billd766

I called them Thursday afternoon and they reminded me that Monday was a holiday. I said "see you Tuesday" and nothing was said about moving back. I have to go Tuesday because my visa extention expires then and I have to drive past the labor office to get to the old location. I'll try there first and let you know where they are and what their plan is if they have one.

The bridge is now open and the water is receding .

Thanks Wayned

At the moment I have a few days left but I am in Klong Lan 125 km to the northwest and the wrong side of Dechatiwong bridge.

I will get there sometime or worst case up to Mae Sot.

I called them late Friday afternoon and the lady said that they would be closed on Monday for a public holiday (even floods won't stop that) and to call Tuesday as they may be back to the Tourist Police place on Tuesday.

I will probably come down Thursday or Friday.

Cheers

Bill

OK thanks for that.

A lot of you guys live with the MILs I'm shore the majority of the world would not respect you.

In my case you got that the wrong way around.

My mother in law lives with us in her own small house that we built with her in mind.

She is also a year younger than me, speaks no English at all and every morning I give her her diabetes injection and in the afternoon she does it herself.

Also I really couldn't give a rats axxx whether the world respects me or not as the world certainly doesn't know me.

Have a nice day.

I know that I will.

It went something along the lines of............. "Khun King Canute" I think!!!!:jap:.

You obviously don't understand the point of the story of King Canute.

Canute is famous for the tale of the incoming tide. According to legend, Canute's courtiers (red shirts and Northern Thai's) flattered him into believing that his word was so powerful that even the tide would recede at his command. Canute is said to have taken this compliment literally and had his throne placed by the shore (he hasn't received it yet so this is slightly inaccurate) and vainly attempted to command the waves to recede until he almost drowned (the insertion of 'almost' is the most disappointing bit).

WHO doesn't understand the story???????:jap:.

Yes, I thought so, you don't understand the point.

I found this on Google which was more the way I remembered from school some 50 odd years ago.

http://inspirationalstories.com/0/91.html

Long ago, England was ruled by a king named Canute. Like many leaders and men of power, Canute was surrounded by people who were always praising him. Every time he walked into a room, the flattery began.

"You are the greatest man that ever lived," one would say.

"O king, there can never be another as mighty as you," another would insist.

"Your highness, there is nothing you cannot do," someone would smile.

"Great Canute, you are the monarch of all," another would sing. "Nothing in this world dares to disobey you."

The king was a man of sense, and he grew tired of hearing such foolish speeches.

One day he was walking by the seashore, and his officers and courtiers were with him, praising him as usual. Canute decided to teach them a lesson.

"So you say I am the greatest man in the world?" he asked them.

"O king," they cried, "there never has been anyone as mighty as you, and there never be anyone so great, ever again!"

"And you say all things obey me?" Canute asked.

"Absolutely!" they said. "The world bows before you, and gives you honor."

"I see," the king answered. "In that case, bring me my chair, and we will go down to the water."

"At once, your majesty!" They scrambled to carry his royal chair over the sands.

"Bring it closer to the sea," Canute called. "Put it right here, right at the water's edge." He sat down and surveyed the ocean before him. "I notice the tide is coming in. Do you think it will stop if I give the command?"

His officers were puzzled, but they did not dare say no. "Give the order, O great king, and it will obey," one of then assured him.

"Very well. Sea," cried Canute, "I command you to come no further! Waves, stop your rolling!. Surf, stop your pounding! Do not dare touch my feet!"

He waited a moment, quietly, and a tiny wave rushed up the sand and lapped at his feet.

"How dare you!" Canute shouted. "Ocean, turn back now! I have ordered you to retreat before me, and now you must obey! Go back!"

And in answer another wave swept forward and curled around the king's feet. The tide came in, just as it always did. The water rose higher and higher. It came up around the king's chair, and wet not only his feet, but also his robe. His officers stood before him, alarmed, and wondering whether he was not mad.

"Well, my friends," Canute said, "it seems I do not have quite so much power as you would have me believe. Perhaps you have learned something today. Perhaps now you will remember there is only one King who is all-powerful, and it is he who rules the sea, and holds the ocean in the hollow of his hand. I suggest you reserve your praises for him."

The royal officers and courtiers hung their heads and looked foolish. And some say Canute took off his crown soon afterward, and never wore it again.

