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30,000 baht-  Even just the lawyer would cost more than that.

36 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

I like Bhutan because it's beautiful and they reject all the foreigners.

Probably why they are one of the happiest countries in the world. Too many tourists are like the plague- destroy everything.

1 hour ago, phetpeter said:

Personally, if the main thing on your wife to be's mind is dowry, perhaps it would be best to extend the courtship for another 6 to 12 months. Just to be certain that she really does care for you and not just the cash!

Even better another 24 to 48 months. 12 months is nothing in the long con.

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

I liked to advice of demanding to be the head of the family.  I like the advice about making sure all siblings contribute their share.   I would make splitting the land contingent on all siblings contributions to support Mom.  Seems to always be one sucker daughter carrying the load.  

The way I see it most farang are going to be the smartest man in the village with the best decision making ability.  So mum should be proud of a take charge guy. 

Dream on.

You obviously have no idea how Thai families work. Farangs come somewhere below the soi dogs in status.

If you think you are going to be "in charge" of anything, you are in for a very large shock of reality.

Laying down the law on land splitting .

In Thai culture, it is the daughter's responsibility to take care of the parents. Boys get to be lazy sods and live off other people which is why they want daughter to marry rich farang ATM.

Regardless of your "smarts", no one in the village will take any notice of you telling them what to do. Only they know anything- farangs only useful for money.

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 1:59 PM, morrobay said:

Required since that major drain pipe project at soi6 failed. As well as the massive drain pipe above Walking St. Now there is a major concrete area collapse in area between large portable green pump and pump house. The water there is black. About only thing to show for that project is that sorry construction trailer trash mess.

I think you are saying the "new" walkway has collapsed ( again ). Oh my, where are the usual posters that claim it was such a great project? 

There are really big drains under Beach Rd, but I bet they've filled with sand and garbage, plus when they widened Beach Rd I doubt they bothered to connect the road side drains to the big pipes.

On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 12:36 AM, Henrik Andersen said:

Meaby that's is the weather is going more and more crazy for every year the world change of pollution in every country not only Thailand but all the world because we don't have taken action and changed our way to live in Europe we get more bad weather too America get it  Asian get more storm's and raining this world going to change if we not do anything but we are to late for change it over 100 year's we know it but just ignore it 

I can only say this good luck to this lifestyle we have now 

It will not last forever 

LOL. Thailand has had monsoon rains as long as it has had people. The reason for flooding is unregulated and unplanned development without installing proper drainage systems, for the usual reason.

On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 8:36 PM, Expatthailover said:

Another of these threads where some  ( not all ) bemoan the fact that flooding occurs in a developing country..wow what a surprise.

They sob and stamp their feet etc and ask why is it allowed despite everyone knowing the money isnt there for the infrastructure we are accustomed to in 'good old back home'.

 

Thailand hasn't been a "developing" country for decades.

There is plenty of money and they are fully capable of building things properly. The reason that things don't get built properly or maintained, is well known, but definitely not a question of "development".

If not for the known problem, Thailand could have the infrastructure of Singapore.

On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 1:45 PM, billd766 said:

 

My wife does and has done for many years. Just the same as my former wife in the UK had access.

 

It is called trust in a married relationship.

 

IMHO if you don't trust your wife then why did you marry her in the first place?

 

 

I married mine for sex and companionship.

Why did you marry yours?

8 hours ago, soalbundy said:

SPECK in a different language ? Some of the tourist police speak excellent English but not many and even they have trouble understanding drunks, we had two women translators in the office but that wasn't enough and you need people on the street to defuse situations so that arrests aren't necessary. Thais in general have poor language skills, a Thai with a good command of English won't work for nothing, those few Thais that we did have were students.

 

As for checking driving licenses etc that isn't the job of the tourist police or the criminal police, the highway police are responsible for that and I don't believe that they have volunteers so they were operating outside their remit and should be reported, there are always some who let it go their heads and should (and would be) thrown out, similarly there are some who think that the laws of their own country apply here, I once experienced an American volunteer who stood up for the rights of a farang being handed over to the criminal police so vehemently that he got himself arrested. Volunteers do a lot of work for the tourist police and it's free so sometimes the boss may try and overstep the mark by asking us to go into certain bars and act as informers on seen or heard drug deals, that was always refused. 

You seem to know a lot about it, so please explain why ONLY on W S and not other bar areas of Pattaya? What makes W S so special?

8 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Actually they do, it's all a matter of language problems, the volunteers were comprised of many nationalities, even Thais who could speak several languages, the idea was to defuse situations by talking, a drunk from Birmingham or a semi literate cockney is hard enough for an Englishman to understand let alone a tourist policeman with only a poor command of English. I have had to deal with drunk Germans who spoke no English, I have a Bavarian accent when I speak German and a giant Bavarian who was ready to pull the bar apart came over and hugged me when he heard me speak to him, end of the problem, the real police just looked on perplexed. The police admit themselves that they are out of their depth when dealing with farang, apart from the language problem there is a cultural one.  

I'd be more convinced of their need if they were in all areas of Pattaya and not just Walking Street. How come other areas don't need their presence, and don't even need a police presence?

If someone is causing a problem, they can call the cops like they do in every other area of Pattaya. There were never any cops of any description on W S for years after it opened, so why did it suddenly need them? I never saw any significant problems on it. 

