and the 2nd most DC charging stations just behind PTT. https://evat.or.th/ev-information/current-status/index

This morning I was able to add two U.S. credit cards to my Altervim payment profile. No OTP process was used. Will do a charging session in the near future to see if my Bangkok Bank debit card is still accepted for an actual payment; if not, hopefully one or both U.S. credit cards will work .

Update on use of the Elexa by EGAT app (and a little bit about Altervim): As mentioned above on 22 Jan/Wednesday the Elexa app was painfully slow again for a few hours like the two previous Sunday afternoons I had tried to use it. Painfully slow on mobile connection or home Wifi...and regardless of if I was in Nakhon Pathom or in the Bangkok area. Today/Sunday I was in Nakorn Pathom again and the Elexa app was working normally/speedy so I decided to try a charging session...and that charging session went fast and smooth "except the payment stage." Although I had my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card loaded in my Elexa payment profile the last time I had used the card for charging session payment with Elexa was Dec 2023 shortly after I had signed up with Elexa---and that Dec 2023 payment occurred without hitch...no problem. However, today Elexa would "not" accept payment by my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card. By not accept it I mean once starting the process to pay a OTP would be sent to me which I received and entered....then Elexa would take a just few seconds to finalize the transaction and even displayed a message saying the "transaction was successful." Repeat, was successful. However, after just a couple more seconds Elexa took me right back to the basic payment page where you chose the method of payment. It was like although Elexa said the payment transaction was successful apparently it was not. I then opened my Bangkok Bank mbanking to see if payment had indeed occurred and maybe Elexa was just slow in acknowledging payment. But my mbanking showed no payment had occurred....I don't mean Bangkok Bank showed something but rejected it...I mean there was no transaction showing at all....like no payment had been asked for by Elexa or given. So, I tried payment via the card again....same results as 1st attempt. And remember this card was had been loaded in the app since Dec 2023 and a successful Elexa payment made in Dec 2023. So, I then decided to pay via QR code payment and that went without a hitch....Elexa showed payment and Bangkok Bank showed payment. I then tried a new charging session...charged for a few minutes/few kilowatts...once again tried payment via the Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card and once again I got the OTP, entered it, Elexa said the transaction was successful. BUT once again Elexa just goes back to its main payment page like it had not be paid yet--which apparently it hadn't. I then once again paid via QR code without problem....Elexa is now happy as its been paid. I'm now wondering is Elexa or Bangkok Bank rejecting the payment....which one is the party pooper. Although Elexa is saying "successful transaction" right after I enter the received OTP from Bangkok Bank which allows Elexa to finalize the transaction maybe at that point "Elexa" decides not to accept the payment....maybe it sees some info at that time that makes it change its mind and does not actually finalize the payment. Or, maybe it's Bangkok Bank rejecting it even thou the bank sent me a OTP to finalize the transaction/payment. And Yes, I did correctly enter the OTP....no typos....even cut and pasted one time to ensure I didn't fat finger the entry. . To try to determine if it's Elexa or Bangkok Bank not approving the payment at the very end I decided to go to a PTT station just a kilometer away and use the PTT app for a charging session. I've had the Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card loaded in the PTT app for over a year....have used it numerous times to make payment via the debit card to include just a few weeks ago. I also have two of my US credit cards loaded as backup. I do the charging session, select payment via the Bangkok Bank card, and payment occurs instantly and successfully....no OTP process like Elexa used. I check my Bangkok Bank mbanking app and the payment shows and I get SMS saying payment has been made. That proves to me that it was "Elexa" and not Bangkok Bank causing rejection of payment using the card. PTT is perfectly happy to be paid using the Bangkok Bank debit card but apparently Elexa no longer is. Later on when back home in Bangkok I start thinking that "maybe" the Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card was no longer accepted for payment via Elexa "although it's loaded in my Elexa payment profile...and the only way you can get it loaded is if Elexa accepts it. But as mentioned they initially accepted in back in Dec 2023. AND maybe since I just passed their semi-new e-KYC thingie about a week ago maybe deleting the card from my Elexa payment profile and adding it back (if possible) will fix things. I figure if I can "not" add it back then that means Elexa no longer accepts Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit cards like they did before. Well, I deleted the card and could "not" add it back. When trying to add it back it would go thru the same OTP process just like actual charging session payment, I receive and enter the OTP, Elexa says transaction was successful and then shows a message it may take about 1 minute for the card to appear in my profile....but it never appears. Once again it's kinda like Elexa says success but then immediately changes its mind without explicitly saying so. I tried again....same result. So, I decide to see if I can add a US credit card....Elexa goes thru the same OTP process which goes fine with a message of transaction successful...the message appears it may take up to 1 minute for the card to appear in my profile and it "does" appear within seconds. I then add a 2nd US credit card without problem. So, I now have two US cards loaded in my Elexa payment profile. I quickly check at both of my US banks and see the transactions where Elexa charged a small amount and then immediately refunded it just like they said they would during the card approval/loading process. I then try to add the Bangkok Bank debit card "one more time" to Elexa and once again unsuccessful. So, apparently Elexa no longer accepts Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit cards....and maybe not even other debit cards....maybe just credit cards....or maybe "who really knows." So a note to @Andrew Dwyer: switching from your Bangkok Bank UnionPay debit card (which you can't get Elexa to accept) to a Bangkok Bank Mastercard/Visa debit card probably will not help/not be successful...you'll probably experience what I experienced when trying to add a Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card. But as mentioned it did accept my US credit cards---now whether my US cards will accept or decline an actual payment transaction is another story. I will give it a try in the near future....if the payments are declined I'll just pay Elexa via QR code payment. I now need to give Altervim charging app a try as I only have my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card loaded for payment and unless something has changed they do not offer QR code payment.....or at least they didn't around year ago with I did one successful charging session and payment via Bangkok Bank debit card. Before I go do a test at my nearby Lotus Mall I'll try loading at least one of my US credit cards as a backup payment method if payment via Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card fails. Hold one...Or better yet, I think I will just delete the Bangkok Bank debit card from my Altervim profile and see if I can re-add it....if I can that's a good sign it will be accepted for an actual charging session payment. Ok....I just deleted my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card from my Altervim payment profile and was able to add it back no problem....Altervin did not go thru the OTP process like Elexa....and I immediately got a Bangkok Bank SMS saying Atlervim debited Bt1 from my acct and immediately refunded Bt1 although when I go to my Bangkok Bank mbanking it does not show any transaction for that quick Bt1 charge immediately followed by a Bt1 credit back to the acct. So, I'm probably still good to go in using my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card with Altervim to pay for charging sessions just like how the debit card works fine with the PTT app. Tomorrow I'll probably try to add one of my US credit card to my Atervim payment profile as a backup...just to see if it accepts foreign cards...too lazy to do that right now because the card I will use I keep in the safe....and I'll do a real world charging session with Altervim in the near future to see if the Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card is still works for payment....I think it probably will since I was able to re-add the card tonight. These Thai charging apps that only accept payment via "cards" are giving me grey hairs...can be a pain; I prefer the apps that "also" allow payment via QR code and/or Wallet where the chance of payment rejection is zero or durn near zero.....no need to worry about the charging app or your card-issuing bank rejecting payment via card. Oh well, it is what it is.

BYD dropped it starting for 2024 models. My 2023 Atto I bought new in late Oct 2023 still had the Build Your Dreams...and it hadn't been setting around for sale...it was fresh off the BYD boat from China to Thailand.