I have a similar problem as the OP from time to time and now I just let it go and do what I want the way I want.

Quite a few times we have been sitting around and I start to talk to my wife and some other person buts in.

Usually I say a little louder that I am speaking to my wife so please wait.

If they carry on I then shout at them to shut up as I am speaking to my wife and if you don't like go away.

That usually stops it dead and everybody looks at me as though I am stupid/crazy/wrong etc BUT it does work.

A couple of years ago they started to build a new bridge across the road from our house over the klong so that it is easy to get from one side to the other even during the normal heavy rains and it would make a bypass for the village.n The klong was about 10 metres wide, sometimes dry in the summer and sometimes a couple of metres deep in the wet.

They dug out the klong a bit and dropped some 1 metre concrete pipes in and I explained that it was nowhere near enough.

They politely listened to me and ignored me and carried on doing their thing.

After the 5th time it got washed away I gave up telling them.

Eventually it got finished and they went away happy.

The new road is beautiful for the first couple of kms and then it stopped at the dirt track for another 4 kms before joining another new bit of road at the other end.

At each end and each side of the bridge the built a concrete slope and steps down.

Last week after a lot of heavy rain for a few days one piece has fallen a couple of metres and you can see that it was stuck on as an afterthought and not attached to the bridge at all.

Where they dug the klong out to get the "free" sand they altered the flow of water completely and now the klong is some 50 metres wide and eating the land away at each side.

I hope that they get through the Somalian pirates OK.

One of these might be fun to have.

The bridge is now open and the water is receding .

Thanks Wayned

At the moment I have a few days left but I am in Klong Lan 125 km to the northwest and the wrong side of Dechatiwong bridge.

I will get there sometime or worst case up to Mae Sot.

I called them late Friday afternoon and the lady said that they would be closed on Monday for a public holiday (even floods won't stop that) and to call Tuesday as they may be back to the Tourist Police place on Tuesday.

I will probably come down Thursday or Friday.

Cheers

Bill

Firstly, Pussers, could not remember if was the 60's or 70's and I knew someone would know, so it was either 1971 or 1975, unless anyone else knows better?

Been to bog C today! We went by motorbike from Nakhon Sawan Tok but its not accessible only to lorries via Sawanvitte, we had to take the 3005 to Route 1 and turn south , before you reach the Phitsanulok junction you will down to 1 lane and you will switch to the northbound carriageway. THERE IS ONLY ONE CARRIAGEWAY OPEN PASSING BIG C. I lane going south, the rest are northbound. there is water round the front of BIG C on route 1 although the carriageway is clear of water its just very busy. In Sawanvittee its knee deep and the entrance from this road into Big C is closed, knee deep, so headed back along rout 1 till we got to 3005 and turned left, water has broken up a lot of the surface and one stretch of water westbound is about 50 yards and I guess 4" deep but passable. Going over the traffic lights (not working) the road is dry past Ban Esaan (open) then we hit a patch of water about 50 yards long, use the outside lane only! There is a fuel station on the east bound side, that's where the water is. We turned at the next 7-11 where it is dry but up the road I could see water it looked deep on the westbound carriageway outside Jar Moo Chum ( policeman 3 soup restaurant ) probably not open for a few days til the water goes down.

Also baht buses, saw green, yellow, orange, red and white ones in service but they do not appear to be running on their normal routes. I would not rely on them for a while.

The relief river running through Depalm has slowed dramatically and is falling.

Things seem to be returning to some form of normality but no bread in Big C or 7-11 for a while now, guess the bakery is flooded, the out of use carriageway on the route 1 looks a mess. There is obviously a lot of cleaning up to be done, you have all probably experienced the mud and sand left on the road. Still been a nice day so things are getting better.

Firstly this

Black tot day

http://www.webhistoryofengland.com/?p=677

Black Tot Day – the End of the Rum Ration

Black Tot Day on board HMS Phoebe

Black Tot Day on board HMS Phoebe

On 31st July 1970, the last rum was issued to ratings – on a day known as “Black Tot Day”. The Portsmouth Evening News said:

……sailors said farewell to the last issue of Nelson’s Blood, (as rum was known in the navy), by conducting mock funerals and wearing black armbands…The annual Christmas pudding stirring ceremony in HMS Bellerophon was brought forward today so that the usual four pints of rum could be included in the 150lb mix

Different ships carried out different farewell ceremonies. One ship in the Arabian Gulf buried their last barrel, and erected a headstone which said, “Good and Faithful Servant” on it.