My biggest complaint is that they don't do anything about the child exploitation that goes on openly. That is a crime, and it is ignored.

and to think I went to Jomptien 25 years ago to swim because Pattaya beach was notoriously filthy.

City hall won't do anything unless tourists stop coming, and the Chinese don't swim at Jomptien, far as I know.

23 hours ago, Unsane said:

The OP might just be looking for one to stop his car being nicked.  Who knows? 

If that's all, can do that with a length of chain wrapped around the steering wheel and brake pedal with a padlock. Back home I used a Krooklock, but I haven't seen any here, but may have somewhere in car stores.

9 hours ago, bartender100 said:

as i know two people personally that got ripped off by them.

As a long time Nana aficionado, you'd have to be very drunk or very naive to get ripped off in Nana.

12 hours ago, tropo said:

Although they are obviously human, they are far from "normal" humans and caution is advised when handling them. Treat them too nice and they'll have you for breakfast.

#99 in a certain downstairs Nana gogo can have me for breakfast any day, but I think she's a coyote as she showed no interest in going with any guy in the bar.

18 hours ago, Unsane said:

Not sure what you experienced that the rest of us haven't?

If you've never experienced it to know, I feel sorry for you.

However, I'm not going into specifics as it's not allowed on this forum.

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

I know many of them in real life, away from the bars and I have little desire to talk to them in the day time, let alone going out for a drink with them .

LOL. I knew that was a post by you without having looked at the username! 

I'm sure you realise that most of us don't know or live with loads of hookers, and we actually enjoy having a nice looking young lady sitting and pretending to enjoy our company once in a while.

Back in the day, I never had to buy a drink to get a girl to sit with me, and I'd just give them 20 baht when I left, as that was what they got from a lady drink. I never stayed longer than one drink in any bar except Hollywood Royale, and I always had a permanent ( for the length of my holiday ) GF there so I didn't have to buy her any drinks at all.

On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 10:36 AM, poanoi said:

for the same money, would you rather shag a 30 yo stunner or a coffin dodger,

or would you be indifferent ?

they make good money on shagging coffin dodgers too,

but to keep their sanity they have the wits to shag a younger performer once in a while,

and are willing to pay for it, so as to not get permanently turned off

One has to understand that for a pro, having a guy shag her is like going to the toilet. It's something that one does because one has to, but is not normally pleasurable. If a pro can't do that she shouldn't be in that occupation.

Being able to fake an orgasm is a plus if wanting repeat episodes with the same guy.

Personally, I'd like #99 in a certain Nana gogo to pretend to enjoy sex with me, but, to be frank, I'd take any reasonable looking lady as long as she was pleasant looking.

Back to the girl's experience, they can just shut their eyes and think of the baht, as long as the guy isn't abusive. Just because a guy is elderly, it doesn't mean he can't be an agreeable companion for a few hours.

On ‎5‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 4:56 PM, Brunolem said:

Burma?

Not yet, but it's going to be the place if they can get the politics sorted.

Loads of great beaches to stay on in the south.

My best ever country was Singapore, but too expensive. Second best Antarctica, but need a job to live there and I'm too old.

Thailand is the cheese for me, regardless of any problems it may have- warm to hot, and cheap ( unless one wants to live like a rich farang ). 

3 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

so is her choice of you and/or her family's good treatment of you

 

No argument, but let's not forget that it is usually the farang paying for most things. I gave my ex a far better life than she could have expected on here own or with a Thai guy. Her ex Thai husband used her money to whore and drink.

It's not a marriage of financial equals in most cases, like it would be back home where both contribute half.

2 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

I did everything contrary to your advice many years ago and it couldnt have worked out better. "never" is something that should never be said

 

You wuz lucky. Many have not been.

My advice- exactly. It's only advice, and no one, let alone the OP is obligated to take any notice of it.

However, had someone given me such advice before I married, I'd be happier and richer than I am now. I'd still have married her, but not moved to the village, and stayed in Pattaya ( they live in the north ). Even if we had still got divorced, I'd have protected my money better and not bought as many things that have ended up with the in laws.

5 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not really relevant. A dowry is no longer part of most western marriage culture, while in different ways, it is still very much part of some Asian marriage cultures.

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That only holds true if both parties are Thai. If one is planning to take the beloved back to one's own country to live, why should one not use one's own culture and demand the bride's parents pay for the wedding?

Even if living in LOS, it's not the farang's culture, and he is under no obligation to abide by culture that is not covered by law. Ie, one can't disrespect religion in LOS as that is covered by law, but there is nothing to make me sit on the floor to eat or take my shoes off at the door of my own house. Sin sod is not mandated by law, so is optional.

OP is probably more confused now than before he asked the question.

My number one rule in LOS has always been to never spend more than I could afford.

If the OP can afford to give it away, do whatever makes him happy. The marriage will either work out or it won't, whatever he does about sin sod. It's no guarantee, and there is no refund for false advertising or defective goods.

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

A house for her parents would be appropriate if not married before. If married before 100k will be OK. Depends on your love ?

Would you build a house for a woman's parents in your own country?

What are they living in already? Why is it not good enough?

There is never a case for sin sod if she was married before. They have already been paid once for her- that's enough. I just gave some for MIL's face and got it back after.

Looking back, best thing I did in my marriage was NOT building her a house, as impossible to take that with one after divorce, and they might have called the police if I tried to bulldoze it.