HMS Dido put the last tot in a bottle with a note inviting the finder to drink to the health of the Royal Navy, and threw it overboard.

British Navy Pusser’s Rum, on sale since the 1970s, is the Admiralty’s mixture of 6 different rums, as served on board ship for centuries.

I spoke to a lady at Immigration late Friday afternoon and she told me that they are closed on Monday for King Chulalongkorn substitution day and to call on Tuesday as they may be going back to the office then.

My mate living there suggested that I come down the route 1 and down the 3005 Sawanvittee road and turn left at the bottom, left again at the end then left into the Tourist Police place and immigration.

I would also like to try to get to Withi Thep road which is one road over from Fairy land straight opposite as I need some meds.

I probably won't come down until Thursday or Friday now as the water levels should be lower still.

Thank you very much for all the help and good input you have put into this thread.

Cheers

Bill

For me it would be the Honda Gold Wing GL 1800 flat 6 as a cruising bike (money no object).

GBP 24,000 in standard condition.

At 50 baht /1GBP = 1,200,000 plus 275% taxes on top around 3,300,000

http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/tourers/#!/gl1800/

I have an Acer Aspire 5738ZG and the screen went on that a couple of weeks ago.

I took it to the shop I bought it from a couple of years ago and they told me a screen would cost 4,300 baht.

I have waited and waited but they told me that BKK is flooded and Also Ayuthha and Nakhon Sawan and didn't seem to understand when I explained that the BKK to CM buses were running and it could have been put on a bus to be collected, Thai Post is still working etc.

I looked around and found LED screens for various prices (I don't need a laptop any more) so I asked what they had and at what price.

There is a shop under BigC in Khampaeng Phet where the computer shop is and they had a 23 inch Acer LED external screen with a 3 year guarantee for 4,790 and the closest the shop would go to was 5,500.

I took my laptop (no charge but they wouldn't take the screen off for me) to Banana IT who tested the monitor on my laptop, took my screen off (for free) and I now have a bigger and better screen and a 3 year guarantee for 400 baht more that the computer shop wanted to charge me.

When comes the time to replace my computer I know where I will be going.

You folks that are bestowing honors on the man might think about trying to convince the family members of the 270 victims of Pan Am flight 103 and the citizens of Lockerbie, Scotland, what a good man he was.

It might be a hard sell.

Lockerbie was in the past (by the way, I was on the Pan Am flight the day before 103; it was Pan Am 101 and originated in Frankfurt and picked up passengers in London. The 103 flight went every other day and originated in London.) The US and Europe made peace with Gaddafi this past decade and he, in fact, joined them in fighting against Al Qaeda. Big mistake. The lesson from this episode, especially for the North Koreans and Iranians, is: you can never trust America and Europe. Decommission your weapons of mass destruction and NATO will turn on you in a second. Fact is: Gaddafi had the right to put down an armed rebellion in his country and the people in DC and Europe who had spent the last couple of years planning investments and telling him how good it was to be friends with him instead joined with the rebels, among whom are avowed terrorists. Nice job. Libya will drop from the list of advanced nations into a cesspool of America's and Europe's making.

You do realise that on 8th September 1969 Gaddafi overthrew King Idris of Libya in a military coup so at that time the King had the right to put down the rebellion in HIS country.

Therefore would it be reasonable to say that the NTC and the people of Libya had the same RIGHT to overthrow the Gaddafi government?

Basically AFAIR if you have the green book for a motorcycle andthe book details match the bike ie chassis and engine numbers, colour, number of cylinders, cc etc you can buy and sell the bike legally.

It will have a number plate, perhaps tax and insurance.

On pages 4 and 5 (and up to pages 14 and 15) will be the details of the bike and the previous owners.

16 and 17 will tell you when the road tax was last paid.

18 and 19 will list the owners and any change of number plates due to moving to a new district etc.

Basically (if it not a fake document) it means that it is legal and you can buy it,own it, ride it away and do what you like with it.

That is the easy bit.

Now assuming that the bike does not have a green book but it does have a full invoice with all duties paid etc then all you need to do is to go to the local vehicle licencing department and register it.

Easy?

No!

Firstly it will need a full emission check which is only done at a couple of places in the country, Mor Chit in BKK for certain but I am not sure of any more.

Depending on the bike it can cost anywhere between 50 and 100,000 baht to get it done legally and it can take several months or more to get it done.

After that provided all the customs duties are paid and you have the receipts you should be able to get it registered and legal to use on the road.

Provided that you have all the documents AND have insurance which is difficult with no number plate then you may be able to ride it around.

Now if it is a nice big bike and you have no plate and the local BiB take a fancy to it they can stop you and impound the bike while you sort out the fines and paperwork and your bike may get "lost" in the police compound but you may see a policeman riding around on it.

You wrote

But then it gets confusing again because this seller who appears to sell a lot of bikes writes the following:

"come with all Thailand Legal Riding and Ownership Documentation (No Greenbook) + One Year Transferable Insurance Available"

If you believe and trust him, before you buy from him please come to see me as I have a bridge for sale cheap and only one owner from new.

Basically my advice to you is simple, easy and free.

If it has a green book then most probably it is legal and OK.

If it doesn't the please politely walk away and keep your money until another bike you like with a green book turns up.

I have a Honda Phantom which I bought over 2 years ago with 5,xxx on the speedo which is a goog reliable cruiser despite the slagging it gets from hyper bikers but a rocket ship it ain't.

I looked around at a lot of bikes, Honda steeds etc which with a green book were out of my price range and without the green book would have cost more in the long term.

I eventually found after about 6 months of looking a Yamaha Virago 535 cc with a green book and legal though a bit untidy and it took me a month and 2 trips to BKK to get it.

In the meantime I saw some beautiful Viragos and Steeds but not one with a green book.

There will probably be a few bikers who will read my post and say but it isn't like that, it's really easy as I know a guy who did it quick and cheap and.... etc.

Always remember in the end it is your money and your choice.

My advice, go for one with a green book preferably owned by a farang as we belive in servicing and TLC.

Perfect answer my big hairy friend... I am supposing you are a big huggable bear... lol

Fun aside, this is a really good answer, it just ended my search for any bike without a green book. Clearly i need to be extremely lucky for it to be worth it....

Apart from that i should take a good look at the book, and compare it with the bike as much as possible, and if it looks good i can buy it safely.

BTW i have had my eye on a virago 535... what is it like, and does it give me that chopper feeling? I want a bike for cruising, and i am in love with the shadow, and the steed, but with green book they are very expensive.

Thanks a lot

Janno

Oddly enough the Virago 535 is not that common in Thailand and I was lucky to find mine.

It looks like this

It does give me that comfortable cruiser feeling.

I still have my 200cc Phantom but it was never a rocket ship and while the power was OK (just)5th and 6th gear were both overdrives and to get anywhere I had to boot it down into 3rd or 4th. It would cruise all day around 95 kph but overtaking was always interesting.

The Virago cruises comfortably around 115 to 120 kph and I have reached 151 kph (GPS true)simply by opening the throttle wide.

There are quite a few Virago 400s around and some with green books too.

Mine cost me 50,000 baht with a green book, 2 side panniers and a top box but it was lying around mostly unused and needed (it still does) some TLC and is not perfect by any means but definitely worth the wait and the money BUT you need to find a good reliable mechanic or work on it yourself and spares are not always easy to find.

That said however I really enjoy riding it and I still get a kick out of keeping up with some of the local boys with their Sonics and loud exhausts then smilinmg and waving gracefully wind the throttle open and leave them behind.

Sometimes I play dropping 2 or 3 gears and disappearing.

I am old and it is a way of having some harmless fun.

I saw a beautiful Kawasaki (I think) Zephyr and my bike mechanics place but alas no green book.

Whilst I live 400 km south of you I usually buy my eggs at the local market.

I am sure if you ask around someone will be able to tell you where the nearest one to where you live is.

I have no idea anymore about supermarkets as I haven't bought eggs there in years.

Some farangs got into trouble with immigration for overstaying visas after helping with the tsunami relief in 2004. If you want to fill some sandbags to boost Yinglucks popularity then fine otherwise mind your own business in LOS. Thai's arent interested in farangs.

It's not about Yinluck, it's about poor people that have lost everything.

Besides, my wife is Thai, and she wants to help, I'd just like to know if I can help out while we're there.

I am with you 100%.

If Yingluck loses all she has in Bangkok then she has other places and more funds to replace them.

Poor people on the other hand generally don't have too much and a lot of them will share what they have with other people without thinking of what they may get in return

When you have little to start with and no way to replace what you have lost then you may get into a downward spiral that just may be stopped by a helping hand which in turn seeks no reward.

Basically AFAIR if you have the green book for a motorcycle andthe book details match the bike ie chassis and engine numbers, colour, number of cylinders, cc etc you can buy and sell the bike legally.

It will have a number plate, perhaps tax and insurance.

On pages 4 and 5 (and up to pages 14 and 15) will be the details of the bike and the previous owners.

16 and 17 will tell you when the road tax was last paid.

18 and 19 will list the owners and any change of number plates due to moving to a new district etc.

Basically (if it not a fake document) it means that it is legal and you can buy it,own it, ride it away and do what you like with it.

That is the easy bit.

Now assuming that the bike does not have a green book but it does have a full invoice with all duties paid etc then all you need to do is to go to the local vehicle licencing department and register it.

Easy?

No!

Firstly it will need a full emission check which is only done at a couple of places in the country, Mor Chit in BKK for certain but I am not sure of any more.

Depending on the bike it can cost anywhere between 50 and 100,000 baht to get it done legally and it can take several months or more to get it done.

After that provided all the customs duties are paid and you have the receipts you should be able to get it registered and legal to use on the road.

Provided that you have all the documents AND have insurance which is difficult with no number plate then you may be able to ride it around.

Now if it is a nice big bike and you have no plate and the local BiB take a fancy to it they can stop you and impound the bike while you sort out the fines and paperwork and your bike may get "lost" in the police compound but you may see a policeman riding around on it.

You wrote

But then it gets confusing again because this seller who appears to sell a lot of bikes writes the following:

"come with all Thailand Legal Riding and Ownership Documentation (No Greenbook) + One Year Transferable Insurance Available"

If you believe and trust him, before you buy from him please come to see me as I have a bridge for sale cheap and only one owner from new.

Basically my advice to you is simple, easy and free.

If it has a green book then most probably it is legal and OK.

If it doesn't the please politely walk away and keep your money until another bike you like with a green book turns up.

I have a Honda Phantom which I bought over 2 years ago with 5,xxx on the speedo which is a goog reliable cruiser despite the slagging it gets from hyper bikers but a rocket ship it ain't.

I looked around at a lot of bikes, Honda steeds etc which with a green book were out of my price range and without the green book would have cost more in the long term.

I eventually found after about 6 months of looking a Yamaha Virago 535 cc with a green book and legal though a bit untidy and it took me a month and 2 trips to BKK to get it.

In the meantime I saw some beautiful Viragos and Steeds but not one with a green book.

There will probably be a few bikers who will read my post and say but it isn't like that, it's really easy as I know a guy who did it quick and cheap and.... etc.

Always remember in the end it is your money and your choice.

My advice, go for one with a green book preferably owned by a farang as we belive in servicing and TLC.

has the Thai law against "volunteering" without a work permit come back to bite them?

If so, good. Maybe they'll realise that it's a stupid law. Untill they change the law, let them deal with their problems, it's their country.

A very small part of it is (indirectly through my wife and son) my country.

In times like this I really don't think anything would happen especially if you were on TV3 or another channel.

The law sir, is a ass to quote Mr Bumble from Oliver Twist, but in times like this blind eyes are usually turned.

I would think that the people you would be with would think much more of farangs even for a short time like this.

I would like to help out but at 67, fat with shot out knee caps plus living 400 km from Bangkok would make me more of a liability than an asset.

We are talking about Chinese bikes here. They all suck. Buy Japanese. Problem Solved.

And this is your carefully crafted advice as a fully qualified motorcycle engineer having personally tested every Chinese and Japanese motorcyle available world wide.

You really need to change your medication and get out more.

Forget your predjudice for a moment

Could Thaksin now be legally classed as a Motenegran citizen?.........as such, would Thai law be applicable to a Montenegran citizen outside of Thailand?

Just pointing out a possibilty.....

Prejudice has nothing to do with it.

Thaksin may be a Montenegrin citizen. But that is irrelevant, because he is also a Thai citizen.

He is also a convicted criminal and still is under the current laws.

He was not convicted under the military Junta but under one or the other governments which came after both of which were on his side and both of which had the opportunity to change the law.

He was convicted in a legal court operating under the rules of the law at that time.

He may still be a Thai citizen but until the law is changed in his favour or not when he comes back he should be put straight into jail and then the rest of the crimes he has been accused of should be heard in a court where there should be NO politcal influence at all and NO demonstrations should be allowed outside the courts or prison by ANY side at all.

After all he said he was not guilty of any crimes at all and would acceppt the court ruling.

It was against him so he did a runner which is strange for a man who was willing to accept the verdict.

Thanks Wayned

At the moment I have a few days left but I am in Klong Lan 125 km to the northwest and the wrong side of Dechatiwong bridge.

I will get there sometime or worst case up to Mae Sot.

We had a lot of rain last night, not heavy but over a long period so every where pretty wet and standing water. Surprisingly on my bike ride this morning the water has gone down again, road that were under water yesterday pm are now 1/2 dry. The channel to take the surplus water away from the Depalm estates is still flowing a rate of knots, just like last night, 2 concrete poles have been placed across but it is not in use so cannot get to 7-11 to see the position there, will try again later. Although it is now grey, cool and feels like there is moisture around the barometer is at the highest for ages and going up when it should be coming down at this time of day- 1007.8.

A friend has gone to Bangkok today, I have asked if he can tell me what conditions are like going towards Big C and on, so will see if I get a call, if I do then maybe get an idea what is happening re Immigration.

My school tells me that immigration has moved to the labor office in Nakhonsawan on the road to the railway station

Hope this helps

Got the information from wayned the tel number is 083-485-4833, hope that helps you too!

Dont forget Trafalgar Day, the Navy good be in town!

Thanks guys

The next nearest to me is Mae Sot but I still have a few days to go yet.

On Saturday night up here we had a tremendous thunderstorm and heavy rain all night.

The route 1117 from my place back to Klong Lan was flooded just as you get to Klong Lan though I got through with my 4x4 pickup OK and there wasn't much water in the village.

Ah, the RN, rum, bum and baccy boys whuch is why the RAF walk like crabs when the RN is in town.

I have a bottle of Pussers Rum from NZ in my cupboard.

I am due for a 90 day report in Nakhon Sawan on the 23rd Oct and I will come from Klong Lan and then either Pang Silathong to the route 1 or down the 1072 an across to Salok Bat and then down to NakWan.

Do you know if the Immigration department is accessible?

My guess is thaat today its underwater, but water is going down slowly. I am in Nakhon Sawan Toc and since yesterday three new dams, 2 on my estate and one near the 7-11 on the 3005. Would you belive it they are stock taking today . The water on the 3005 looks less that yesterday and is passable with care in that area but both carriageways are full of water to at least the traffic lights heading into town, lots of short measure high price fuel in bottles about. 1/2 litre of 91 prices range from 30-50 bts.

That is today, I would call them 21st and ask what the situation is, maybe they will be happy to give you a few days grace under the circumstances. If they are not able to get to work, try the police station, if someone can ask for a senior officer and get a quote and his name/number for when you go, eventually. Dont worry til Trafalgar Day!

Thanks for the update.

I have another 7 days after that I can get there in and I can always say that it was due to the weather and floods.

I had to look up Trafalgar day on Google.

I am an ex crabfat and it was a little before mt service time though I do remember when Pontious Pilate was a sprog u/t.

I am due for a 90 day report in Nakhon Sawan on the 23rd Oct and I will come from Klong Lan and then either Pang Silathong to the route 1 or down the 1072 an across to Salok Bat and then down to NakWan.

Do you know if the Immigration department is accessible?

I must try to download something like that and start at level 1.

I haven't played chess in years but I used to enjoy it.

My Buddha,

It's not Ginger Ben time alraedy is it?

I did have a drool over the ham, sausage rolls, pork pie and the scotch egg though.

There is another thread about paying tax on pensions from abroad while living in Thailand.

If that should happen then it could be grounds for citizenship perhaps.

Posting a link to this other thread would certainly be helpful to me at any rate.

My apologies.

I am having a brain dump sort of day.